1 00:00:10,466 --> 00:00:15,722 >> Thank you so much, Jason. Wasn't it good to sing together? 2 00:00:15,723 --> 00:00:22,964 Now we get to engage in yet another spiritual practice of 3 00:00:22,965 --> 00:00:27,224 decision-making. Now again, polity is theology. It's one 4 00:00:27,225 --> 00:00:31,207 of the ways that we express our Living Tradition. We say that 5 00:00:31,208 --> 00:00:35,714 we make decisions together that bind us and committees to action 6 00:00:35,965 --> 00:00:38,222 and so that's exactly what we're doing with responsive 7 00:00:41,227 --> 00:00:44,959 resolutions. Responsive resolutions are intended to 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:51,721 respond to a substantive part of any report that has been 9 00:00:51,722 --> 00:00:52,975 presented to the General Assembly. Today we have three 10 00:00:52,976 --> 00:00:56,711 that will come before us. Some important things to know about 11 00:00:56,712 --> 00:00:59,968 responsive resolutions is they are binding only on the 12 00:00:59,969 --> 00:01:04,727 delegates of this General Assembly. They committee to the 13 00:01:04,977 --> 00:01:10,469 specific actions in them, and when they direct action to the 14 00:01:10,470 --> 00:01:16,227 board, they're more informative necessarily than their 15 00:01:16,228 --> 00:01:20,214 directive. So keep that in mind . They require a two-thirds 16 00:01:20,215 --> 00:01:24,974 vote in order to be adopted by the General Assembly. And the 17 00:01:24,975 --> 00:01:29,731 very first thing we're going to do is add them onto the agenda. 18 00:01:29,732 --> 00:01:33,715 So if you have not had a chance to look over the responsive 19 00:01:33,716 --> 00:01:36,969 resolutions, we do not have them in paper form. They are 20 00:01:36,970 --> 00:01:41,959 available on your app. They are also available electronically 21 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,718 at the website. So I'll give you a second to bring them up if 22 00:01:45,968 --> 00:01:49,726 you don't already -- if you're not already looking at them. 23 00:01:49,976 --> 00:01:51,980 Maybe you've printed them off. You're allowed to print them 24 00:01:51,981 --> 00:01:54,962 off yourself. That's fine. 25 00:02:08,463 --> 00:02:10,966 I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 26 00:02:10,967 --> 00:02:14,973 >> Yes, please. Carl Ponenan from the Unitarian Universalist 27 00:02:14,974 --> 00:02:18,961 you know which of greater Lansing. I remembered it that 28 00:02:18,962 --> 00:02:22,218 time. To the point of personal privilege privilege, many of he 29 00:02:22,219 --> 00:02:24,723 is don't carry these expensive electronic devices around. Some 30 00:02:24,724 --> 00:02:29,732 of us can't afford them. In the budget we have or we have 31 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:31,969 other priorities with the small amount of money that we have. 32 00:02:32,219 --> 00:02:34,973 Is there some way that these can be made accessible for the rest 33 00:02:35,474 --> 00:02:40,480 of us? I can even give you a dollar or two if it will cover 34 00:02:40,481 --> 00:02:44,472 the cost of printing. >> 35 00:02:51,484 --> 00:02:56,226 so we are working to put them on the screen. So there is 36 00:02:56,227 --> 00:03:00,234 three. Remember? So all three can't go on the screen at the 37 00:03:00,235 --> 00:03:03,239 same time. All right? So just give a moment so they can have 38 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,220 time to read and then the next one will come. Is that okay?>> 39 00:03:07,221 --> 00:03:12,228 I read very quickly. Thank you. Thank you. 40 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:12,980 >> there's not four. There are three. 41 00:03:12,981 --> 00:03:19,472 >> there are only three. One has been withdrawn. It was one 42 00:03:19,473 --> 00:03:21,980 that directed a similar action as another one of the responsive 43 00:03:23,233 --> 00:03:25,737 resolutions. The only ones that you will find on the 44 00:03:25,738 --> 00:03:28,992 website or in the app are the three. 45 00:03:38,233 --> 00:03:39,985 >> If you have a question, I need to you come to the 46 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:47,726 microphone. [Applause]Are there questions? 47 00:03:48,477 --> 00:03:51,483 I hear yelling, but I don't hear questions. 48 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:04,984 >> Hi. >> I recognize the delegate at 49 00:04:04,985 --> 00:04:07,970 the procedural Mike. >> Sally Geller, central 50 00:04:07,971 --> 00:04:12,477 Unitarian church, Paramus, New Jersey. I apologize. I was 51 00:04:12,478 --> 00:04:15,486 coming to ask the question. I thought you were answering it. 52 00:04:16,739 --> 00:04:19,471 A point of information. Which resolution has been withdrawn? 53 00:04:19,721 --> 00:04:23,727 Thank you. >> there were two resolutions 54 00:04:23,728 --> 00:04:28,237 submitted regarding an eighth principle study commission 55 00:04:33,975 --> 00:04:35,975 . 56 00:04:43,221 --> 00:04:46,226 I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 57 00:04:46,227 --> 00:04:50,733 >> To clarify, to help you all, because you all aren't on your 58 00:04:50,734 --> 00:04:54,217 devices up there, on the app there are four. One is 59 00:04:54,218 --> 00:04:58,476 highlighted in yellow. I'm going to make an assumption that 60 00:04:58,977 --> 00:05:02,731 that is the one that has been withdrawn. No? 61 00:05:02,732 --> 00:05:08,973 >> can you give us the title? >> I absolutely will. It says 62 00:05:08,974 --> 00:05:11,477 amendment to study commission to review and possibly propose 63 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:16,988 updates to the prince pell -- and it is highlighted in yellow. 64 00:05:16,989 --> 00:05:22,975 It is page 3. So if you're looking on the app, on mine it 65 00:05:22,976 --> 00:05:27,233 is page 3. It's highlighted in yellow. That is the one that 66 00:05:27,234 --> 00:05:29,967 has been withdrawn. Excellent. >> could the delegate please 67 00:05:29,968 --> 00:05:36,230 introduce herself? >> Christina Rivera, Director of 68 00:05:36,731 --> 00:05:40,239 administration finance, the congregation UU in Charlotte 69 00:05:40,739 --> 00:05:41,967 ville and on the Board of Trustees. 70 00:05:41,968 --> 00:05:44,222 >> thank you. 71 00:05:50,482 --> 00:05:52,737 >> I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 72 00:05:52,738 --> 00:06:00,480 >> My name is Pat Eggenburger, Unitarian fellowship of Stan he 73 00:06:00,481 --> 00:06:03,487 is law county. I'm visually impaired and I was not able to 74 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:06,719 make it big enough to my application. I tried to turn it 75 00:06:06,969 --> 00:06:08,969 sideways and I still couldn't get it big enough. I can't read 76 00:06:08,973 --> 00:06:12,226 it on the screen. So in the future, I would like you to have 77 00:06:12,476 --> 00:06:16,482 some copies available for the visually impaired. 