1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,330 2 00:00:02,330 --> 00:00:05,580 Pat Kahn: --program. 3 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:07,810 And my name is Pat Kahn. 4 00:00:07,810 --> 00:00:09,350 I'm in the Phase Development Office. 5 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:14,290 And I am going to be co-hosting, along with Alicia LeBlanc, 6 00:00:14,290 --> 00:00:16,830 who will say hello to you in a second when 7 00:00:16,830 --> 00:00:18,300 she goes through housekeeping. 8 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:21,270 And our presenter tonight is my colleague 9 00:00:21,270 --> 00:00:23,800 in the Faith Development Office, Gail Forsyth-Vail. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,780 Gail, if you'll say hello, Gail. 11 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:28,430 There you go. 12 00:00:28,430 --> 00:00:30,250 So I'm going to turn this over now 13 00:00:30,250 --> 00:00:31,950 to Alicia who will go through some 14 00:00:31,950 --> 00:00:34,640 of the housekeeping slides. 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Alicia Leblanc: Thank you, Pat. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,690 My name is Alicia LeBlanc. 17 00:00:43,690 --> 00:00:47,200 I am the administrative and editorial assistant 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,000 in the Faith Development Office. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,860 Before we begin, please mute your mic. 20 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:55,880 You should see a little microphone 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,540 next to your name or phone number, and if you click it, 22 00:01:01,540 --> 00:01:05,850 you will mute yourself and unmute yourself. 23 00:01:05,850 --> 00:01:08,510 And nobody has their camera on, but if it accidentally 24 00:01:08,510 --> 00:01:11,250 does turn on during the presentation, 25 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:17,460 you just hit the little camera icon, and it will switch off. 26 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:20,880 If you have an audio problem, you'll log out of FUZE 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,930 and call in by phone, but that is listen only. 28 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:27,260 And the recorded webinar and slides 29 00:01:27,260 --> 00:01:29,330 will be available at the link provided, 30 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:36,770 and that link will also be posted into the meeting chat. 31 00:01:36,770 --> 00:01:39,630 All attendees will be muted during the presentation. 32 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:42,100 [INAUDIBLE] 33 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:46,370 You will see a mute button next to your name or phone number, 34 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:51,700 and you can hit star six on your phone to mute yourself. 35 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:54,820 If you have a question, you can raise your red flag. 36 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:59,520 You should see a red flag on the top of the Meeting Chat box. 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,300 And we can practice that, if you'd like. 38 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:12,640 Please hit the red flag to raise it. 39 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,340 Great. 40 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:22,350 And then if you click it again, you'll bring the flag down. 41 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:24,170 Awesome. 42 00:02:24,170 --> 00:02:31,640 You can also contribute using the Meeting Chat box. 43 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,490 If you have questions or comments, 44 00:02:33,490 --> 00:02:35,270 you can post them in the Meeting Chat box 45 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:38,595 during the presentation, and you can watch the Meeting Chat 46 00:02:38,595 --> 00:02:40,850 box for links and information. 47 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:43,150 And the good thing about the Meeting Chat box 48 00:02:43,150 --> 00:02:46,460 is that you can cut and paste into your own Word 49 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:49,060 document on your computer. 50 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:54,140 And now I'm going to turn this over to Gail. 51 00:02:54,140 --> 00:02:55,550 Gail Forsyth-vail: OK. 52 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:57,110 I'm going to open with a reading that 53 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:59,920 comes from a marvelous book, new book. 54 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,100 Wait a minute, I never do this right. 55 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:05,260 It's Called Bless The Imperfect: Meditations 56 00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:06,780 for Congregational Leaders. 57 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:09,540 And the reading that I've chosen was 58 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:12,760 written by Dan Hotchkiss called "The Paradox of Organized 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,500 Religion." 60 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:19,660 Religion at its best is no friend of the status quo. 61 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:22,360 Religion transforms people. 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,490 No one touches holy ground and stays the same. 63 00:03:26,490 --> 00:03:28,820 Religious leaders stir the pot by pointing 64 00:03:28,820 --> 00:03:33,310 to the contrast between life as it is and life as it should be 65 00:03:33,310 --> 00:03:36,360 and urging us to close the gap. 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,390 Religious insights provide the hand 67 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:42,000 hold that people need to criticize injustice, rise 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,070 above self interest, and take risks to provide healing 69 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:47,840 to a wounded world. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Organization, on the other hand, conserves. 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,100 Institutions capture, schematize, 72 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:57,230 and codify persistent patterns of activity. 73 00:03:57,230 --> 00:03:59,360 People sometimes say institutions 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,120 are conservative and smile as if they had said something clever. 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,500 But conservation is what institutions do. 76 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:11,200 A well-ordered congregation lays down schedules, puts policies 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 on paper, places people in positions, 78 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,700 and generally brings order out of chaos. 79 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:20,950 Organizations can be flexible, creative, and iconoclastic, 80 00:04:20,950 --> 00:04:25,790 but only by resisting some of their most basic instincts. 81 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:28,650 No wonder organized religion is so difficult. 82 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:30,610 Congregations create sanctuaries where 83 00:04:30,610 --> 00:04:33,860 people can nurture and inspire each other with results 84 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:35,860 no one can predict. 85 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:38,020 The stability of a religious institution 86 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:42,470 is necessary for the instability that religious transformation 87 00:04:42,470 --> 00:04:43,720 brings. 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,600 The need to balance both sides of this paradox, 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,460 the transforming power of religion 90 00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:51,490 and the stabilizing power of organization, 91 00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:56,480 makes leading congregations a unique challenge. 92 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 So we're going to actually talk about that, 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,130 both the transforming power of religion 94 00:05:02,130 --> 00:05:04,510 and the stabilizing power of organization 95 00:05:04,510 --> 00:05:09,810 when it comes to adult faith development programs. 96 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:10,830 Welcome. 97 00:05:10,830 --> 00:05:14,430 Glad you're here. 98 00:05:14,430 --> 00:05:18,280 So if you are looking to-- I'll tell you what. 99 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,890 If you recognize yourself in any of these statements 100 00:05:20,890 --> 00:05:23,800 as I read them, raise your flag. 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,450 If you are looking to better organize and support 102 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:30,090 adult programming in your congregation; if you 103 00:05:30,090 --> 00:05:33,662 are looking to update adult program offerings; 104 00:05:33,662 --> 00:05:35,120 if you're looking to figure out how 105 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,530 to connect adult programming with manage mission 106 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:41,840 and ministry; if you're looking to better serve 107 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,550 adults of all ages and life stages; 108 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,700 if you're looking to start a new program, 109 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:50,800 or to restart or energize your adult programs, 110 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,100 this webinar is for you. 111 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:59,690 And it looks like I've pretty much hit everyone here, or most 112 00:05:59,690 --> 00:06:00,302 everyone here. 113 00:06:00,302 --> 00:06:01,260 So that's a good thing. 114 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:02,420 You're in the right place. 115 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:04,900 Welcome. 116 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:13,410 And you can put your flags down whenever you get a chance. 117 00:06:13,410 --> 00:06:16,290 Just pause for a minute and have you 118 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:23,720 think about what you call your adult programming. 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,350 What name do you give it? 120 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:30,810 Maybe Adult RE? 121 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:34,180 Adult Spirituality? 122 00:06:34,180 --> 00:06:37,330 Adult Learning? 123 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:40,560 Adult Programs? 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,090 Lifelong Learning? 125 00:06:43,090 --> 00:06:45,690 Something Else? 126 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:47,640 No particular name? 127 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,380 And we heard some really creative ones 128 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:53,060 in yesterday's webinar. 129 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:56,950 But just think for a minute about what 130 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:04,920 your name says about who's included in the programming. 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,940 Who's welcome in the programming? 132 00:07:06,940 --> 00:07:09,800 Who is it designed for? 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,010 What kind of formats would people be led to expect? 134 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:17,710 And what kind of content? 135 00:07:17,710 --> 00:07:20,350 Does your name match your expectations? 136 00:07:20,350 --> 00:07:22,830 And I just want to leave that question out 137 00:07:22,830 --> 00:07:25,640 there for right now. 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,100 Just let it perc. 139 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:33,530 Put it in your back burner. 140 00:07:33,530 --> 00:07:37,650 And I also want to put on the table 141 00:07:37,650 --> 00:07:40,190 the idea of the fact that there are 142 00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:42,400 lots of different models for adult programming 143 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,990 responsibilities. 144 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:48,670 And I know that we have a variety of people here, so some 145 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:52,810 of the models that congregations use for adult programming 146 00:07:52,810 --> 00:07:55,830 responsibilities are that the minister is responsible, 147 00:07:55,830 --> 00:07:58,360 or the religious educator is responsible, 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,660 or the ministerial intern is responsible, 149 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:02,830 or another paid staff member. 150 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:05,220 Or sometimes an individual volunteer 151 00:08:05,220 --> 00:08:07,520 oversees the entire program. 