1 00:00:00,089 --> 00:00:05,580 would somebody from the joseph priestley district who is prepared to make the 2 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:09,560 next motion come to the procedural mic please 3 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:32,740 I recognize the delegate at the pro mic 4 00:00:33,879 --> 00:00:41,809 I'm Dennis wellnitz a representative of delegate from the Unitarian Universalist 5 00:00:41,809 --> 00:00:45,800 congregation of Rockville I am also president of the joseph priestley 6 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:53,809 district the joseph priestley district organized 27 congregations to petition 7 00:00:53,809 --> 00:01:02,059 to have this proposed amendment put on the agenda for this General Assembly do 8 00:01:02,059 --> 00:01:11,290 I need to say anything more should I read it yeah go for reading it okay 9 00:01:11,290 --> 00:01:19,130 section six point one six congregational linkage this will be a new sections the 10 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:25,820 board of trustees shall establish and maintain means by which congregations 11 00:01:25,820 --> 00:01:31,700 may communicate directly with the board concerning governance of the Association 12 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:36,890 and receive from the board timely responses to such communications the 13 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:42,800 means established by the board shall be distributed to the congregation's do I 14 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:52,000 have a second during a second we now have a motion on the floor thank you 15 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:59,060 just to note that there was an incorporated amendment to amendment two 16 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:03,049 you can find it either on the app or on when these people that you may have got 17 00:02:03,049 --> 00:02:08,119 picked up when he got in incorporated amendment changes it checks to word Amy 18 00:02:08,119 --> 00:02:13,670 aide in front of means to allow for the possibility of plural means so that was 19 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:17,870 the only amendment offered at the mini-assembly so now is the time we want 20 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:21,319 you to form a small group with folks around you and try to include some folks 21 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:26,330 you might not already know take three minutes to discuss this amendment what 22 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:30,050 sort of linkage would you like to see from the UUA board and how does this 23 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:34,930 amendment move us toward that three minutes 24 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:27,680 yeah 25 00:05:37,419 --> 00:05:45,639 invite you to come back together as a community as we move into discussion I 26 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:53,750 recognize the delegate at the pro mic hello I am Dennis wellnitz of the uu 27 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:58,790 congregation of Rockville in Rockville Maryland and also the president the 28 00:05:58,790 --> 00:06:09,320 joseph priestley district board of directors policy governance requires 29 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,950 that there be governance linkage between the constituents and the Board of 30 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:22,310 Trustees of an organization and that needs to be a formal linkage formal 31 00:06:22,310 --> 00:06:27,889 governance linkage what we are asking is that the Board of Trustees follow its 32 00:06:27,889 --> 00:06:34,400 own requirements of policy governance and establish preferably multiple means 33 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:40,930 by which congregations can communicate directly with the Board of Trustees and 34 00:06:40,930 --> 00:06:48,919 get timely responses this is important because getting together 15 35 00:06:48,919 --> 00:06:56,620 congregations to petition the board of trustees cost us two years of effort and 36 00:06:56,620 --> 00:07:02,720 thousands of dollars of and many many many thousands of hours of organizing 37 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:09,620 time that shouldn't be necessary we should be at seeing the UUA Board of 38 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:16,190 Trustees as friendly as our districts were and as close and personable and 39 00:07:16,190 --> 00:07:24,470 lovable so please be loveable thank you very much thank you recognize the 40 00:07:24,470 --> 00:07:30,110 delegate at the procedural mic thank you James Snell First Unitarian Church of 41 00:07:30,110 --> 00:07:36,560 Dallas plenty of information and I could be ignorant but I was on the board of 42 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,060 trustees for three years and the question that my delegation has is there 43 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:45,410 an obstacle now for congregations communicating directly 44 00:07:45,410 --> 00:07:51,770 with the Board of Trustees so our sense is that if this bylaw passes this would 45 00:07:51,770 --> 00:07:58,610 further clarify and and and make intentional the intention to have 46 00:07:58,610 --> 00:08:03,110 linkage and communication with the board there certainly are available mechanisms 47 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:06,920 now that allow both individuals and congregations to commute with 48 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,200 communicate with the Board of Trustees this would deepen codify and maybe 49 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,630 expand those existing mechanisms thank you 50 00:08:16,630 --> 00:08:21,100 recognize the speaker at the con mic I 51 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:38,210 want to say that this is a very good idea and a very bad bylaw this is how 52 00:08:38,210 --> 00:08:44,900 bylaws go wrong it's a one time directive it's a good resolution to ask 53 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:49,730 the board to do this but to put this in the bylaws for something that is done 54 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:56,480 once and done is simply misguided this is not the sort of thing you put in 55 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:04,970 bylaws bylaws are for continuing conditions not for one-time actions you 56 00:09:04,970 --> 00:09:09,380 recognize the speaker the delegate at the procedural mic Thank You Carl pond 57 00:09:09,380 --> 00:09:12,770 Onan from the Unitarian Universalist Church of Greater Lansing in Lansing 58 00:09:12,770 --> 00:09:17,150 Michigan just on a point of procedure sorry a point of information 59 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:23,240 I apologize point of information as the board taken a position in for or against 60 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,610 this proposed amendment thank