78 00:06:23,478 --> 00:06:24,979 >> Okay. We're leveraging together and we are learning 79 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:29,738 about the limitations and the complex balance between 80 00:06:29,739 --> 00:06:31,739 environmental sustainability 81 00:06:33,724 --> 00:06:37,982 and accessibility, especially when it comes to vision. We err 82 00:06:38,233 --> 00:06:42,718 ed on one side. And we knew that might be an issue. So we 83 00:06:42,719 --> 00:06:49,480 are doing our best to address this in the moment. What I 84 00:06:49,481 --> 00:06:53,967 would suggest is that if you have printed out copies and you 85 00:06:53,968 --> 00:06:57,222 have large printed them, if you could share them with someone 86 00:06:57,223 --> 00:06:59,475 who maybe doesn't have it and would like to have it in paper 87 00:06:59,476 --> 00:07:02,730 format, you can review them together. We are also putting 88 00:07:02,731 --> 00:07:08,221 them up on the screen. We'll give about -- let's do two 89 00:07:08,222 --> 00:07:13,480 minutes on each one and then we'll continue. Okay? So right 90 00:07:13,481 --> 00:07:21,227 now we're reading combating escalating inequality. Let's 91 00:07:21,228 --> 00:07:24,236 make that full screen, please. 92 00:08:10,482 --> 00:08:14,738 Whereas Tom Andrews of the UUA SC said that he can not think of 93 00:08:14,739 --> 00:08:18,472 a time when UU values were more under attack than they are 94 00:08:18,473 --> 00:08:22,229 today. Whereas the causes of case late lating inequality 95 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:24,736 intersection with white supremacy. Therefore, be it 96 00:08:24,737 --> 00:08:27,492 resolved that the 2017 General Assembly calls on the UUA Board 97 00:08:27,493 --> 00:08:33,225 of Trustees and UUA staff to appoint a committee to 98 00:08:33,226 --> 00:08:36,982 coordinate, strategize, and advise congregations on how to 99 00:08:36,983 --> 00:08:41,489 address effectively these deep seated cultural issues. All 100 00:08:41,490 --> 00:08:48,482 righty All righty? That was that one. Check one. 101 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:56,724 Perfect. >> appointment of a study 102 00:08:56,725 --> 00:08:59,730 commission to consider adding an eighth principle to article 103 00:09:03,486 --> 00:09:09,979 two, principles and purposes. Section-2.one. Whereas the 104 00:09:09,980 --> 00:09:12,732 interim co-presidents' report and the report of the Board of 105 00:09:12,733 --> 00:09:14,987 Trustees both address the issues . White supremacy and 106 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:20,978 intersecting forms of oppression ; and whereas the delegates of 107 00:09:20,979 --> 00:09:25,234 the 2017 General Assembly believe that such issues are 108 00:09:25,235 --> 00:09:27,741 sufficiently important to be specifically addressed in the UU 109 00:09:29,493 --> 00:09:32,730 A bylaws, principles, and purposes. Therefore, be it 110 00:09:32,731 --> 00:09:37,240 resolved that the delegates to the 2017 General Assembly call 111 00:09:37,241 --> 00:09:41,499 for the board to appoint a study commission is to discuss adding 112 00:09:41,976 --> 00:09:47,487 an eighth principle that may be as stated below: We, the 113 00:09:47,488 --> 00:09:50,743 member congregations of the Unitarian Universalist 114 00:09:50,744 --> 00:09:54,977 association, covenant to affirm and promote journeying toward 115 00:09:54,978 --> 00:09:59,733 spiritual wholeness by building a diverse, multicultural Beloved 116 00:09:59,983 --> 00:10:01,983 Community by 117 00:10:03,989 --> 00:10:07,478 our actions that accountably dismannal racism and other 118 00:10:07,479 --> 00:10:10,983 occasions in ourselves and in our institutions. 119 00:10:11,735 --> 00:10:16,493 [Applause] >> And here's the third one. 120 00:10:16,743 --> 00:10:21,481 Making the Standing on the Side of Love campaign more inclusive, 121 00:10:21,732 --> 00:10:27,249 whereas the journey to whole ness transformation community 122 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:30,476 report identifies Unitarian Universalism as a movement, has 123 00:10:30,477 --> 00:10:33,481 made progress in anti-oppression work, but still has work to do. 124 00:10:33,482 --> 00:10:37,740 Whereas, part of the work we Unitarian Universalists need to 125 00:10:37,741 --> 00:10:40,996 do is make our justice campaign, Standing on the Side of Love, 126 00:10:40,997 --> 00:10:46,734 more inclusive. Whereas, use of the word standing as default 127 00:10:46,735 --> 00:10:50,490 justice language places a high value on the justice work and 128 00:10:50,491 --> 00:10:52,495 commitments of able-bodyied people, while it makes invisible 129 00:10:52,996 --> 00:10:55,979 and excludes the justice work of people with a wide range of 130 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:59,735 disabilities and autistic people . Whereas, Unitarian 131 00:10:59,736 --> 00:11:03,492 Universalist principles call for justice, equity, and compassion 132 00:11:03,493 --> 00:11:07,981 in human relations; and whereas , our faith calls us to consider 133 00:11:08,481 --> 00:11:13,242 the impact of our words and to take action and engage with able 134 00:11:13,746 --> 00:11:16,498 ism in the creation of a Beloved Community. Therefore, be it 135 00:11:16,499 --> 00:11:20,229 resolved that the 2017 General Assembly calls upon the leaders 136 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:24,487 of the UUA standing on the side of love campaign to create a new 137 00:11:25,489 --> 00:11:28,242 imaging that better includes and reflects the needs and 138 00:11:28,243 --> 00:11:30,226 contributions of disabled people . 139 00:11:30,227 --> 00:11:32,227 [Applause] 140 00:11:36,984 --> 00:11:40,989 >> Thank you, tri-moderator Elandria for a compassionate 141 00:11:40,990 --> 00:11:43,728 compromise. I recognize the off-site delegate at the 142 00:11:43,729 --> 00:11:49,990 procedural mic. >> this question is from Allen L 143 00:11:50,241 --> 00:11:56,981 indrup, First Unitarian society of Chicago. Are responsive 144 00:11:56,982 --> 00:12:00,235 resolutions open to amendment or must they be voted up or down 145 00:12:00,236 --> 00:12:03,742 as initially written? >> they are open for amendment 146 00:12:03,743 --> 00:12:07,227 after an initial period of conversation has he lapsed. In 147 00:12:07,228 --> 00:12:11,735 our rules, we have aloud 15 minutes for that or until no one 148 00:12:11,736 --> 00:12:15,243 else is standing at the microphone, off-site or in 149 00:12:15,244 --> 00:12:17,749 person. I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 150 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:23,737 >> Hello. Jackie Phelps of the UU fellowship of Lafayette, 151 00:12:23,738 --> 00:12:29,749 Louisiana. I'm told this is a point of privilege. As a person 152 00:12:29,976 --> 00:12:36,237 with a disability, I would suggest we change autistic 153 00:12:36,238 --> 00:12:38,238 people to people 154 00:12:40,494 --> 00:12:42,494 with autism. [Applause] 155 00:12:42,978 --> 00:12:49,740 And disabled people as either people with disabilities or 156 00:12:49,741 --> 00:12:51,993 people who are differently abled. 