152 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Or sometimes individual volunteers 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,230 take charge of particular offerings 154 00:08:11,230 --> 00:08:14,010 without an overall coordinator. 155 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:16,760 Sometimes there's a volunteer committee, maybe as 156 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,810 part of the responsibility of the Lifespan RE Committee. 157 00:08:19,810 --> 00:08:22,620 Or there's a separate Adult RE Committee. 158 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:25,810 Or some combination of all of those. 159 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:30,094 So I think, perhaps, you can find yourself somewhere there. 160 00:08:30,094 --> 00:08:32,010 And perhaps you're in a situation where you're 161 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:35,289 wondering whether the configuration that you're using 162 00:08:35,289 --> 00:08:38,049 is the right configuration, or maybe you've 163 00:08:38,049 --> 00:08:40,441 just decided to use something different than what 164 00:08:40,441 --> 00:08:41,690 you've been using in the past. 165 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:43,530 I just want you know there's lots 166 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:45,180 of different possibilities, and you're 167 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:48,645 all-- I hope that all of you will get something out 168 00:08:48,645 --> 00:08:53,540 of tonight. 169 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:57,720 So no matter where you are, what configuration 170 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,940 you're using, what your name is, what 171 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:03,910 your issue, your immediate presenting issue is right now, 172 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:06,560 you're very next best step is the same. 173 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:11,190 Your next best step, no matter what changes you want to make, 174 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:14,880 is to gather some wise people-- about five to seven 175 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,700 is a good number-- to think about the congregation's 176 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:20,780 mission and the needs of both the community within 177 00:09:20,780 --> 00:09:24,060 and the broader community beyond your congregation. 178 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:28,800 You want to gather people that can really 179 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,830 hold the whole congregation in their hearts and in their minds 180 00:09:32,830 --> 00:09:36,570 and think about what kinds of-- and envision 181 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:39,800 what kinds of adult programming fit with your congregation. 182 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,890 You need religious leaders. 183 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:45,370 You need people that you can trust. 184 00:09:45,370 --> 00:09:47,650 Hopefully they represent a cross section 185 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:50,460 of people in the congregation, different kinds of people 186 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:52,090 in the congregation. 187 00:09:52,090 --> 00:09:54,800 But you don't want a representative group 188 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,790 in the sense that Person A represents the social action 189 00:09:57,790 --> 00:10:00,150 committee, and Person B represents the elders, 190 00:10:00,150 --> 00:10:02,420 and Person C represents the young adults. 191 00:10:02,420 --> 00:10:03,440 You don't want that. 192 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 You want a group of wise people who really can 193 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,234 hold the whole congregation. 194 00:10:08,234 --> 00:10:09,900 You're going to want to take that group, 195 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:13,760 and you want to clarify their responsibility and authority 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,850 in the context of your congregation structures 197 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:16,500 and systems. 198 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:20,120 So if you are-- it depends on your congregation, 199 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,890 whether it would be the governing board, or the parish 200 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:26,720 council, or the executive team, or the minister, 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,230 or whoever it is who can grant authority to this group 202 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:34,810 to really think deeply about what the next best step is 203 00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:37,150 for adult faith development programming 204 00:10:37,150 --> 00:10:38,920 in your congregation. 205 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,420 And you are going to invite them to think deeply 206 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:43,770 and to consider some important questions. 207 00:10:43,770 --> 00:10:45,890 And so we're going to start talking about some 208 00:10:45,890 --> 00:10:48,910 of the questions that this little group, which you can 209 00:10:48,910 --> 00:10:51,580 call your brain trust, or your wise people, 210 00:10:51,580 --> 00:10:53,850 or you can think of another clever name. 211 00:10:53,850 --> 00:11:00,440 But they've got some important questions to consider. 212 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,580 And here's the first one. 213 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:07,040 Who are the adults in your congregation? 214 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,050 Let's just do a little bit of brainstorm 215 00:11:09,050 --> 00:11:10,970 and use the chat box. 216 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:11,660 Who are they? 217 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:15,190 You probably have some parents, and you have some elders. 218 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:16,550 Who's in your congregation? 219 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:18,420 Let's just start using the chat box 220 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:20,310 to brainstorm what kinds of adults 221 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:22,700 there are in your congregation. 222 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,920 Are they working people, retired people? 223 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,790 Who's there? 224 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:37,580 Think about it. 225 00:11:37,580 --> 00:11:47,240 Okay, parents, elders. 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,390 Who else? 227 00:11:48,390 --> 00:11:53,170 Empty nesters. 228 00:11:53,170 --> 00:11:59,370 Young adults, perhaps. 229 00:11:59,370 --> 00:12:03,940 Scientists, artists, financial gurus, techies, 230 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:12,070 college students, sure. 231 00:12:12,070 --> 00:12:16,600 All kinds of different people. 232 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,607 I think you're wise group would really want to actually take 233 00:12:22,607 --> 00:12:24,940 the time to think about all of the different people that 234 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:27,330 are in your congregation, not just the ones that 235 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:29,260 are currently served by whatever programming 236 00:12:29,260 --> 00:12:33,290 you have, but actually who all is in your congregation. 237 00:12:33,290 --> 00:12:37,721 You have probably got four or five generations of adults 238 00:12:37,721 --> 00:12:38,220 alone. 239 00:12:38,220 --> 00:12:41,280 That's leaving aside children and youth. 240 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,860 You probably have four or five generations of adults 241 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:46,070 within your congregation representing 242 00:12:46,070 --> 00:12:49,990 all kinds of different life stages and so on. 243 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:54,200 So your retired people need to think about that, 244 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,940 begin to really bring the congregation into their minds. 245 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:00,820 And then you're wise people are going 246 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:02,740 to think about the characteristics 247 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,440 of adult learners. 248 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,850 And here are some on the characteristics 249 00:13:06,850 --> 00:13:09,840 of adult learners. 250 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,370 Adult learners come with experience. 251 00:13:12,370 --> 00:13:13,870 Children come with experience, too, 252 00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:16,490 but adult learners are absolutely-- 253 00:13:16,490 --> 00:13:20,330 expect their experience to be recognized. 254 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:24,220 They ask questions. 255 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:26,060 Some are skeptical and challenging, 256 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:29,980 others are goal oriented. 257 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:34,430 Adult learners will commit to learning that has 258 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:36,090 relevance in their lives. 259 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:38,920 That's a really key thing with adult learners. 260 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 The learnings, they are not interested in things 261 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,140 that are not immediately relevant 262 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:45,771 in some way in their lives. 263 00:13:45,771 --> 00:13:48,020 It might be just that they're curious about something, 264 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:51,710 but it has to be relevant to their lives. 265 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:53,350 They are voluntary learners who are 266 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:55,470 self-directed and highly motivated 267 00:13:55,470 --> 00:13:57,510 under the right conditions. 268 00:13:57,510 --> 00:13:58,990 Just talk to an adult who's decided 269 00:13:58,990 --> 00:14:01,460 to take up a musical instrument, highly 270 00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:04,640 motivated under the right conditions. 271 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,140 And they seek particular kinds of information 272 00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:10,310 and experiences to supplement what they already know. 273 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:12,680 They expect to be treated as though they're not 274 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,420 a blank slate, but actually people 275 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:19,700 with experiences and knowledge coming in. 276 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,290 In short, adults seek information and learning 277 00:14:22,290 --> 00:14:27,279 they can use to navigate their lives. 278 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:29,570 So I want to talk a little bit about faith development, 279 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:32,550 because faith development is a special kind of adult learning. 280 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:35,280 And this is another thing that you're 281 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,340 wise people will consider. 282 00:14:37,340 --> 00:14:39,050 It is a subset. 283 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:42,120 Faith development learning is a subset 284 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,180 of adult learning, which means the other things apply. 285 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:47,740 People come into a faith development experience, 286 00:14:47,740 --> 00:14:50,360 already they expect their experience honored. 287 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,450 They expect to find something that means something 288 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:55,720 in their lives that they can apply in their lives, 289 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,270 and so on. 290 00:14:57,270 --> 00:15:01,270 In addition, faith development experiences nurture you 291 00:15:01,270 --> 00:15:03,360 as a spiritual being. 292 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,570 They can help to sustain you through a challenging time. 293 00:15:06,570 --> 00:15:09,710 So a faith development experience 294 00:15:09,710 --> 00:15:12,680 might be, for example, a bereavement group 295 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,890 or a parenting group. 