you for that question 61 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:32,240 we have not taken a position for or against this amendment we're allowing 62 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:40,300 the assembled delegates to decide that recognize the delegate at the pro mic 63 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:47,300 I'm Jim Turner from Salt Lake City I had the privilege of serving as a district 64 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:51,170 president for the mountain desert district I want 65 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:56,550 and unfortunately I was unable to attend in Charlotte when we made two major 66 00:09:56,550 --> 00:10:01,260 revisions to the size of the board and the manner in which the board was 67 00:10:01,260 --> 00:10:07,860 elected I had the privilege last night of having dinner with my former board 68 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:14,850 member from the mountain desert district Luke Finney and I had a lot of problems 69 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:21,290 with changing the election of the board to make it at large 70 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:28,500 downsizing I thought was a good idea but what we don't have is the formalized 71 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:34,020 connection it seems like so much of what we've done over these last few years has 72 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:37,470 moved the congregation's further and further from the National Association 73 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:44,370 and I feel like this it's not a one-time thing it's a mandate in the bylaws that 74 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:48,630 we establish some procedure whereby there is a continuing communication from 75 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:55,080 congregations to their two board members that affords a two-way flow of 76 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,589 information it's not to bother the board members with some menial little ongoing 77 00:11:00,589 --> 00:11:05,370 well sometimes it doesn't seem menial but some of the operational issues that 78 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:11,370 we encounter but rather it affords the opportunity to exchange information to 79 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:15,720 get feedback from the congregations as the Board considers this or that you 80 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:22,320 know as a result I'm very much in favor of this and I applaud the fact that it 81 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,660 was constructed in a manner that does not dictate the mechanism and leaves to 82 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:33,000 the board the opportunity to do that at the same time the board can't ignore be 83 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,650 imperative it'll be done thank you we recognize the delegate at 84 00:11:37,650 --> 00:11:45,360 that do we have a delegate at the procedural mic you do now hi Diane 85 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,210 Daniels Unitarian Universalist Church of Norwich question the procedural mic is 86 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:58,760 not on I'm not usually accused of being too quiet 87 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:05,370 Diane Daniels Unitarian Universalist Church of Norwich question regarding 88 00:12:05,370 --> 00:12:12,810 this item has there been a cost estimate for changing the linkage and or adding 89 00:12:12,810 --> 00:12:17,700 linkage to make this happen to the best of my knowledge there has not been a 90 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:21,870 cost estimate because then if the bylaw passes the means by which it would be 91 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:25,770 implemented are yet to be determined and it would be dependent upon the means 92 00:12:25,770 --> 00:12:36,180 thank you recognize the delegate at the con mic good afternoon I'm Barbara de 93 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:41,640 Leo from Rochester New York First Unitarian Church I want to speak against 94 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,950 this amendment I mean this yea bylaw change I'm an agreement with the 95 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:54,570 previous con speaker this is not a bylaw issue linkage is part of the John Carver 96 00:12:54,570 --> 00:12:59,370 policy governance model it is how the board it should be in your board 97 00:12:59,370 --> 00:13:06,300 policies of how the board operates it is not a bylaw issue bylaws are how the 98 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:14,280 organization is run the governance model for the board is how the board is run so 99 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,530 this would be a place to put a per policy in place that the board will 100 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:24,870 respond to concerns from various congregations or however that gets 101 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:30,510 worked through but it does not belong in the bylaws thank you thank you we're 102 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:33,810 going to go to our off-site delegates and invite the off-site delegate at the 103 00:13:33,810 --> 00:13:46,470 pro mic to speak I'm speaking for Michelle Collins you I'm speaking for 104 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:49,190 Michelle Collins 105 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:59,710 I'm speaking for Michelle Collins you use of southern Delaware lose Delaware 106 00:13:59,710 --> 00:14:04,610 hello I am Reverend Michelle Collins from the UUs of southern Delaware 107 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:08,180 and lose Delaware pronounced Lewis I'm sorry 108 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:13,310 under policy governance as implemented in the uua staff is not involved in 109 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:17,690 governance issues governance responsibilities is shared between the 110 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:23,600 congregation's and the UUA Board this responsibility depends on intentional 111 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,910 communication and connection between them this bylaw has changed supports 112 00:14:28,910 --> 00:14:33,760 that shared responsibility and accountability for it and ensures that 113 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:39,320 congregations know how to communicate with the UUA board on governance manners 114 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,260 please vote for this change thank you we go to the off-site delegate at the con 115 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:50,150 mic this is from Joseph Parker from the uu Church of the South Hills in 116 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:54,650 