157 00:12:52,745 --> 00:12:59,484 [Applause]The disability or condition does not define who 158 00:12:59,485 --> 00:13:03,744 the person is. [Applause] 159 00:13:09,981 --> 00:13:11,981 >> So that is helpful information. That's not quite a 160 00:13:12,738 --> 00:13:15,491 pointed of personal privilege. Those were moving amendments 161 00:13:15,492 --> 00:13:19,482 amendments. I know. I know. I know. It's the ruling of the 162 00:13:19,483 --> 00:13:22,236 chair, not necessarily the tellers. All right? So the 163 00:13:22,237 --> 00:13:25,993 ruling of the chair is that that's not a point of personal 164 00:13:25,994 --> 00:13:29,980 privilege. When the time is appropriate, we could make it an 165 00:13:29,981 --> 00:13:32,733 amendment and the Chair might be inclined to believe that that 166 00:13:32,734 --> 00:13:36,490 is a clarifying amendment rather than a substantive change 167 00:13:36,491 --> 00:13:38,491 based 168 00:13:39,498 --> 00:13:41,251 on contemporary language. We'll see what happens when we 169 00:13:41,252 --> 00:13:44,234 get there. [Applause] 170 00:13:44,483 --> 00:13:47,488 I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 171 00:13:47,489 --> 00:13:49,489 >> Good Afternoon 172 00:13:50,996 --> 00:13:53,750 , Moderator Greg. I have a point of information. I'm Debra 173 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:55,482 Boyd from the first Unitarian Universalist church of Columbus, 174 00:13:55,483 --> 00:13:58,237 Ohio, and a member of the General Assembly's planning 175 00:13:58,238 --> 00:14:02,743 committee. We have a limited number of copies of the 176 00:14:02,744 --> 00:14:07,480 responsive resolutions, so if those folks who truly cannot 177 00:14:07,481 --> 00:14:10,737 share with their neighbor and this is a necessary piece, we 178 00:14:10,738 --> 00:14:15,242 have those in the hall. >> Where would we be able to 179 00:14:15,243 --> 00:14:17,984 find those? >> in my hand. 180 00:14:17,985 --> 00:14:21,739 >> all right. So folks who do need a paper copy, if you're 181 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:24,742 able to make it toward the front or it looks like we have some 182 00:14:24,743 --> 00:14:27,247 folks -- >> I will go hand-deliver. 183 00:14:27,248 --> 00:14:29,984 >> all right. They will be hand-delivered. 184 00:14:30,485 --> 00:14:32,485 [Applause] 185 00:14:36,496 --> 00:14:39,753 >> Before I recognize the next delegate at the procedural mic, 186 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:41,756 I want to remind you that we have not yet added these to the 187 00:14:41,757 --> 00:14:44,237 agenda, so we're not even having the conversation on the 188 00:14:44,238 --> 00:14:46,742 responsive resolutions. >> You want me to wait, then? 189 00:14:46,743 --> 00:14:50,499 >> well, it depends on do we want to take action on these 190 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:53,003 responsive resolutions? Yeah? Okay. So we have to do another 191 00:14:53,004 --> 00:14:53,753 thing first. >> okay. 192 00:14:53,754 --> 00:14:56,238 >> all right. So you can stay there. You can stay there. 193 00:14:56,239 --> 00:15:04,255 You don't have to go away. Is there another procedural 194 00:15:04,256 --> 00:15:06,484 question that does 2409 deal directly with the things we want 195 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:12,494 to discuss? Okay. So let's first add the three responsive 196 00:15:12,495 --> 00:15:14,749 resolutions that you've had a chance to read or 197 00:15:17,985 --> 00:15:22,242 have read to you. Debra is still making some rounds. Debra 198 00:15:22,744 --> 00:15:27,501 is all finished making those rounds, I'm getting the signal. 199 00:15:27,502 --> 00:15:30,735 And so I'm going to add these to the agenda. This takes a 200 00:15:30,736 --> 00:15:36,495 simple majority vote, and we'll give our tech deck a little time 201 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:40,252 to tee up the off-site delegates, to whom I owe an 202 00:15:40,253 --> 00:15:47,240 apology. Yesterday I said something I know delegate * cat 203 00:15:47,241 --> 00:15:50,745 and -- indelicate and inappropriate that we could 204 00:15:50,746 --> 00:15:53,983 determine the majority just by the folks that were in the hall. 205 00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:57,989 And that was experienced by some of our off-site delegates 206 00:15:57,990 --> 00:16:04,251 as dismissive and made them feel like their votes don't counted 207 00:16:04,252 --> 00:16:09,239 counted. Every delegate's vote counts and I am deeply sorry for 208 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:16,002 the pain that I caused by indicating that the on-site deli 209 00:16:17,255 --> 00:16:19,734 delegate slow was more important than the off-site 210 00:16:19,735 --> 00:16:22,990 delegate vote. We do not make decisions without consulting the 211 00:16:23,491 --> 00:16:26,999 entire tote, and to the off-site delegates, I also want 212 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,487 you to know that your votes are archiveed, because they're 213 00:16:31,488 --> 00:16:35,743 electronic, and so we have more control. So we can always go 214 00:16:35,744 --> 00:16:38,997 back and re-visit your vote in a way that we don't have the same 215 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:42,484 ability to do inside the hall. So I want you to know that not 216 00:16:42,485 --> 00:16:50,497 only do your votes matter, but that we can experience them 217 00:16:50,498 --> 00:16:53,002 differently if we need to. I am sorry. 218 00:16:53,754 --> 00:17:03,498 [Applause]So, so let's get our voting card out. Often sides 219 00:17:03,499 --> 00:17:06,233 delegates delegates, all those in favor of adding the three 220 00:17:06,234 --> 00:17:10,740 responsive resolutions to our agenda, Katie about raising your 221 00:17:10,741 --> 00:17:12,996 delegate cards now. 222 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:22,994 Can I have some help from my tri -moderators in determining 223 00:17:22,995 --> 00:17:26,002 there? All those opposed to adding the responsive 224 00:17:26,003 --> 00:17:28,506 resolutions to the agenda? Katie about raising your voting 225 00:17:28,507 --> 00:17:30,507 card now. 226 00:17:33,488 --> 00:17:36,745 . Please closed cue for the off-site delegates. Off-site 227 00:17:36,746 --> 00:17:44,236 delegate vote. That clearly passes. All right. So now we 228 00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:47,991 have some responsive resolutions to show. I'm going to hand it 229 00:17:47,992 --> 00:17:53,984 over to try moderator Elandria who will be taking it in the 230 00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:59,497 order we go, combating escalating income inequality and 231 00:17:59,997 --> 00:18:02,251 then the eighth principle one, and then we have someone at the 232 00:18:02,252 --> 00:18:04,507 procedural mic. 233 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:15,002 >> Before we get there, I want to remind you of a statement we 234 00:18:15,003 --> 00:18:18,484 said yesterday. If you can impact after me? Impact over 235 00:18:18,485 --> 00:18:19,486 grammar. >> impact over grammar. 236 00:18:19,487 --> 00:18:23,242 >> so responsive resolutions, one more time. We are talking 237 00:18:23,243 --> 00:18:28,750 about the context of the resolution. What it means in 238 00:18:28,751 --> 00:18:33,742 all of its ways. Not the exact words, not the work we might use 239 00:18:33,992 --> 00:18:37,250 use, but what it's saying as a whole. 240 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:44,987 Are we on the same page? I want to remind us again, 15 minutes 241 00:18:44,988 --> 00:18:47,240 of conversation conversation. If no one stands at the mic for 242 00:18:47,241 --> 00:18:51,497 five minutes because we're ready to go, as of five sins of 243 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,502 discussion we can vote, and we will have more time. So here's 244 00:18:53,503 --> 00:18:58,991 what I would love people to do. Have people read the Standing 245 00:18:58,992 --> 00:19:01,997 on the Side of Love campaign inclusive? We said it out loud. 246 00:19:01,998 --> 00:19:04,753 We're going to start the clock. 247 00:19:07,988 --> 00:19:10,243 Attorney two minutes and talk to your neighbor. Two minutes. 248 00:19:10,493 --> 00:19:12,748 Talk to your neighbor about what it means for you and then we're 249 00:19:12,749 --> 00:19:19,237 going to ask people to come to the pro mic. I have an 250 00:19:19,238 --> 00:19:23,995 additional mic, and we'll see if there's any procedural. 