296 00:15:14,890 --> 00:15:17,230 They lead you to feel more at home in the universe, 297 00:15:17,230 --> 00:15:21,560 or more connected with all that is. 298 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,210 They help you identify a way that you 299 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:25,970 are called to bring more love and justice into the world, 300 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:28,410 perhaps through some social justice 301 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:31,390 project, or some other way. 302 00:15:31,390 --> 00:15:32,824 Faith development experiences help 303 00:15:32,824 --> 00:15:34,240 you to understand more deeply what 304 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,510 it means to be a Unitarian Universalist 305 00:15:36,510 --> 00:15:43,940 and to live a Unitarian Universalist life. 306 00:15:43,940 --> 00:15:47,130 So your wise people have done all this, 307 00:15:47,130 --> 00:15:48,870 and then they're probably considering 308 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:51,410 that they want to do a survey and find out what people 309 00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:54,860 want to have for programming. 310 00:15:54,860 --> 00:15:56,280 Please don't. 311 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,570 Not now, not right away. 312 00:15:58,570 --> 00:16:03,120 So what I'm saying is that although that 313 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,510 seems to be the first thing people want to do, 314 00:16:05,510 --> 00:16:08,640 I'm going to ask that you take your group of wise people 315 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,510 and slow down and do something else before you do that. 316 00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:14,520 You need to really think about another way 317 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,150 to assess program needs. 318 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:22,130 You need to activate your wise people and do an inventory. 319 00:16:22,130 --> 00:16:23,780 What you want to do is you really 320 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:27,120 want to look at what programs you're currently offering, 321 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,610 not forgetting things like small groups, support groups, maybe 322 00:16:30,610 --> 00:16:35,380 AA, Al-Anon, social action groups, forums, hiking groups, 323 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:37,790 lunch gatherings, and so on. 324 00:16:37,790 --> 00:16:40,250 Really do an inventory of the things 325 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:41,630 that you're already offering. 326 00:16:41,630 --> 00:16:43,800 Note what's doing well, what needs 327 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,460 are being met, which people-- you've 328 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,990 done that inventory of who your people are, 329 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:50,610 both within the congregation and beyond the congregation's 330 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:53,880 walls-- what needs are being met. 331 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,140 And I wanted to especially urge you to really linger 332 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:00,760 on this step long enough. 333 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,050 My experience in working with live groups of people 334 00:17:04,050 --> 00:17:07,339 is that people will come in and say, ugh, 335 00:17:07,339 --> 00:17:08,740 we don't offer anything. 336 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:11,310 Our adult programs are in shambles, and so on, and so 337 00:17:11,310 --> 00:17:13,579 forth, and then you ask them what they're currently 338 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:17,130 offering, and then they tell you about this fabulous thing 339 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:20,170 that's going on, whatever this fabulous thing is 340 00:17:20,170 --> 00:17:21,349 in the congregation. 341 00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:26,119 And all of a sudden, people start to feel more successful 342 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,030 and they have a place to build from. 343 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:30,310 So don't omit that step. 344 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:33,510 Really notice what's working and what needs are being met, 345 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:36,200 and an honor that. 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,160 Look at what needs some rethinking, 347 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,060 perhaps needs to take-- there are 348 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,600 certain things that we need to take a rest from or step back 349 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,690 from. 350 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:46,320 What gaps do you see? 351 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,190 Again, you're still working with your wise people. 352 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:51,990 What gaps did the wise people see in the programming, 353 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:57,730 having considered the people in your congregation? 354 00:17:57,730 --> 00:18:01,470 And then send them forth to talk with people, 355 00:18:01,470 --> 00:18:04,190 all different kinds of people. 356 00:18:04,190 --> 00:18:07,580 Your group of wise people will develop their lenses 357 00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:10,370 by looking at the congregation, and the community, 358 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:12,880 and the current programming, and then they're 359 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,220 going to ask people good questions and listen a lot. 360 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,160 Find out what people's hopes and dreams 361 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,810 are for their involvement in the congregation. 362 00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:24,600 What are the things that people are expressing a need for? 363 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:31,320 So, more information gathering, more data gathering. 364 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,030 And then, it's OK to do a survey. 365 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:37,390 Because by then, you have a really good sense 366 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:41,580 of what you need to ask. 367 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:43,760 A survey is a funny thing. 368 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,390 It can create winners and losers, which 369 00:18:47,390 --> 00:18:49,590 is what you don't want to do. 370 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:51,390 So for example, if a survey says, 371 00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:53,890 do you want to do programming on Wednesday night or Saturday 372 00:18:53,890 --> 00:18:54,670 morning? 373 00:18:54,670 --> 00:18:57,160 And 49% of your people say Wednesday night, 374 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,000 and 51% say Saturday morning, by offering Saturday morning, 375 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,680 you've honored the survey and you've 376 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,840 created 49% people who lost out, didn't get their opinion 377 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,320 or their point of view honored. 378 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,470 So be very, very careful with a survey. 379 00:19:13,470 --> 00:19:17,742 And my advice is to not get too specific, 380 00:19:17,742 --> 00:19:19,700 and I'll show you what I mean in just a minute. 381 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:23,120 Make sure you offer both paper forms and an online option. 382 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,440 Just a survey stuck into the order of service 383 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,690 misses people who aren't there on a particular Sunday. 384 00:19:27,690 --> 00:19:29,360 It misses people who are involved 385 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:34,340 in volunteering in the religious education program. 386 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:37,560 In may miss elders. 387 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,070 It can miss a lot of people, so offer both paper 388 00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:43,200 forms and an online option. 389 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,330 Perhaps the person who as infants and 390 00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:48,790 really can't deal with a survey in paper on Sunday morning 391 00:19:48,790 --> 00:19:51,440 would be happy to fill one out online later 392 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,430 on when baby is sleeping. 393 00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:59,170 So this is what I mean by a simple survey. 394 00:19:59,170 --> 00:20:01,310 This is the kind of survey which gives you 395 00:20:01,310 --> 00:20:03,160 a sense of where people's hearts are 396 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,580 and where their longings are and shows you 397 00:20:07,580 --> 00:20:13,677 where your gaps are without creating winners and losers. 398 00:20:13,677 --> 00:20:15,260 So instead of saying, would you rather 399 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:17,817 have the course in UU history or UU ethics? 400 00:20:17,817 --> 00:20:19,400 You would ask do you want to know more 401 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,870 about Unitarian Universalism? 402 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:23,930 And then you're wise people, or whoever 403 00:20:23,930 --> 00:20:27,080 has the responsibility for selecting content, 404 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,080 can actually make the decision about content. 405 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,500 So you don't want to be so specific that you're 406 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,339 trapped by your own survey. 407 00:20:37,339 --> 00:20:38,630 So something general like this. 408 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:40,500 I would like to know more about Unitarian Universalists. 409 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,541 And some people may check everything on the list, 410 00:20:42,541 --> 00:20:43,570 and that's OK. 411 00:20:43,570 --> 00:20:46,310 I would like to connect with other people. 412 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:48,510 In the time that I've worked with congregations, 413 00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:50,500 there was a certain group of people 414 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:53,890 in every congregation that will come to whatever adult offering 415 00:20:53,890 --> 00:20:56,170 that you offer, whatever the subject is, 416 00:20:56,170 --> 00:21:01,250 because their primary goal is connection. 417 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,210 People may want to explore, deepen, and nurture 418 00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:06,010 their sense of spirituality. 419 00:21:06,010 --> 00:21:09,080 There may be people who are looking 420 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,980 to engage deep religious or ethical questions. 421 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:13,900 There's all of those things are possible. 422 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:18,230 You can add other things based on the interviews 423 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:21,050 and the information that you've gleaned. 424 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:23,880 There's nothing magic about this one, it's just a sample. 425 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,460 But you would want a general kind of survey like this. 426 00:21:28,460 --> 00:21:30,850 And you would also want to ask any questions you really 427 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:32,680 want to know the answers to. 428 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,270 I actually probably wouldn't put the best times 429 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:38,750 for me are blank, if, for example, really 430 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:40,250 the only options are Wednesday night 431 00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:41,867 and Sunday afternoon, for example. 432 00:21:41,867 --> 00:21:43,950 If the only options are Wednesday night and Sunday 433 00:21:43,950 --> 00:21:47,299 afternoon, then just put two check boxes. 434 00:21:47,299 --> 00:21:49,340 The best time for me is Wednesday night or Sunday 435 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:49,840 afternoon. 436 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,790 Don't offer people things that are not possible. 437 00:21:52,790 --> 00:21:56,890 That just frustrates everyone. 438 00:21:56,890 --> 00:21:58,860 And you may want to ask if people 439 00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:01,110 are interested in a hybrid format, which 440 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:02,820 in a hybrid-- and you'll have to define 441 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:06,130 that-- but a hybrid format would be partly in person 442 00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:11,070 and then partly online, using some kind of video conferencing 443 00:22:11,070 --> 00:22:12,510 format. 444 00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:16,390 My advice is that if you do a hybrid kind of format, 445 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:19,890 that you use video conferencing and not just teleconferencing. 