Pittsburgh Pennsylvania the language quote means established by the board 117 00:14:54,650 --> 00:14:58,730 end quote seems like a hierarchical approach congregations need to be 118 00:14:58,730 --> 00:15:04,370 involved in the means approach and process thank you we go to the delegate 119 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:11,870 at the pro mic this is Paul Pinson from the First Unitarian Church of Wilmington 120 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:17,560 Delaware also a member of the joseph priestley district board our 121 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:23,120 congregations take seriously the wrote their role in the governance of the 122 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Association since it is an association of congregations and when they voted to 123 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:36,050 become part of the Central East region and allow us to dissolve the board they 124 00:15:36,050 --> 00:15:41,840 put a restriction on that they said we could only dissolve our board when all 125 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:47,180 the duties that the board performed had been successfully handed off to other 126 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:53,810 entities the one remaining issue is governance linkage which the district 127 00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:58,120 boards used to provide to the congregations and have in the past 128 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,950 exercised they are also acting in response 129 00:16:03,950 --> 00:16:09,260 concerns they heard from another region that after the dissolution of their 130 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:13,490 boards it became more difficult to communicate with the board we also 131 00:16:13,490 --> 00:16:19,670 understand that the board realizes that it had become more difficult and for 132 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:24,320 that reason we've been encouraged to go ahead with this bylaws change the change 133 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,400 was also written with the involvement of the UUA 134 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:34,490 legal staff so that it represents the appropriate formation so we would like 135 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:41,510 to see this bylaws change implemented so that we can be assured of proper 136 00:16:41,510 --> 00:16:49,010 governance linkage and go ahead with our complete absorption into the Central 137 00:16:49,010 --> 00:16:55,400 East region please vote for this this communication is essential thank you 138 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,770 thank you do we have a delegate at the procedural mic no recognize the delegate 139 00:17:00,770 --> 00:17:05,990 at the con mic hi I'm the Reverend Jennifer Nordstrom I serve as the senior 140 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:10,339 minister of the First Unitarian society of Milwaukee and I agree with my 141 00:17:10,339 --> 00:17:16,400 previous two con mic speakers that linkage is essential communication is 142 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:22,010 essential in policy governance but this is not a bylaws issue it should be 143 00:17:22,010 --> 00:17:27,140 designed by the board and we should continue to communicate effectively with 144 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:32,060 the board and if you're feeling concerned about your ability to 145 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:37,370 communicate with the board perhaps you should do so but not put it in the 146 00:17:37,370 --> 00:17:39,910 bylaws 147 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:45,970 thank you do we have a delegate at the procedural mic we do I'm Eric they'll be 148 00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:54,790 University Unitarian churches in Seattle I moved to call the question thank you 149 00:17:55,210 --> 00:18:00,760 okay this is that's not a debatable motion it requires a two-thirds majority 150 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:07,090 open voting for our off-site delegates on this motion as well and invite us to 151 00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:12,700 get ready to vote so if you're in favor of this motion 152 00:18:12,930 --> 00:18:17,840 what the call the question if you're in favor of the motion to call to question 153 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,730 we invite you to raise your voting cards 154 00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:35,330 think you can put your cards down if you would like to vote against the motion to 155 00:18:35,330 --> 00:18:44,179 call the question please raise your cards thank you and do we have any tally 156 00:18:44,179 --> 00:18:48,770 of votes on me from the off-site delegates on this motion the motion 157 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:53,690 clearly passes with that we're going to move immediately to a vote on this 158 00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:59,960 proposal the amendment it require the bylaw the amendment to the bylaws it 159 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:05,090 requires a two-thirds majority affirmative vote we're going to invite 160 00:19:05,090 --> 00:19:11,020 you to raise your vote and we will open voting for our off-site delegates please 161 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:16,760 if you're in favor of this amendment to our bylaws I invite you to raise your 162 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,809 voting cards please 163 00:19:39,010 --> 00:19:42,820 thank you please lower your cards if you're against this amendment to our 164 00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:45,990 bylaws please raise your cards 165 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,920 could we get the tally thank you please lower your cards could we get the tally 166 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,060 on the off-site votes please 167 00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:44,730 okay it's too close to do a visual sighting on that we're gonna invite the 168 00:20:44,730 --> 00:20:51,870 tellers to assist us in the counting of this vote so we're gonna vote again if 169 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:56,250 you take a moment to please rate we're gonna invite you to raise your cards 170 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:59,850 again if you're in favor of this amendment to our bylaws and we're gonna 171 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:08,460 raise keep your cards raised as our tellers do the count and we'll need a 172 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:12,890 physical count of the off-site delegates please 173 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,310 please keep your cards raised high until they're counted 174 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,660 