251 00:21:41,502 --> 00:21:43,993 >> all right. I want to make two announcements to begin with. 252 00:21:43,994 --> 00:21:47,001 First, if you want to do an amendment, amendment forms are 253 00:21:47,002 --> 00:21:53,011 coming and please stop by the tech deck, this table right 254 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:55,244 here, and let them know in advance so that they can type it 255 00:21:55,745 --> 00:22:02,506 up. All righty? That's one. Someone asked yesterday ask we 256 00:22:02,507 --> 00:22:05,761 forgot to see it. When we see the off-site delegates, that's 257 00:22:05,762 --> 00:22:11,999 the off-site delegate. That's not you all all. It's 258 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,254 percentages of the off-site delegates. 259 00:22:22,752 --> 00:22:25,509 I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. 260 00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:30,243 >> Thank you. My name is Reverend Teresa Inosoto. 261 00:22:30,995 --> 00:22:36,254 [Applause] Thank you, friends. I am nine 262 00:22:36,255 --> 00:22:41,013 interim minister at our UU congregation in Flint, Michigan. 263 00:22:41,014 --> 00:22:46,499 I'm here to offer this resolution, but we, as a 264 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,006 movement, and especially this UUA administration, consider a 265 00:22:50,007 --> 00:22:54,242 period of reflection for re-natch re-natching our justice 266 00:22:54,492 --> 00:22:59,000 campaign, Standing on the Side of Love. Some people will say, 267 00:22:59,001 --> 00:23:03,261 hey, that's a really good slogan . Are you getting rid of it? 268 00:23:03,762 --> 00:23:08,744 Don't you know it's a metaphor? But I want us to call to mind 269 00:23:08,745 --> 00:23:12,250 the words of Unitarian Universalist theologian Lewis 270 00:23:12,251 --> 00:23:17,010 Fisher Beals. He said this. People often ask where 271 00:23:17,011 --> 00:23:19,997 universalists stabbed on this issue or that, but the only true 272 00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:26,505 answer to this question is that we do not stand. We move. 273 00:23:26,506 --> 00:23:32,746 Today, with this resolution, we can consider how to broaden our 274 00:23:32,747 --> 00:23:36,251 welcome, how to value all kinds of work and all kinds of bodies. 275 00:23:36,252 --> 00:23:41,260 And General Assembly today, I'm asking you to rise up, to 276 00:23:41,261 --> 00:23:47,755 move toward this kind of action. Thank you. I love you. 277 00:23:48,255 --> 00:23:50,255 [Applause] 278 00:23:55,245 --> 00:23:57,999 >> I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic, often site 279 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,752 delegate. >> Off-site delegate Marietta 280 00:24:01,753 --> 00:24:05,512 tubman of UU fellowship in red redwood city, California. Can 281 00:24:05,513 --> 00:24:07,744 someone explain -- I believe she's asking a point of 282 00:24:07,745 --> 00:24:13,254 information. Can someone explain why autism is singled 283 00:24:13,255 --> 00:24:17,510 out and how it relates standing on the siding exclusionary 284 00:24:17,511 --> 00:24:19,244 language? >> so Teresa, would you like to 285 00:24:19,245 --> 00:24:27,505 answer the question? Teresa is going to answer the question 286 00:24:27,506 --> 00:24:30,993 >> Thank you, friends, for this question. It comes directly 287 00:24:30,994 --> 00:24:33,496 from community. People with autism have said don't call us 288 00:24:33,497 --> 00:24:36,002 that, like you would people with disabilities. Don't call us 289 00:24:36,003 --> 00:24:43,243 people with autism, because it's part of us, like our hair * or 290 00:24:43,244 --> 00:24:46,998 our eye color, and we want to be known as having this with us 291 00:24:46,999 --> 00:24:49,253 all the time. Now, the difference is when you see me in 292 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:52,259 my scooter, you know I have a physical disability. Often I 293 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:56,496 have to advocate for myself to be treated as a person. If your 294 00:24:56,497 --> 00:24:59,753 disability is different, then that person piece might not be 295 00:24:59,754 --> 00:25:04,008 appropriate for you. But the reason I'm using that language 296 00:25:04,009 --> 00:25:09,249 specifically is to because that's what people have asked 297 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:11,250 for. 298 00:25:12,756 --> 00:25:15,508 >> I recognize the delegate at the con mic. 299 00:25:15,509 --> 00:25:20,245 >> My name is Michael Scott. I am a delegate from the first 300 00:25:20,246 --> 00:25:25,757 universalist church of Rochester , New York. As an able-bodied 301 00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:29,513 white male, I approach the microphone with considerable 302 00:25:29,514 --> 00:25:36,250 trepidation. As a lover of poetry and religious language, 303 00:25:36,251 --> 00:25:41,759 however, I am afraid, afraid that almost any metaphor of 304 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,245 human interaction with the world will speak to abilities that 305 00:25:44,246 --> 00:25:49,002 not all people share. Since it is about our senses and our 306 00:25:49,003 --> 00:25:54,243 bodies that we all interact with the world. Open my eyes that I 307 00:25:55,996 --> 00:26:01,505 may see. Lift up mine eyes into the hills. But what if I 308 00:26:01,506 --> 00:26:07,746 can not see? Now, the ears of my ears awake, 309 00:26:10,751 --> 00:26:13,757 but what if we cannot hear? Women who run with the wolves. 310 00:26:13,758 --> 00:26:20,995 But what of those who cannot run? We just sang A beautiful 311 00:26:20,996 --> 00:26:27,006 new version of Jason Shelton's inspiring Phil, but still, we 312 00:26:27,007 --> 00:26:29,763 sang of hands joined together on a private new day. What of 313 00:26:29,764 --> 00:26:32,747 those who lack hands or for whom the bright brightness as a 314 00:26:32,748 --> 00:26:37,761 metaphor for good is an echo of white supremacy. 315 00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:44,243 I do not want in any way to belittle the pain that language 316 00:26:44,244 --> 00:26:48,250 so frequently causes. And again , I am very conscious myself of 317 00:26:48,251 --> 00:26:51,506 being in the privileged group. But I ask that we consider the 318 00:26:51,507 --> 00:26:55,746 possibility that prioritizeing inclusiveness may sometimes 319 00:26:55,747 --> 00:26:58,750 undermine our ability to powerfully articulate our faith. 