446 00:22:19,890 --> 00:22:22,210 There's some real intimacy that's 447 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:25,290 created by the videoconferencing that seems 448 00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:26,700 absent with teleconferencing. 449 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:31,660 And we have played a lot with both kinds of things. 450 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:34,104 So you might, if you're interested in exploring that, 451 00:22:34,104 --> 00:22:35,770 then put a question about whether people 452 00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:37,870 are interested in that. 453 00:22:37,870 --> 00:22:40,490 So you do your survey and you get more data. 454 00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:43,410 And then you gather your wise people 455 00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:46,520 and you talk about your findings, and you make a plan. 456 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,450 What you want to do is look at the congregational mission, 457 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:55,250 and you want to also look at what you're uniquely positioned 458 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:56,250 to offer. 459 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:59,200 So, for example, the local community college 460 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,520 may be doing a wonderful program on-- I don't know-- 461 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,760 the geology of your area. 462 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Let them do that. 463 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,650 That's something wonderful that they can do, and your folks, 464 00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:14,660 your people have access to that. 465 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:18,730 What is your congregation uniquely positioned to offer? 466 00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:21,270 And so let me take a little example. 467 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:26,030 So they made the local adult ed course in the town, 468 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:27,790 or the city, or the community college 469 00:23:27,790 --> 00:23:32,170 may offer a class in knitting, for example. 470 00:23:32,170 --> 00:23:35,930 Your congregation isn't uniquely positioned to offer knitting. 471 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:38,960 But your congregation might be in a position 472 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,234 to offer knitting as a spiritual practice. 473 00:23:42,234 --> 00:23:43,900 So, for example, if people are gathering 474 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:50,730 to knit for people who are bereaved, so that sometimes 475 00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:52,590 you just have to think a little bit about 476 00:23:52,590 --> 00:23:57,080 whether what it is that actually fits 477 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,290 with the congregational mission and isn't, can't 478 00:24:00,290 --> 00:24:02,870 be done by people outside of your congregation. 479 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:05,450 So pay attention to that to. 480 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:07,290 Pay attention to what you have the capacity 481 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:09,640 to offer that would be supported by your community 482 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,490 inside the congregation or go outside the congregation. 483 00:24:12,490 --> 00:24:12,990 [AUDIO OUT] 484 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:16,410 --offer that people show up to, that will matter to people. 485 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:18,360 That matters. 486 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:24,365 Not just what can you offer that somebody has an expertise in, 487 00:24:24,365 --> 00:24:25,740 but what can you offer that would 488 00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:27,940 be supported by your community? 489 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:29,940 And then have your wise group talk 490 00:24:29,940 --> 00:24:34,730 about what one or two things you could do well to get started. 491 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:40,160 And I think that's important-- one or two things. 492 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,790 You really, really, really want to be successful. 493 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:47,170 In whatever first new thing you do, you want to be successful. 494 00:24:47,170 --> 00:24:49,530 So pick something that'll be well supported, 495 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:52,860 that people will understand is connected to your mission, 496 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:55,960 and that you can be successful with, whatever that is. 497 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760 If it's a three-session something or other 498 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:04,940 on-- whatever it is, pick something that you can do well 499 00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:09,900 and get started. 500 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,730 Your program structure-- and I know 501 00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:15,790 that this is a burning question for many of you. 502 00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:18,760 And I deliberately haven't said figure out your program 503 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,500 structure and then pick one or two things you can do well. 504 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,530 I actually think you're better off 505 00:25:23,530 --> 00:25:28,799 to try to do some one thing, or maybe two well at the same time 506 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:31,090 as you're living into-- particularly if you're changing 507 00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:33,150 a program structure-- at the same time 508 00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:35,360 as you're living into a new program structure. 509 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,450 It gives your new program structure people 510 00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:41,130 a chance to have actual project to work on, 511 00:25:41,130 --> 00:25:46,040 one that has a relatively good odds of success. 512 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,370 And so your program structure depends 513 00:25:50,370 --> 00:25:53,110 on the amount of staffing in the congregation and its governance 514 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:53,940 structure. 515 00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:57,690 Some congregations have a policy governance 516 00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:59,150 and an executive team. 517 00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:02,970 Some have a board of trustees and use committees. 518 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:06,410 And there are different ways in which-- 519 00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:08,550 and some congregations are totally lay led. 520 00:26:08,550 --> 00:26:11,530 And so it depends on the amount of staffing, 521 00:26:11,530 --> 00:26:14,230 professional staffing you have and the governance structure. 522 00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:16,180 It depends on the interest and capacity 523 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:18,640 of your lay and professional leaders. 524 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,620 So who has the capacity, the bandwidth, 525 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:26,162 to oversee adult programming? 526 00:26:26,162 --> 00:26:27,620 And your program should be overseen 527 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:30,030 by people who have the entire congregation in mind. 528 00:26:30,030 --> 00:26:31,990 This is really important. 529 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:34,470 I've seen congregations really get 530 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:40,550 stuck with what they think of as a representative committee. 531 00:26:40,550 --> 00:26:43,400 That's a committee, an adult RE committee 532 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,940 that has people who see themselves 533 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:49,600 as representing a particular segment of the congregation. 534 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,350 Don't do that. 535 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:53,380 What you need, you want a committee 536 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:57,100 that brings people across generations, and life 537 00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,070 experiences, and so on. 538 00:27:00,070 --> 00:27:03,060 But you want each one of those people 539 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:04,519 to see themselves as a leader and 540 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,060 accountable to the whole congregation 541 00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:10,530 and not just accountable to a subset of the congregation. 542 00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:12,150 And that also frees each of them. 543 00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:14,420 It frees the elder that's part of your group 544 00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:16,640 from always speaking for the elders. 545 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,170 For example, you really don't want 546 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,753 to put people in that position, and it 547 00:27:19,753 --> 00:27:25,510 doesn't work well either. 548 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:28,120 I do want to stop for a minute and have 549 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,760 a little word about authority and responsibility. 550 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:37,030 And this is another place where adult programs can get hung up. 551 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:39,190 Please make sure that-- authority 552 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:40,930 is really transactional. 553 00:27:40,930 --> 00:27:43,350 Somebody is given the responsibility 554 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:48,500 to do something along with the authority 555 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:52,070 to make the decisions that they need in order to do it well. 556 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:55,550 So make sure that you locate your authority 557 00:27:55,550 --> 00:27:58,350 and responsibility in the same place, 558 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:01,700 whether it's a committee, a staff person, a combination 559 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,710 of staff person plus committee. 560 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:10,010 Make sure that you're not giving somebody or a group 561 00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:12,660 responsibility for something without giving them 562 00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:16,950 the authority that they need to carry out what 563 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:18,800 they need to do successfully. 564 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,610 So pay attention to that. 565 00:28:21,610 --> 00:28:26,920 Because it can happen that people are held responsible 566 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,430 for something and they don't have enough authority 567 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:35,830 to actually carry it out. 568 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:38,850 This could be the subject of an entire day's workshop-- 569 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:41,140 recruiting, training, and supporting volunteers. 570 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:43,820 And I will tell you a little bit about the pictures 571 00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:46,530 because you might be curious. 572 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:50,720 The pictures come from a place called 573 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Dogtown, which is in part of Gloucester, Massachusetts. 574 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,000 It's up on a hill, away from the ocean. 575 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:05,090 And it's where in early days, people who were not well to do, 576 00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:07,720 poor people lived in Dogtown, and Dogtown 577 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,590 came from actually wild dogs. 578 00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:16,720 And over time, this area kind of fell into disrepair and kind 579 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,170 of, there are basements and all kinds of stuff there. 