just so people understand we have to move the other to bylaw so tomorrow 175 00:22:55,660 --> 00:23:00,540 because we have to do synergy tonight 176 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:20,880 not yet are the ushers still counting 177 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:28,950 I see the ushers may still be counting a few votes could I get confirmation 178 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:39,080 please that the ushers have counted all votes we still counting 179 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,030 okay it appears that the ushers have completed the the pro vote count I'm 180 00:23:46,030 --> 00:23:50,770 going to invite you now to please raise your cards if you're voting against this 181 00:23:50,770 --> 00:23:56,040 bylaw amendment and the ushers will take that count 182 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,390 please keep your cards up until our ushers have completed their vote vote 183 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:50,630 count 184 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:42,599 while our incredible tellers are counting your cards I just want to make 185 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:46,559 an announcement that we will do the two bylaws that we had planned on doing 186 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:53,070 tonight right after the opening of tomorrow morning's session and we do 187 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:56,879 this so that we can have enough time with our youth can have enough time to 188 00:25:56,879 --> 00:26:01,529 reset and center in order to give us the incredible worship that we know they 189 00:26:01,529 --> 00:26:12,779 will be offering us as we celebrate our youth bridging for those of you that got 190 00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:17,429 handouts about those two amendments are those two pieces of business please hold 191 00:26:17,429 --> 00:26:23,069 on to them for tomorrow so that we don't need to reprint it any for then oh sure 192 00:26:23,069 --> 00:26:26,149 ask the hard questions 193 00:26:30,979 --> 00:26:35,590 so so the opening session the general session tomorrow begins at 9:00 a.m. 194 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:46,309 assuming we start on time nine 10 ish in standard uu time Thank You barb it 195 00:26:46,309 --> 00:26:52,700 appears our ushers are almost done counting the those opposed I've asked 196 00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:56,749 for again for our help of our Usher's and taking a vote of abstentions if 197 00:26:56,749 --> 00:27:01,059 you're abstaining on this vote please raise your cards 198 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:11,830 I'd invite our Usher's to please take the count on the abstentions 199 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:30,249 and as soon as our Usher's have completed this vote count if they could 200 00:27:30,249 --> 00:27:34,409 bring the results forward then we'll announce them 201 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:47,030 uh sure is do we have a vote count 202 00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:33,409 okay we're still waiting on the root count results from our Usher's but we 203 00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:37,970 have a delegate at the procedural mic that I recognize my name is Annie Scott 204 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:43,100 I'm the religious educator at Jefferson Unitarian Church in Golden Colorado and 205 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:48,350 I'm the president of LREDA liberal religious educators Association and I 206 00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:54,710 just simply want to point out that it's religious educators and youth who have 207 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:59,840 come at the bottom of the line that now get bumped I understand of course we 208 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,360 want the youths energy service to be to be held to have its place of honor but I 209 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,210 just wanted to point out again that we're at the bottom of the line and get 210 00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:15,529 bumped some of our religious educators cannot stay an extra night we'll be 211 00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:20,049 leaving before they get to vote thank you 212 00:30:27,730 --> 00:30:34,550 so I want to say I hear all of what you said and legally we had to do the order 213 00:30:34,550 --> 00:30:41,210 we had to put the first ones first because you have to do those two first 214 00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:45,890 the ones that are motions coming from congregations they have to go in the 215 00:30:45,890 --> 00:30:49,460 order and the other one had to go first because so I just wanted people to know 216 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:51,380 we weren't trying to put them at the bottom of the heap 217 00:30:51,380 --> 00:31:01,130 we have four more tomorrow and so that's so that's why they're there the ushers 218 00:31:01,130 --> 00:31:05,710 are not coming forward the vote will have results for you in just a moment 219 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,670 in the interest of moving us along as they're conferring I'm just gonna do the 220 00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:37,800 announcements now how about that all right as you prepare to leave please 221 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,170 look around you and collect all your belongings and also do the asurs a big 222 00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:47,460 favor and pick up any trash doesn't have to be your own trash can be just any 223 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:53,280 trash take that on with you it's really gonna help the ushers out and please 224 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,330 take a look at lost and found they're getting a lovely collection of water 225 00:31:57,330 --> 00:32:04,710 bottles that they would love to return to owners that's in 22:04 we're almost 226 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:07,670 there folks 227 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,299 okay we had to do a little bit of math there but we have here the results 228 00:32:55,299 --> 00:33:01,460 including our off-site delegates we had total in favor of that amendment 617 229 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:11,840 votes opposed 462 eps total of 33 abstentions that four vote is a amounts 230 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:19,610 to a 57.2% it does not meet that two-thirds required in order to pass the 231 00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:24,440 amendment the proposed amendment fails thank you for your participation in that 232 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,429 vote in your patience as well