320 00:26:58,751 --> 00:27:00,751 321 00:27:08,246 --> 00:27:10,749 >> I recognize the delegate the at the pro mic. 322 00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:14,757 >> I'm the Reverend Susan Fast, community minister affiliated 323 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:17,996 with the Unitarian Universalist church of Fort Myers, Florida, 324 00:27:17,997 --> 00:27:22,503 and the most recent president of equal access. I speak in 325 00:27:22,504 --> 00:27:27,260 support of this proposed responsive resolution. The 326 00:27:27,261 --> 00:27:33,251 problem is not simply about othering and the effect that has 327 00:27:33,501 --> 00:27:36,507 on me and so many people, although that effect is real and 328 00:27:37,008 --> 00:27:42,997 I would have thought that that would be sufficient reason to 329 00:27:42,998 --> 00:27:45,751 change it. But it is also about structural ableism and 330 00:27:45,752 --> 00:27:51,511 reinforcing attitudes that able or normative bodies and minds 331 00:27:51,512 --> 00:27:55,998 are superior to the rest of us. Our faith's public witness 332 00:27:55,999 --> 00:27:59,254 campaign should be a leader in confronting structural 333 00:27:59,255 --> 00:28:04,013 oppression instead we have been justifying it. This week we 334 00:28:04,014 --> 00:28:06,747 have been celebrating the 40th anniversary of the women in 335 00:28:06,748 --> 00:28:10,506 religion resolution, a resolution which, in its content 336 00:28:11,258 --> 00:28:16,017 , called for looking at the language, reexamining the 337 00:28:16,018 --> 00:28:18,246 language that we use because it perpetuated 338 00:28:22,253 --> 00:28:27,009 sexism. Now is the time for us to begin to do this work about 339 00:28:27,010 --> 00:28:29,010 ableism. [Applause] 340 00:28:38,258 --> 00:28:40,762 Is there a delegate at the procedural snake 341 00:28:40,763 --> 00:28:43,998 >> James Merrill, member of the Unitarian Universalist church 342 00:28:43,999 --> 00:28:46,754 of Ventura. And I understood the explanation of why the term 343 00:28:46,755 --> 00:28:51,763 autistic people was used in that order and I understood the 344 00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:54,747 logic of wanting not to be included with other people with 345 00:28:54,748 --> 00:28:57,002 disabilities. I still do not understand and I would like a 346 00:28:57,003 --> 00:29:01,259 clarification of the language or the rationale, why are autistic 347 00:29:02,011 --> 00:29:05,768 people listed at all? Because autism has nothing to do with 348 00:29:05,769 --> 00:29:08,251 the ability to stand or not. My autistic daughter is 349 00:29:08,252 --> 00:29:10,254 perfectly capable of standing and I don't understand the 350 00:29:10,255 --> 00:29:12,259 inclusion there. 351 00:29:19,998 --> 00:29:23,014 >> I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. 352 00:29:23,265 --> 00:29:26,769 >> thank you for this question. One of the things that we are 353 00:29:26,770 --> 00:29:31,748 examining as we dig in here is the fact that it's not just 354 00:29:31,749 --> 00:29:34,754 about standing or sitting. When I tell you that, I promise that 355 00:29:34,755 --> 00:29:40,512 it's true. One of the things that this language reinforces is 356 00:29:40,513 --> 00:29:44,751 the hierarchy in which able bodies are fantastic and 357 00:29:44,752 --> 00:29:47,757 disabled bodies are okay. 358 00:29:51,011 --> 00:29:53,265 And we get that that. In the way that the labor and the 359 00:29:53,266 --> 00:29:56,250 activism and the support of autistic people is devalue and 360 00:29:56,251 --> 00:30:01,010 had dehumanizeed within our movement, that's why we're 361 00:30:01,011 --> 00:30:08,749 together in community on this. >> I recognize the delegate at 362 00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:12,004 the procedural mic. >> My name is Aaron White from 363 00:30:12,005 --> 00:30:13,757 fourth Unitarian Universalist society in the City of New York. 364 00:30:13,758 --> 00:30:19,251 And my question is a further point of clarification, 365 00:30:19,252 --> 00:30:25,512 specifically Andy do understand the argument and explanation 366 00:30:25,513 --> 00:30:27,266 appreciated of why the phrase autistic people instead of 367 00:30:27,267 --> 00:30:31,754 people with autism, but I don't understand still why 368 00:30:31,755 --> 00:30:35,508 specifically autistic people are named here and not specific 369 00:30:35,509 --> 00:30:40,766 with other types of invisible disabilities. As a person who 370 00:30:40,767 --> 00:30:45,758 has posttraumatic stress disorder, that often affects my 371 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,512 ability to participate in justice oriented actions, and so 372 00:30:48,763 --> 00:30:52,269 unless we're going to name everyone that has invisible 373 00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:57,257 disabilities, I want to understand why just one is. 374 00:30:58,008 --> 00:31:00,008 [Applause] 375 00:31:15,267 --> 00:31:18,502 >> There was a question. There's a procedural question. 376 00:31:21,256 --> 00:31:24,759 >> thank you about that question. The language I used, 377 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,511 it's a wide range ever disabilities. I think a 378 00:31:26,512 --> 00:31:30,000 feasible amendment is to include specifically the Word 379 00:31:30,001 --> 00:31:34,006 non-parent or invisible, but that's why it says wide range, 380 00:31:34,007 --> 00:31:37,262 because it's not just about one kind or another. 381 00:31:48,008 --> 00:31:51,012 >> Procedural mic? >> Aaron White again from fourth 382 00:31:51,013 --> 00:31:53,016 UU. I really don't want to belabor 383 00:31:53,017 --> 00:31:59,018 the point. I do wanted to understand why one specific type 384 00:31:59,259 --> 00:32:03,767 of disability was named when others are not, because I think 385 00:32:03,768 --> 00:32:06,500 it's exclusion nare toy folks who have others. And I feel 386 00:32:06,501 --> 00:32:09,007 that way about it. >> so I think the suggestion was 387 00:32:09,508 --> 00:32:11,508 maybe to do a friendly amendment. 388 00:32:11,511 --> 00:32:13,513 >> Okay. Because I didn't understand that to be -- 389 00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:18,000 >> that was one of the suggestions. 390 00:32:18,001 --> 00:32:20,506 >> Thank you. I will do that. 391 00:32:31,001 --> 00:32:35,006 >> my name is reverend Findley C. Campbell with the First 392 00:32:35,007 --> 00:32:38,767 Unitarian Church Christian group . I am not fellowshipped by UUM 393 00:32:39,017 --> 00:32:46,758 A, but I am fellowshipped by UUC F. I call for the rejection of 394 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:48,759 this amendments 395 00:32:50,015 --> 00:32:51,517 or resolution not because I don't believe in love love, but 396 00:32:51,518 --> 00:32:55,001 because we have not shown love to a brother who has been pained 397 00:32:55,002 --> 00:32:59,507 in more ways than one. We were told to look at the context. 398 00:32:59,508 --> 00:33:04,019 The context is about love. No love has been shown it my 399 00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:07,253 brother Peter Morales who made a simple or horrible mistake, 400 00:33:07,254 --> 00:33:10,258 whatever you want to call it, and was, in my opinion, driven 401 00:33:10,259 --> 00:33:12,763 from office by hateful and cruel language language. 402 00:33:12,764 --> 00:33:15,267 >> So, I'm sorry. This is actually out of order. 