580 00:29:21,170 --> 00:29:26,220 But during the Depression in the middle of the 20th century, 581 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:29,510 the person who owned the land hired unemployed stone cutters 582 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:32,580 to go around and carve inspirational messages. 583 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:35,340 He put them to work carving inspirational messages 584 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:36,410 on the boulders. 585 00:29:36,410 --> 00:29:39,200 So you can walk all around Dogtown in Gloucester 586 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,090 and see all these boulders. 587 00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:42,877 So I picked some of them. 588 00:29:42,877 --> 00:29:44,710 When I'm talking about recruiting, training, 589 00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:49,570 and support volunteers, because your adult RE volunteers need 590 00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:53,220 to see themselves and need to be treated 591 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:55,860 like the religious leaders they are. 592 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,400 In the same way that you're coming-of-age mentors, 593 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,970 if you have those working with youth, 594 00:30:00,970 --> 00:30:03,470 are perceived to be religious leaders, 595 00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:05,290 offering religious leadership. 596 00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:07,250 So, too, should be volunteers that 597 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:09,950 are leading adult faith development 598 00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:12,690 programs, both the committee or the group that 599 00:30:12,690 --> 00:30:18,180 oversees those programs and the people that are offering them. 600 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:19,950 When you're recruiting your volunteers, 601 00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:23,770 you really are looking for a good facilitator. 602 00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:27,500 You are not-- especially if you're working with Tapestry 603 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,570 of Faith materials. 604 00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:31,610 Tapestry of Faith materials never 605 00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:35,490 assume expertise in a particular topic 606 00:30:35,490 --> 00:30:37,720 on the part of the facilitator. 607 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,160 They do you ask for good facilitation skills. 608 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,620 So that's going to be your primary thing. 609 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:49,870 Can a person that you're asking to lead some kind of program, 610 00:30:49,870 --> 00:30:52,650 are they good at making a safe container where 611 00:30:52,650 --> 00:30:57,450 other people can grow and have a chance to talk and so on? 612 00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:00,670 You don't want to recruit as a volunteer somebody who 613 00:31:00,670 --> 00:31:04,360 is bound and determined to give a lecture, 614 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,370 no matter how enlightening that lecture might be. 615 00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:11,540 So pay attention to that. 616 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:15,120 You're going to want to pay attention to your volunteers. 617 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,980 They should be among the people that the professional staff 618 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,980 pay the most attention to. 619 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:25,250 A volunteer in your adult faith development program 620 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:30,760 should always be able to get the ear of the parish minister 621 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,190 or the lay leader in charge of a program 622 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:39,100 in order to talk through something that's a challenge. 623 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,310 Perhaps there's a person who is a challenge, 624 00:31:41,310 --> 00:31:43,190 or a topic that's a challenge. 625 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:45,970 But make sure that you pay attention to them 626 00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:46,930 and what they're doing. 627 00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:49,200 Ask them how they're doing. 628 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,030 You want to support them. 629 00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:57,060 And here's another favorite soapbox of mine. 630 00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:00,490 When a minister or lay leader comes 631 00:32:00,490 --> 00:32:04,680 to preach on a Sunday morning, we 632 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,030 don't expect them to come in and set up the chairs, 633 00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:11,030 and make the coffee, and make sure there's 634 00:32:11,030 --> 00:32:15,770 toilet paper in the bathroom, and just turn up the heat, 635 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:18,820 and generally take care of logistics, 636 00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:21,060 and then just pop into the pulpit 637 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:23,070 a minute or two before the service begins. 638 00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:26,270 We don't ask that of our people leading worship. 639 00:32:26,270 --> 00:32:28,590 Neither should we ask that of people 640 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:31,400 who are leading our adult faith development programs. 641 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,700 They need a few minutes to collect themselves, 642 00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:37,590 so someone else should be setting up the chairs, 643 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:40,790 making the coffee, turning up the heat, and so on. 644 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:43,930 So you need to figure out a system, whether it's 645 00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:47,090 a member of, say, your adult RE committee who does that, 646 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:53,360 or whether people who are part of the group 647 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,850 take turns and come and make the coffee in advance. 648 00:32:55,850 --> 00:32:58,180 Figure out some other system so that you're not 649 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:02,450 asking your person who is facilitating to also 650 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:04,690 be managing the logistics. 651 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:12,240 It's not respectful of them and the role that they're playing. 652 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:19,170 So I do want to [AUDIO OUT] questions, 653 00:33:19,170 --> 00:33:23,630 if there are things we can shed a little more light on. 654 00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:27,160 And then I've got some other things to talk to you about. 655 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,570 So I'm going to turn it over to Pat for a few minutes. 656 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:30,620 Pat Kahn: Great. 657 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:32,800 And so there's a number of different ways 658 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920 that you can ask questions. 659 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,760 If you want to raise your red flag, and then 660 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360 we'll call on you, and you can unmute yourself 661 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,560 and ask the question. 662 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,490 Or if you'd prefer, feel free to type it into the Chat Box 663 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,890 down at the bottom. 664 00:33:47,890 --> 00:34:00,920 So, what questions do you have at this point? 665 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,140 Was there anything that Gail said so far 666 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:06,460 in the webinar that struck a chord with you 667 00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:20,699 or that sounded strange to you? 668 00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:21,346 No questions? 669 00:34:21,346 --> 00:34:22,679 Gail Forsyth-vail: No questions. 670 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,020 Pat Kahn: I'm sure they-- here we go. 671 00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:27,020 Oh, hi Theresa. 672 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:30,100 So Theresa is asking, with the authority and responsibility 673 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,320 piece, does some of that emerge as you go along? 674 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,139 Or can a lot of it be worked out ahead of time? 675 00:34:37,139 --> 00:34:39,389 Gail Forsyth-vail: I think that in general a lot of it 676 00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:42,239 needs to be worked out ahead of time. 677 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,739 I think if you're authorizing, if you're asking people 678 00:34:44,739 --> 00:34:48,397 to be part of say an adult religious education committee, 679 00:34:48,397 --> 00:34:50,730 you want to really clarify, does that committee actually 680 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:52,300 have the authority to decide what 681 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:58,500 gets offered as programming and so on, 682 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,190 so that there's no confusion. 683 00:35:01,190 --> 00:35:03,640 So you don't have an adult RE committee-- or maybe 684 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,140 they're just making suggestions that the parish minister 685 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:11,110 or the religious educator takes under advisement. 686 00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:13,110 So I think you really want to clarify 687 00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:16,690 a lot of that role stuff ahead of time 688 00:35:16,690 --> 00:35:19,160 so there's not a misunderstanding. 689 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080 And then there may be other issues 690 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,660 that emerge as you go along that you need to talk through. 691 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:27,180 But up front, you really want to know who 692 00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:28,830 ultimately has responsibility. 693 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:32,450 And do you know, another thing to ask is, 694 00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:36,994 who has the authority to say no to something as well? 695 00:35:36,994 --> 00:35:38,910 Because that would be an important-- you know, 696 00:35:38,910 --> 00:35:40,534 somebody comes along and says, I really 697 00:35:40,534 --> 00:35:44,580 want to offer this course in whatever it is. 698 00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:47,786 And perhaps it's something that is a duplicate of what's 699 00:35:47,786 --> 00:35:49,660 being offered at the local community college, 700 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:51,450 or there's another reason why you 701 00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:55,050 don't want to put congregational energy and resources into it. 702 00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:58,840 Who has the authority to actually say no and to say, 703 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,560 well, here's our plan. 704 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,350 Here's our vision. 705 00:36:01,350 --> 00:36:03,080 And these are the two things that we're 706 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,480 going to try this year. 707 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,790 So think about that, who has the responsibility and who 708 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:08,870 has the authority. 709 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:11,740 Pat Kahn: And that feeds right into a question that Sarah 710 00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:15,300 asked, which is, she says, we have members with ideas 711 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:16,960 of what they want to teach. 712 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,294 And how do we step back? 713 00:36:19,294 --> 00:36:21,710 Gail Forsyth-vail: You know, that's a really common thing, 714 00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:23,876 and that's a really common pattern for congregations 715 00:36:23,876 --> 00:36:26,920 to get into, is to kind of look around and say, oh, 716 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,430 who wants to teach whatever, and then 717 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:33,360 to put together a program based on what 718 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,030 people come forward and say they want to teach. 719 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:39,720 I think a much better plan is to actually figure out 720 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,890 what the congregation can support, wants to support, 721 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:47,870 and needs, and then to go looking for people to lead it. 722 00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:51,910 If you have a match, that's a great thing. 723 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:55,100 And sometimes maybe you can take somebody's really wonderful 724 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:59,870 offer and work it into, maybe somebody's 725 00:36:59,870 --> 00:37:05,800 an expert on Emerson-- because I always pick on Emerson-- 726 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,380 but the congregation is really not 727 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:10,630 going to support a six-session lecture series on Ralph Waldo 728 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:11,600 Emerson. 729 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,560 But they might, for example, look 730 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,012 at-- there's a book that Barry Andrews wrote 731 00:37:16,012 --> 00:37:17,970 that you can get in the bookstore about Emerson 732 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:21,670 as a spiritual guide, which does some quotes for Emerson 733 00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:24,210 and in a small group ministry kind of reflecting 734 00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:26,470 on your own life in the light of Emerson's quotes. 735 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:29,070 So maybe there's a way to redirect 736 00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:32,010 some of the people who are anxious to teach in a way that 737 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:34,180 brings what they want to do more in line 738 00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:37,130 with faith development, spiritual growth, 739 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:41,845 and with the mission of the congregation. 740 00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:43,300 Pat Kahn: Great. 741 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,780 Paula made a comment that it made her put content 742 00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:51,900 facilitators to find out how it's going onto her to-do list. 743 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,280 She had planned to do it, but it had fallen off her list, 744 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,950 so this was a good reminder. 745 00:37:56,950 --> 00:38:04,120 Chris Cummings is asking that he or she-- sorry, 746 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,500 I was going to say she and Chris could 747 00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:10,470 be a he-- has seen Tapestry of Faith offerings, 748 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:15,971 and wants to know what other programs you might suggest. 749 00:38:15,971 --> 00:38:16,970 Gail Forsyth-vail: Sure. 750 00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:19,200 Well, I will actually do a little bit of a rundown 751 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560 on Tapestry of Faith, and also some other things 752 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,750 that I can suggest to you. 753 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:28,780 Tapestry of Faith is really the big umbrella term 754 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:32,760 for a whole library of resources for people of all ages. 755 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,700 There are spirituality programs. 756 00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:37,000 There are history programs. 757 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,490 There's currently, we have a program on race and ethnicity. 758 00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:47,680 There's adult sexuality education. 759 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,230 Our newest one is called Wisdom Path, Money, Spirit and Life, 760 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:54,840 and it's about money and values. 761 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,750 So there's a whole variety of different things. 762 00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:02,030 There's Odyssey writing workshop for elders. 763 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:05,520 So you can look at the Tapestry offerings and see what's there. 764 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520 And I need to tell you, and if I had you in person, 765 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,430 I'd make you repeat back to me that you don't 766 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:13,310 need to use every session. 767 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:15,400 So when you open up a history curriculum 768 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,940 and see that there are 16 sessions, 769 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:20,430 that doesn't mean you need to do 16 sessions. 770 00:39:20,430 --> 00:39:23,270 They're thematic, which means that each one is 771 00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:26,695 the history of a particular kind of idea or aspect 772 00:39:26,695 --> 00:39:28,930 of Unitarian Universalism. 773 00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:34,010 So you can look at them as a wonderful smorgasbord 774 00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:35,810 from which to draw. 775 00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:37,960 Other things you might look at, there 776 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,120 is a common read suggestion every year 777 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,180 for congregations, a book that comes 778 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:51,420 with a one-session or a three-session discussion guide. 779 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:52,890 And so there's a little library. 780 00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:56,250 There are now four books with discussion guides under common 781 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:58,130 read on the UUA website, and there'll 782 00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:00,890 be a fifth one this summer. 783 00:40:00,890 --> 00:40:03,060 There are other book discussion guides. 784 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:07,140 If you go to beacon.org, which is Beacon Press, which 785 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,450 is the related press for the Unitarian Universalist 786 00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:15,450 Association, there's a tab on top of their website 787 00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:16,575 that says for UUs. 788 00:40:16,575 --> 00:40:20,100 And if you open that, you'll find a lot of book discussion 789 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,090 guides for Beacon Press books. 790 00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:26,030 You can go to the UU Ministry for Earth 791 00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:30,590 and find some of their resources. 792 00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:33,560 There's a program called WellSpring 793 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,170 that's a very deep, intense spiritual development 794 00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:40,390 program that some congregations are working with. 795 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:42,770 And if you contact me separately, 796 00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:45,424 I could tell you more about that. 797 00:40:45,424 --> 00:40:47,090 And there are a variety of other things. 798 00:40:47,090 --> 00:40:50,225 I don't know where they all are you. 799 00:40:50,225 --> 00:40:51,280 You have to-- 800 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,200 There our congregations developing things all the time. 801 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,180 And we try to lift them up when we know about them. 802 00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:02,670 You can also-- there is a collective or a cooperative 803 00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:06,960 of people who are independently writing UU curricula, 804 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,170 and they have a collective website. 805 00:41:09,170 --> 00:41:14,250 It's called UUCARDS, U-U-C-A-R-D-S, 806 00:41:14,250 --> 00:41:18,400 UU Curriculum And Resource Developers, dot org, 807 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,900 you can find a full listing of things that are not published 808 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,960 by the UUA. 809 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,280 And so, explore around. 810 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,950 Pat Kahn: Carolyn asks, how is success defined? 811 00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:39,240 It can vary by congregation or one's perspective. 812 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,740 Gail Forsyth-vail: That's a really good question. 813 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:43,880 I think that you're going to want 814 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,850 to find-- you're going to want to talk with your wise people 815 00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:50,440 about what success looks like. 816 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,577 Does it look like 8 or 10 people got involved 817 00:41:55,577 --> 00:41:57,910 in this experience, and they had a wonderful experience, 818 00:41:57,910 --> 00:42:00,590 and they're talking about it, and therefore other people are 819 00:42:00,590 --> 00:42:04,570 more likely to be involved in the next one? 820 00:42:04,570 --> 00:42:10,254 I think that success looks like spiritual growth happening 821 00:42:10,254 --> 00:42:11,920 and things happening in the congregation 822 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,420 upon which you can build the next time. 823 00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:25,360 So if something provides, feels positive enough, 824 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,430 feels like a good beginning upon which you can build, 825 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:32,780 then I think that that's success. 826 00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:33,820 Pat Kahn: Great. 827 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:36,720 Michael wants to know, where do covenant groups fit 828 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,230 into adult faith development offerings? 829 00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:42,370 Is it a wholly separate program or an integrated part 830 00:42:42,370 --> 00:42:43,915 of adult RE? 831 00:42:43,915 --> 00:42:45,540 Gail Forsyth-vail: Gosh, it's different 832 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:47,370 in different congregations. 833 00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:50,380 In some congregations, the minister or assistant minister 834 00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:53,110 really overseas covenant groups. 835 00:42:53,110 --> 00:42:56,510 In other congregations, the religious educator does. 836 00:42:56,510 --> 00:43:01,840 Some congregations have a volunteer committee 837 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,760 that oversees them and they keep them separate from adult faith 838 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,410 development programming. 839 00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:08,680 My advice is that when you do your inventory, 840 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,770 you absolutely [AUDIO OUT] in your inventory. 841 00:43:14,770 --> 00:43:18,240 And I would also say that most of Tapestry of Faith 842 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,340 draws heavily on a small group ministry kind of model, 843 00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:24,700 the idea that you bring your life experiences 844 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:25,910 to the conversation. 845 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:29,880 So even if you're talking about the history of Universalism, 846 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,690 you actually are bringing part of your own story 847 00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:34,760 to the conversation. 848 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,980 So I think that whatever group overseas your adult faith 849 00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:44,970 development programming needs to be aware of the covenant 850 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:47,420 groups, needs to understand them as part of what you're 851 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:51,350 offering, needs to understand who's being served by those, 852 00:43:51,350 --> 00:43:57,560 even if they are being overseen by a different person 853 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,380 or a different group than is overseeing 854 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:02,864 other kinds of programming. 