403 00:33:15,268 --> 00:33:20,254 >> when Peter Morales -- >> I'm sorry. I honor your 404 00:33:20,255 --> 00:33:25,011 opinion, but this is not about that. This is about that you 405 00:33:25,012 --> 00:33:27,515 have something you'd like to say about this particular 406 00:33:27,516 --> 00:33:31,755 responsive resolution? We would love to hear it. 407 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:49,766 >> It, Madam moderator. I'm Reverend dawn fortune, interim 408 00:33:49,767 --> 00:33:52,772 minister at AYOT ministry in greater St. Louis at the 409 00:33:52,773 --> 00:33:56,001 Emmerson UU chapel and First Unitarian Church of Alton, 410 00:33:56,002 --> 00:33:59,760 Illinois. My pronouns are they and them. I am genderqueer, and 411 00:34:00,511 --> 00:34:05,520 I am here representing TRUST, the transgender religious 412 00:34:05,521 --> 00:34:07,501 professional Unitarian Universalists together. We 413 00:34:07,502 --> 00:34:13,014 officially endorse this responsive resolution written by 414 00:34:13,265 --> 00:34:16,019 one of our members and call on those here to pass it. On 415 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:21,004 Friday Friday, we affirmed here in this hall that one of the 416 00:34:21,005 --> 00:34:24,508 sources of our UU principles is not only words and deeds of 417 00:34:24,509 --> 00:34:27,264 prophetic women and men, but words and deeds of prophetic 418 00:34:27,265 --> 00:34:34,761 people of all genders. I lost my place. Including nonbinary 419 00:34:34,762 --> 00:34:36,762 people. We affirmed that the intention 420 00:34:40,024 --> 00:34:41,999 of the wording of Unitarian Universalism's second source was 421 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,509 to be inclusive, but that the yardstick had moved and that we 422 00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:49,767 are called now to a new affirmation and articulation of 423 00:34:49,768 --> 00:34:57,006 inclusivity. Now is the time for us to do the same thing with 424 00:34:57,007 --> 00:35:00,767 respect to the name of the most visible social justice campaign 425 00:35:00,768 --> 00:35:03,020 in our denomination's history. Those who name the campaign did 426 00:35:03,021 --> 00:35:06,500 not intend to exclude people with disabilities, yet for eight 427 00:35:06,501 --> 00:35:10,258 years many people have spoken out about the harm and the hurt 428 00:35:10,259 --> 00:35:16,769 it does for such a powerful and prophetic campaign to have this 429 00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:22,505 name. On Friday we answered the call of love to create 430 00:35:22,506 --> 00:35:26,512 inclusivity by changing really important words. Today trust 431 00:35:26,513 --> 00:35:31,251 asks you to do that again. Vote to open a discernment process 432 00:35:31,252 --> 00:35:35,006 that will lead to a new name for the campaign that represents 433 00:35:35,007 --> 00:35:38,013 the best and brightest of our faith faith's justice efforts to 434 00:35:38,514 --> 00:35:43,756 one that truly embodies the values of this campaign. Honor 435 00:35:43,757 --> 00:35:48,516 the prophetic words and deeds of people of all genders who stand 436 00:35:48,766 --> 00:35:52,524 , walk, roll, and sit on the side of love. Thank you. 437 00:35:53,025 --> 00:35:55,025 [Applause] 438 00:36:00,016 --> 00:36:02,018 >> I recognize the delegate at the procedure mic. 439 00:36:02,019 --> 00:36:06,253 >> I'm Karen Griffin, confirmed Unitarian Universalist 440 00:36:06,254 --> 00:36:10,761 congregation of Venice in Venice, Florida. I just have a 441 00:36:10,762 --> 00:36:14,517 point of question. This is a request for complete rebrand 442 00:36:14,518 --> 00:36:18,504 rebranding of a whole movement, which is going to cost money 443 00:36:18,505 --> 00:36:21,007 money, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just wonder 444 00:36:21,509 --> 00:36:26,266 ing, who is financially liable for this? Is it the UU UUA? Is 445 00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:31,758 it the movement? I mean, there's nothing in here that 446 00:36:31,759 --> 00:36:36,266 mentions any of that responsibility and I'm just 447 00:36:36,267 --> 00:36:40,273 wonder wondering, is it financially feasible for the 448 00:36:40,274 --> 00:36:42,505 movement to do this? >> so is there anybody here from 449 00:36:43,256 --> 00:36:49,767 the standing on the side of love campaign? No one can hear 450 00:36:49,768 --> 00:36:53,774 you. So if someone is talking, I need you to come to a mic if 451 00:36:53,775 --> 00:36:59,513 you have an answer to the question. Yes. 452 00:36:59,764 --> 00:37:02,268 >> Elandria? >> yes. 453 00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,006 >> there we go. Thank you, Elizabeth. Can you stand at the 454 00:37:07,256 --> 00:37:11,513 procedure mic and not the amendment mic, please? Thank 455 00:37:11,514 --> 00:37:13,516 you. >> This was closest. 456 00:37:13,517 --> 00:37:15,774 >> I know. Elizabeth went to the closest 457 00:37:19,258 --> 00:37:20,510 mic. >> appreciate -- And can you 458 00:37:20,511 --> 00:37:22,264 please introduce yourself? >> thank you. 459 00:37:22,265 --> 00:37:26,521 >> Elizabeth Winn. I do some interim work right now 460 00:37:26,522 --> 00:37:29,527 withstanding on the side of love as spiritual sustenance advisor 461 00:37:30,004 --> 00:37:35,763 and very grateful for all of this conversation and deep work 462 00:37:35,764 --> 00:37:41,273 and your moderation, Elandria. I'm afraid this is going to be 463 00:37:41,274 --> 00:37:45,508 an unsatisfying answer, which is that right now we are figuring 464 00:37:45,509 --> 00:37:51,767 out what we can say and commit to. I will say that as Nora and 465 00:37:51,768 --> 00:37:57,258 I said when we spoke about the campaign yesterday, was it just 466 00:37:57,259 --> 00:38:00,512 yesterday? Yesterday morning? We feel leak a change in 467 00:38:00,513 --> 00:38:06,254 language is passed -- past overdue. We are trying to 468 00:38:06,255 --> 00:38:09,510 figure out what we can say right now given our governance. I 469 00:38:09,511 --> 00:38:12,265 know that's not very satisfying. 470 00:38:17,024 --> 00:38:23,513 >> Thank you. I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 471 00:38:23,514 --> 00:38:29,273 >> Reverend Madelyn Campbell. I serve as interim minister of 472 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:32,258 bull run Unitarian Universalist. I am speaking as a member of 473 00:38:32,259 --> 00:38:38,020 the board of the Unitarian Unitarian Universalist Christian 474 00:38:38,021 --> 00:38:40,273 fellowship. As a point of personal privilege and 475 00:38:40,274 --> 00:38:43,758 clarification, we do not offer fellowship to ministers. 476 00:38:44,008 --> 00:38:46,514 >> thank you. [Applause] 477 00:38:50,770 --> 00:38:56,758 so I recognize the delegate at the con mic. Off-site delegate. 478 00:38:56,759 --> 00:38:58,759 479 00:39:03,018 --> 00:39:10,763 No? I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. I thought you 480 00:39:10,764 --> 00:39:13,767 said no. >> I asked for an off-site 481 00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:18,253 delegate. I do not have an off-site delegate. 482 00:39:18,254 --> 00:39:23,763 >> Madam moderator, I am Carolina yes regard Graham from 483 00:39:23,764 --> 00:39:26,770 the church of the larger fellowship and I am on the 484 00:39:26,771 --> 00:39:31,507 autism spectrum. Initially I came to oppose this resolution, 485 00:39:31,508 --> 00:39:35,011 but for -- I just feel it's not big enough, but one of the 486 00:39:35,012 --> 00:39:40,022 things I've learned here at this General Assembly is how white 487 00:39:40,023 --> 00:39:42,755 supremacy seeks to divide communities of color. As a 488 00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:46,765 white ally, I am often confused as to which leadership of color 489 00:39:46,766 --> 00:39:49,772 I should be following. And just what I've heard in the last few 490 00:39:50,022 --> 00:39:54,253 minutes, it is very, very clear to me that the leadership of 491 00:39:54,254 --> 00:39:57,510 Asia Hauser and Christine Rivera and the leaders in DRUUMM or 492 00:39:57,511 --> 00:40:00,515 whatever are the people who are leading this movement with 493 00:40:00,516 --> 00:40:03,272 Unitarian Universalism and I just want to say I know I'm not 494 00:40:03,273 --> 00:40:06,004 kind of saying what I was going to say when I got up here, but I 495 00:40:07,256 --> 00:40:09,509 just want to say it's really, really clear to me who's leading 496 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,265 this movement. So if anyone was confused about that, 497 00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:15,769 throughout this General Assembly, I just -- 498 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:21,767 >> Carolina, are you speaking to this amendment? 