855 00:44:02,864 --> 00:44:04,280 You really want it, when you speak 856 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,361 about your adult programming out there in the world, 857 00:44:07,361 --> 00:44:09,610 or when you say to the congregation look at what we're 858 00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:13,120 doing, you want to count your small group ministry, 859 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,620 the social justice kind of workshops 860 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:18,370 and offerings, the hiking groups, 861 00:44:18,370 --> 00:44:22,350 you want to count all of that as part of what you're offering. 862 00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:23,240 Pat Kahn: Great. 863 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,870 Kenneth is interested to know how do we 864 00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:28,190 implement video conferencing? 865 00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:33,100 Gail Forsyth-vail: Oh my gosh, experimentally first. 866 00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,920 I would start with trying to do a video conference 867 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,810 with a committee. 868 00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:41,230 There are a number of different platforms. 869 00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:44,890 We are using one called FUZE, and I believe that Central East 870 00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:47,190 region also uses FUZE. 871 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:53,710 Some other UU regions use different platforms. 872 00:44:53,710 --> 00:44:57,680 Most of them will offer you a 30-day free trial, 873 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,790 and then a license needs to be-- you need to purchase, 874 00:45:00,790 --> 00:45:03,810 although I think there are some free ones, I think. 875 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:05,930 Is it any meeting is free, but if you 876 00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:08,650 can tolerate the advertising down the side 877 00:45:08,650 --> 00:45:10,390 during the video conference. 878 00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:12,760 So you can experiment around. 879 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,140 You may be able to find someone in the congregation who's 880 00:45:15,140 --> 00:45:16,806 willing to do a little bit of a research 881 00:45:16,806 --> 00:45:18,390 about video conferencing. 882 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:21,820 And then I would actually try some committee meetings 883 00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:24,980 or some staff meetings with video conferencing. 884 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:27,190 Even if you're all in the same building, 885 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:29,890 you can try a little bit of video conferencing, 886 00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:33,770 test it out, see how it feels, see if you like the format. 887 00:45:33,770 --> 00:45:38,150 You're going to need some adventurous and flexible people 888 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:41,600 the first few times you try video conferencing. 889 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,380 Yup. 890 00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:46,277 Pat says Zoom is another one. 891 00:45:46,277 --> 00:45:47,610 And you need to learn to use it. 892 00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:51,852 Most of these platforms have a little training video 893 00:45:51,852 --> 00:45:53,060 that shows you how to use it. 894 00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:59,480 And you really just basically need to play with them. 895 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,860 Pat Kahn: Great. 896 00:46:00,860 --> 00:46:03,450 Theresa wants to know, would you always offer 897 00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:05,490 child care for adult RE? 898 00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:08,090 And do you open the sessions to teens? 899 00:46:08,090 --> 00:46:11,200 Or do you tackle these two potential challenges 900 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,160 as challenges only if they come up. 901 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,170 Good question. 902 00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:18,910 Gail Forsyth-vail: They're both excellent questions. 903 00:46:18,910 --> 00:46:25,100 I think child care really depends on what you're offering 904 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:26,720 and when. 905 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,160 If you're specifically offering something for retirees, 906 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,730 then unless you know, for example, that some 907 00:46:33,730 --> 00:46:36,970 of your retirees are caring for children, 908 00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:39,120 then you maybe don't need to worry about it. 909 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,590 But if you are really looking to be offering something 910 00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:46,060 that's more inclusive, or more likely 911 00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:48,630 to draw a broad demographic, then 912 00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:51,030 you really to offer the option for child care. 913 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:55,890 And it can be done in different ways. 914 00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:58,830 Some congregations will say you need 915 00:46:58,830 --> 00:47:02,740 to let us know by three days before, or five days before, 916 00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:05,820 if you need child care so that you're not 917 00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:11,990 contracting with a care provider that you're not going to use. 918 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:14,910 You do need to make sure that any child care follows whatever 919 00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:17,610 your congregation standards are. 920 00:47:17,610 --> 00:47:21,210 And I would say that child care, in general, 921 00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:23,850 should be part of the congregational budget 922 00:47:23,850 --> 00:47:27,860 and not solely the responsibility of the parents, 923 00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:31,640 the cost of child care. 924 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,410 So those are some considerations. 925 00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:37,020 I think that that's a broad philosophical question 926 00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:40,900 for your committee, and I would say for your governing board, 927 00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:44,450 parish council, executive team, somebody in leadership 928 00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:45,460 to really take on. 929 00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:50,170 Because it involves budget and it involves policy. 930 00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:53,940 As for inviting teens, again, it really depends. 931 00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,550 I would definitely want to invite youth 932 00:47:56,550 --> 00:48:00,480 into workshops that concern social justice or Unitarian 933 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,890 Universalism. 934 00:48:02,890 --> 00:48:06,390 If it's a parenting support group, maybe not. 935 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:11,130 Your adult programming is going to offer 936 00:48:11,130 --> 00:48:16,110 some things that are really for a mixed group of people, 937 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:20,470 and other things that are more specific to a certain life 938 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:21,760 stage or age. 939 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,370 If you're doing elder odysseys, then that's 940 00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:26,730 not a place to invite teens. 941 00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:30,440 It's also not a place to invite 40-somethings. 942 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520 So, depending on what it is, sure, I 943 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,490 would always leave the invitation open. 944 00:48:36,490 --> 00:48:41,760 And sometimes I would be really explicit in inviting teens 945 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,600 to take part. 946 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,290 The conversations can be really rich if they do. 947 00:48:47,290 --> 00:48:50,550 I'm thinking of one particular common read that we have, 948 00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:52,840 it's called Acts of Faith. 949 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,650 And the book is Eboo Patel's book, 950 00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:57,330 and he talks about why it's so crucial that we pay attention 951 00:48:57,330 --> 00:49:00,720 to youth and young adult ministry, those of us who 952 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,410 are religious liberals. 953 00:49:02,410 --> 00:49:07,870 And it's a conversation that includes youth and young adults 954 00:49:07,870 --> 00:49:10,964 would just be a fabulous one. 955 00:49:10,964 --> 00:49:11,630 Pat Kahn: Great. 956 00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:13,930 I think we have time for one more question. 957 00:49:13,930 --> 00:49:17,910 And Chris asks, how would you suggest recruiting volunteers? 958 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:22,160 That's volunteers to teach or facilitate. 959 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,750 Gail Forsyth-vail: I think that you 960 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:28,990 need to really look for the people who have the capacity 961 00:49:28,990 --> 00:49:32,740 to provide a container in which other people can grow. 962 00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:34,540 So you really need to be, have your eye 963 00:49:34,540 --> 00:49:39,560 out for people who are well balanced, spiritually grounded, 964 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,770 are good facilitators, or could be 965 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:43,680 taught to be good facilitators. 966 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,110 There are resources online on uua.org 967 00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:49,920 about how to facilitate. 968 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 And facilitation can be also taught 969 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,360 by somebody who knows how to do it, 970 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,310 like a minister, a religious educator, somebody 971 00:49:57,310 --> 00:50:01,160 who does facilitation as part of their professional life. 972 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,810 So you really need to be on the lookout for somebody who 973 00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:07,650 has the capacity, not to be the star of the show, 974 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:12,450 not to be the person who's giving people stuff 975 00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:15,160 that other people are taking in, but rather 976 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,090 to create a container in which people 977 00:50:17,090 --> 00:50:19,514 can bring their own experiences, can 978 00:50:19,514 --> 00:50:21,680 learn something from each other, can learn something 979 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,590 from the content. 980 00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:24,420 They need all of those three things. 981 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:26,540 A chance to process their own experiences, 982 00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:29,890 a chance to learn from other people, and a chance to learn 983 00:50:29,890 --> 00:50:33,400 from whatever the content topic is. 984 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,020 And you really want to speak to those people 985 00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:41,250 and tell them why you want them to do it. 986 00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:45,300 Why it's important, and why this is 987 00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:50,690 a position of religious leadership in the congregation. 988 00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:54,690 I think those are the important ways that you would want 989 00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:58,070 to recruit those volunteers. 990 00:50:58,070 --> 00:51:01,570 And another little example, it may not 991 00:51:01,570 --> 00:51:03,830 be the best knitter in the congregation who 992 00:51:03,830 --> 00:51:06,890 was the right one to lead the Knitting as Spiritual Practice 993 00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:07,390 group. 