499 00:40:22,018 --> 00:40:24,273 >> I was speaking to the debate . 500 00:40:24,274 --> 00:40:26,280 >> do you have something you want to say about this amendment 501 00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:30,258 ? >> I am no longer opposing it. 502 00:40:30,759 --> 00:40:33,263 >> Great. Thank you. 503 00:40:38,272 --> 00:40:46,515 >> I recognize the next person to speak from the pro mic. 504 00:40:46,766 --> 00:40:48,769 >> This is a point of clarification. There's concern 505 00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:53,027 that the outcome of the resolution should be one 506 00:40:53,028 --> 00:40:56,512 specific change, but really it's a greater imaging that we're 507 00:40:56,513 --> 00:40:59,266 seeking. So if that means that we enter a period of reflection, 508 00:40:59,516 --> 00:41:04,522 that would meet the request. >> Thank you. 509 00:41:04,523 --> 00:41:09,263 >> I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. 510 00:41:09,264 --> 00:41:14,024 >> Hi. Meg Riley with the church of the larger fellowship. 511 00:41:14,025 --> 00:41:19,009 And the founding campaign Director of standing on the side 512 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:28,027 of love. Life called us on, y'all. Life calls us on. The 513 00:41:28,028 --> 00:41:30,758 tag line for Standing on the Side of Love is harnessing love 514 00:41:30,759 --> 00:41:35,768 love's power to stop oppression, exclusion, and violence. So 515 00:41:35,769 --> 00:41:40,279 let's do that. [Applause] 516 00:41:46,011 --> 00:41:52,271 >> So I would like to remind everyone, thank you recon mic? 517 00:41:52,272 --> 00:41:56,513 Okay. I recognize the delegate at the con mic. 518 00:41:56,763 --> 00:42:05,029 >> I will vote against this. As a person -- I'm Marie Hauk, 519 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:08,510 from the Unitarian Universalist church of Greensboro, North 520 00:42:08,511 --> 00:42:11,515 Carolina. As a person who doesn't go to rallies and such 521 00:42:11,516 --> 00:42:16,775 because I can't count on my body to be cooperative, but the 522 00:42:16,776 --> 00:42:21,013 literal definition of stand, there are 20 in mereum Webster. 523 00:42:21,014 --> 00:42:25,020 Only one of which has to do with physical ability. I don't 524 00:42:25,021 --> 00:42:28,275 believe in this case stand is a metaphor. I believe that it 525 00:42:28,276 --> 00:42:34,012 really means to take a stand, to take a position. And I believe 526 00:42:34,013 --> 00:42:38,019 that spending time and money to change that language language, 527 00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:43,009 to change the logo, to change the T-shirts is a waste of 528 00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:47,017 energy when we should be focusing on what we're actually 529 00:42:47,018 --> 00:42:49,018 doing. [Applause] 530 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:04,525 >> So there's been an ask that if the people who are going to 531 00:43:04,526 --> 00:43:07,259 suggest amendments can come to the amendment table so they can 532 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:10,014 be consolidated can't to work with, if that is okay okay. 533 00:43:12,017 --> 00:43:16,526 Thank you. Because we're almost there. So if you could -- 534 00:43:16,527 --> 00:43:21,265 perfect. We got it? Okay. I recognize the delegate at the 535 00:43:21,266 --> 00:43:24,271 pro mic. >> Hello. I'm the Reverend 536 00:43:24,272 --> 00:43:26,774 Barbara Meyers from mission peak Unitarian Universalist 537 00:43:26,775 --> 00:43:30,258 congregation in Fremont, California. I have been 538 00:43:30,259 --> 00:43:36,017 working with equal access and the wonderful people that were 539 00:43:36,018 --> 00:43:40,525 involved ever since it was formed, and I am in charge of 540 00:43:40,526 --> 00:43:45,264 establishing the accessibility and inclusion ministry. I 541 00:43:45,265 --> 00:43:48,769 couldn't be prouder of the people that have spoken about 542 00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:55,510 taking action on making our social justice campaign more 543 00:43:55,511 --> 00:43:58,516 inclusive. And I he know surge you to support it. Thank you. 544 00:43:59,518 --> 00:44:01,518 [Applause] >> I recognize the delegate 545 00:44:04,277 --> 00:44:08,762 at the con mic. >> Hi. I'm Jeff Stein from 546 00:44:08,763 --> 00:44:13,268 Unitarian Universalist church of Nashville. I, too, as an old 547 00:44:13,269 --> 00:44:18,259 white man, stand up here with a lot of trepidation, like the 548 00:44:18,260 --> 00:44:24,769 fellow before me. I am a writer . I have spent my life in 549 00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:26,770 communications 550 00:44:28,026 --> 00:44:33,512 . I am, as I've listened so much to this, I have been so 551 00:44:33,513 --> 00:44:37,770 supportive of everything metaphorically and actually as 552 00:44:37,771 --> 00:44:43,259 the woman before me said, in terms of all the definition of 553 00:44:43,260 --> 00:44:49,520 standing on the side of love, have supported it. I 57 so 554 00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:56,263 concerned that we start to be Pi cuyene about the choice of words 555 00:44:56,514 --> 00:45:01,270 that we start to get into the area of censorship. That we are 556 00:45:01,521 --> 00:45:08,010 going to be tiptoeing on egg shells constantly, that this is 557 00:45:08,011 --> 00:45:17,277 going to become, as the woman before we said, a Marge and 558 00:45:17,278 --> 00:45:24,021 device and I have Connelly waste of energy when the met on 559 00:45:24,022 --> 00:45:31,013 forces that we are living by and acting on are there. I live by 560 00:45:31,263 --> 00:45:35,020 metaphor and I become concerned when my 561 00:45:38,777 --> 00:45:45,015 denomination starts to strike those metaphors down. 562 00:45:45,516 --> 00:45:48,020 [Applause] I recognize the delegate at the 563 00:45:48,021 --> 00:45:50,774 procedure mic. >> Thank you, Madam moderator, 564 00:45:50,775 --> 00:45:53,780 Carolina yes regard Graham from the church of the larger 565 00:45:53,781 --> 00:45:57,768 fellowship. I am coordinating off-site delegates for allies 566 00:45:57,769 --> 00:46:00,524 for racial equity and I have some of our off-site delegates 567 00:46:00,525 --> 00:46:03,029 saying there's a slight delay and they'd like to know, I know 568 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:08,268 that the tech team has been a little short today and we grief. 569 00:46:08,269 --> 00:46:11,024 Whom do they contact about that day on the ground? That 570 00:46:11,025 --> 00:46:19,764 was the question sent to me. >> What I can do is just wait, 571 00:46:19,765 --> 00:46:21,768 pause before we go. >> that, I think, would help.>> 572 00:46:21,769 --> 00:46:23,522 I'm hoping that will be sufficient. 