994 00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:12,060 It'll be the person who can set the container by which 995 00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:15,810 newcomers and longtime knitters can all learn how to 996 00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:20,760 knit and knit those afghans for people who are bereaved or shut 997 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:26,200 in in a really welcoming way. 998 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,760 And I sort of belabored that metaphor at that point, 999 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,380 but I think you know what I mean. 1000 00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:34,080 So just be careful about the people. 1001 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,700 That's going to be the really important thing. 1002 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,826 The content, you can find it in tapestry. 1003 00:51:41,826 --> 00:51:42,450 It's all there. 1004 00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:44,870 We give you what you need. 1005 00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:48,964 So it's the people that matter. 1006 00:51:48,964 --> 00:51:49,630 Pat Kahn: Great. 1007 00:51:49,630 --> 00:51:52,220 We have a couple more things, pieces of information 1008 00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:54,880 to share with you, but on the screen now 1009 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,820 is Gail's email address. 1010 00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:02,400 gforsythvail@uua.org. 1011 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,860 Gail is the Adult Programs Director 1012 00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:06,530 for the Faith Development Office, 1013 00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:08,650 and she has a wealth of experience. 1014 00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:13,260 So if you have other questions that we didn't get to tonight 1015 00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:16,540 or things that are specific to your location, 1016 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:19,910 Gail is always happy to take emails. 1017 00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:23,260 So, a couple of the other things we want to tell you about. 1018 00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:27,130 If you will be going to General Assembly in Providence, Rhode 1019 00:52:27,130 --> 00:52:32,240 Island, there will be a gathering on Saturday, June 28, 1020 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,420 At 3:30 in the afternoon for anyone 1021 00:52:35,420 --> 00:52:39,690 who's involved in planning and delivering adult programming. 1022 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:41,490 So you are welcome to come together 1023 00:52:41,490 --> 00:52:43,970 in the Dunkin' Donuts Center Media Room, 1024 00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:46,210 and Gail will be there, among other people. 1025 00:52:46,210 --> 00:52:50,270 And come and gather and talk and meet 1026 00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:52,290 others who are doing the same kinds of things 1027 00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:56,070 that you're doing-- excuse me-- in your congregation. 1028 00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:58,730 A couple of other resources there 1029 00:52:58,730 --> 00:53:03,870 is a Renaissance module, which is continuing education geared 1030 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:08,370 towards religious educators, but open to everyone, so ministers, 1031 00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:14,160 seminarians, adult programs committee members. 1032 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,540 It is a 15-hour training, usually held 1033 00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:21,240 over the course of a weekend or weekdays. 1034 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:26,640 And if you are interested in having a Renaissance module 1035 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,350 or sponsoring one, you can email renaissance@uua.org 1036 00:53:31,350 --> 00:53:34,200 to find out more, or talk with, perhaps someone 1037 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,710 in your district or regional office 1038 00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:41,810 about sponsoring that Renaissance module. 1039 00:53:41,810 --> 00:53:45,390 There is also an Adult-RE email list. 1040 00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:50,020 So if you go to the URL that's listed on the slide 1041 00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:54,170 right now, that Alicia has already put into the Chat Box-- 1042 00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:58,140 thank you, Alicia-- you can sign up for that, 1043 00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:03,230 and it is-- I don't think it's extremely heavily trafficked. 1044 00:54:03,230 --> 00:54:04,870 Gail, you can correct me if I'm wrong, 1045 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:08,660 but it's a reasonable amount of traffic on the list 1046 00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:10,500 where you can ask questions, you know, 1047 00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,780 about what other people are doing in an area 1048 00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:16,720 or how they've solved a specific problem. 1049 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:21,520 And you can also, as any uua.org email list, 1050 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,580 you can set it up to be digests so that you only 1051 00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:28,780 get it periodically, or you can just get all the emails. 1052 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:33,710 So those are two more resources available to you. 1053 00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:37,800 And then we just wanted to give you a quick note about upcoming 1054 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,600 webinars. 1055 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,400 We, the Faith Development Office, 1056 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,130 has been doing these monthly. 1057 00:54:42,130 --> 00:54:43,900 We started in January. 1058 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:46,850 So we're almost through with half a year of these. 1059 00:54:46,850 --> 00:54:51,190 The next one will be "Live from Providence," 1060 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:53,370 GA for Religious Educators. 1061 00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:56,550 On Wednesday, June 25, and July, we'll 1062 00:54:56,550 --> 00:55:00,660 be doing a guest appearance with Karen Bellavance-Grace, who's 1063 00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:04,430 the Director of Faith Formation for the Clara Barton district 1064 00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:07,880 and Mass Bay district on Full Week Faith. 1065 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,120 And in August, another guest speaker, Pat Infante, 1066 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,130 who is in the Central Eastern Regional Group, 1067 00:55:18,130 --> 00:55:23,360 CERG, and she and I will be talking about the New DRE. 1068 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,620 And then we've got them all the way planned out 1069 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:28,030 through I think January or February of next year, 1070 00:55:28,030 --> 00:55:32,750 but you'll see the website where we 1071 00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:35,210 post the recordings of the webinars 1072 00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:39,020 as well as all the PowerPoint slides. 1073 00:55:39,020 --> 00:55:43,840 And Michelle, are the handouts available for the Renaissance 1074 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,790 module packet? 1075 00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:53,830 There is, on one of the related web pages about Renaissance, 1076 00:55:53,830 --> 00:55:56,700 there's something called Module Resources. 1077 00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:00,560 You'll see that on the left-hand menu. 1078 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:08,990 So that's where leaders guides and handouts are available. 1079 00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:12,640 I would, of course, you may or may not 1080 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,120 be able to get everything that you would get out 1081 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,750 of just reading handouts without taking the module, 1082 00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:22,230 but certainly they are all available online. 1083 00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:25,061 And Alicia has put that up there. 1084 00:56:25,061 --> 00:56:27,060 Gail Forsyth-vail: I think one other thing, Pat, 1085 00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:32,050 to mention to people, that if you go to uua.org and put 1086 00:56:32,050 --> 00:56:36,800 in the Search Box Sharing the Floor, 1087 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,880 it will take you to a document about facilitation. 1088 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,330 It's over three or four pages long 1089 00:56:41,330 --> 00:56:42,800 that might be really good to give 1090 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,431 to any people that are facilitating any adult program 1091 00:56:48,431 --> 00:56:48,930 offering. 1092 00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:50,310 So it's called Sharing the Floor, 1093 00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:51,768 and you should be able to find that 1094 00:56:51,768 --> 00:56:55,680 fairly easily by putting Sharing the Floor in the Search Box 1095 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,930 on uua.org. 1096 00:56:57,930 --> 00:56:59,600 Pat Kahn: Great. 1097 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:07,420 And, Gail, I believe you have a closing reading for us. 1098 00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:08,535 Gail Forsyth-vail: I do. 1099 00:57:08,535 --> 00:57:18,340 And I'm back to-- oops, my paper fell out. 1100 00:57:18,340 --> 00:57:25,630 Give me one second. 1101 00:57:25,630 --> 00:57:28,920 Pat Kahn: Gail is going to use Bless the Imperfect once again. 1102 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,920 Gail Forsyth-vail: I am. 1103 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,430 And I love this. 1104 00:57:32,430 --> 00:57:35,840 For this, for [INAUDIBLE]. 1105 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:41,310 And I had it all marked and it-- here it is. 1106 00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:46,970 So I highly recommend this resource, by the way. 1107 00:57:46,970 --> 00:57:48,290 It's at the UUA Bookstore. 1108 00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:51,100 You can also get at a GA. 1109 00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,200 It's called Bless the Imperfect-- Meditations 1110 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,090 for Congregational Leaders. 1111 00:57:55,090 --> 00:57:57,570 And this one is called "Keep your Dreams Alive," 1112 00:57:57,570 --> 00:58:01,470 and was written by Hope Johnson. 1113 00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:03,760 "Listen. 1114 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,300 Light the way. 1115 00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:08,930 Lend a hand. 1116 00:58:08,930 --> 00:58:12,090 Make decisions. 1117 00:58:12,090 --> 00:58:14,960 Commit. 1118 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,580 Take risks. 1119 00:58:17,580 --> 00:58:21,290 Fail forward. 1120 00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:23,900 Build community. 1121 00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:28,220 Nurture meaningful relationships. 1122 00:58:28,220 --> 00:58:30,560 Be real. 1123 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,040 Give thanks. 1124 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,010 Invest in someone or something that you believe in. 1125 00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:39,860 Live. 1126 00:58:39,860 --> 00:58:41,670 Love. 1127 00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:43,670 Dream. 1128 00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:46,390 Dream big. 1129 00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:48,900 Be transformed. 1130 00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,560 Change the world. 1131 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,400 Lead. 1132 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,100 And keep your dreams alive." 1133 00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,080 Pat Kahn: Great. 1134 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,300 Thank you, Gail. 1135 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,230 Thank you, Alicia. 1136 00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:05,700 And thank all of you for signing on tonight. 1137 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:07,210 We're glad you were here. 1138 00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,350 Gail Forsyth-vail: Thanks everybody. 1139 00:59:09,350 --> 00:59:11,240 Alicia Leblanc: Thank you. 1140 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:20,438