573 00:46:23,523 --> 00:46:29,033 >> okay. So did everyone hear? Before we start, we need to 574 00:46:29,034 --> 00:46:32,015 pause before we go. I want to say one other thing about what 575 00:46:32,016 --> 00:46:34,271 it means to be doing this in a theological 576 00:46:37,272 --> 00:46:39,774 faith space. Everything we talk about actually impacts 577 00:46:39,775 --> 00:46:45,766 people in the room room. Right? So this is what I want to say. 578 00:46:45,767 --> 00:46:48,773 You see I'm sitting here on this nice chair, because I can't 579 00:46:49,274 --> 00:46:54,512 stand anymore. For everything we're going to discuss today, 580 00:46:54,513 --> 00:47:00,273 and I come from a culture that collapses a lot. It does mean, 581 00:47:00,274 --> 00:47:06,262 though, that it actually could say to somebody whether they're 582 00:47:06,263 --> 00:47:11,771 valued or not, even in our clapping. So for us to really 583 00:47:11,772 --> 00:47:16,529 hold tight to what does it mean to love everybody in this space, 584 00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:19,264 regardless, and so that we're not saying, yah, we believe in 585 00:47:19,265 --> 00:47:24,024 you, but not really, for however people believe. Does that make 586 00:47:24,274 --> 00:47:28,030 sense? Okay. So I'm not saying to not show your 587 00:47:28,031 --> 00:47:30,513 appreciation, but just hold that we are in a faith movement with 588 00:47:31,013 --> 00:47:35,270 each other and that means we show up differently than maybe 589 00:47:35,271 --> 00:47:37,775 we should in other places, although I think we should show 590 00:47:37,776 --> 00:47:44,265 up the same way there, too. So we're going to take a one-second 591 00:47:44,266 --> 00:47:48,525 pause. And I recognize the delegate from the -- hold on. 592 00:47:49,275 --> 00:47:53,531 Procedure mic. There you go. >> thanks. Yes. I am the 593 00:47:53,532 --> 00:47:58,017 Reverend Matthew Mikhail. I serve Emmerson Unitarian 594 00:47:58,018 --> 00:48:00,772 Universalist church in Los Angeles and I have a question, 595 00:48:00,773 --> 00:48:05,029 which is use this responsive resolution say that we cannot 596 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:08,516 use words like standing or looking or whatever the case may 597 00:48:09,018 --> 00:48:13,025 be in any case whatsoever or does it only ask us to rename or 598 00:48:13,525 --> 00:48:17,533 to look at the possibility of renaming our justice campaigns 599 00:48:17,534 --> 00:48:21,271 that so much of our justice work rests under? 600 00:48:21,521 --> 00:48:26,532 >> it is just about renaming the justice campaign that our work 601 00:48:26,533 --> 00:48:28,784 sets under. >> great. Then we should support it. 602 00:48:28,785 --> 00:48:30,015 [Laughter] >> Okay. 603 00:48:30,016 --> 00:48:34,525 >> out of order. >> goodness gracious. 604 00:48:40,035 --> 00:48:44,269 I recognize the delegate from the con mic. 605 00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:48,529 >> Sally Gellert, central Unitarian church, Paramus, New 606 00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:53,787 Jersey. I note that SURG had this conversation and we're told 607 00:48:54,016 --> 00:49:02,029 that standing up for racial justice was okay. I also want 608 00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:08,018 to quote a lyric saying sitting in and laying down are ways to 609 00:49:08,019 --> 00:49:11,774 take a stand. And also, twinkle's work instead of using 610 00:49:11,775 --> 00:49:18,767 time to applaud. >> I want to remind -- 611 00:49:18,768 --> 00:49:22,020 >> I want to remind everybody that there are people who cannot 612 00:49:22,021 --> 00:49:25,527 hear well if everyone else is talking while they are. So if 613 00:49:25,528 --> 00:49:28,782 we can please make sure that everyone around us can hear at 614 00:49:28,783 --> 00:49:31,768 the same time. Thank you. I recognize the delegate at the 615 00:49:31,769 --> 00:49:33,772 pro mic. >> Thank you. My name is Alex 616 00:49:33,773 --> 00:49:38,032 maider Winette, delegate from the First Unitarian Church in 617 00:49:38,033 --> 00:49:42,015 Oakland in beautiful downtown Oakland, California. Thank you. 618 00:49:42,016 --> 00:49:45,273 And I'm a student at the pative I can school of religion 619 00:49:45,274 --> 00:49:51,030 in Berkley. I approach the pro mic about an attitude of 620 00:49:51,031 --> 00:49:56,772 confession and contrition. From 2007 to 2009, I had the 621 00:49:56,773 --> 00:50:00,026 privilege and honor to serve in the Washington office for 622 00:50:00,027 --> 00:50:04,536 advocacy, and one of the roles I took on was to help make, with 623 00:50:04,537 --> 00:50:08,521 the launch team. Now, in one of our early meetings, one of our 624 00:50:08,522 --> 00:50:14,279 members, Lisa Swanson, a Beloved colleague with disabilities in 625 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,285 their hands, mentioned that they thought that the language we 626 00:50:17,286 --> 00:50:24,025 were using was exclusionary and ableist. I dismissed their 627 00:50:24,026 --> 00:50:28,785 claims and ultimately went with the language as was proposed. I 628 00:50:29,285 --> 00:50:36,026 now realize that was wrong and I apologize. I do not believe 629 00:50:36,027 --> 00:50:40,033 that we were working out of ill faith or bad intend or malice, 630 00:50:40,034 --> 00:50:45,771 but rather through unchecked bias and I apologize for that as 631 00:50:46,021 --> 00:50:49,277 well. I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished in eight 632 00:50:49,278 --> 00:50:50,779 years. We've done so much withstand withstanding on the 633 00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:57,021 side of love, but I think it's time for us to reaccess the 634 00:50:57,022 --> 00:51:01,527 language we use, the images, the metaphor metaphors, and take 635 00:51:01,528 --> 00:51:06,515 the courage to find new ways to be and answer the call of love. 636 00:51:06,516 --> 00:51:12,026 So I ask the delegation to call the question and support this 637 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:17,035 proposal. Thank you. [Applause] 638 00:51:17,036 --> 00:51:20,018 >> So I would like to make an announce meant. We have 30 639 00:51:20,019 --> 00:51:27,782 minutes to do all three of these. If we're going to stay 640 00:51:27,783 --> 00:51:31,266 on time, if we're going to stay on time, we have 30 minutes to 641 00:51:31,267 --> 00:51:35,023 do three responsive resolutions. Okay? So I'm just putting the 642 00:51:35,024 --> 00:51:38,029 announcement out there so that people know what time we're at 643 00:51:38,030 --> 00:51:41,537 and what we're looking at, because sometimes, yet again, we 644 00:51:41,787 --> 00:51:45,019 forget timing. I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 645 00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:50,777 >> Thank you, Madam tri-mod. Wendy Von courter, for a few 646 00:51:50,778 --> 00:51:53,782 more hours, co-chair of the journey toward wholeness whole 647 00:51:54,016 --> 00:51:56,769 ness transformation team, delegate from marblehead, 648 00:51:56,770 --> 00:51:59,023 Massachusetts Massachusetts, and former member of the UUA 649 00:51:59,024 --> 00:52:02,279 accessibilities Committee. Somebody asked a very good 650 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,784 question, and this is for a point of clarification, somebody 651 00:52:04,785 --> 00:52:08,270 asked about whether this language and focus on detracts 652 00:52:08,271 --> 00:52:12,780 from our doing. Might we have a brief report from the equal 653 00:52:12,781 --> 00:52:18,266 access folks about what it is we're doing in terms of our 654 00:52:18,267 --> 00:52:23,024 accessibility sensitivities here at General Assembly? Thank 655 00:52:23,025 --> 00:52:25,029 you. >> I recognize the delegate at 656 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:28,788 the procedural mic. >> thank you, tri-mod rater. My 657 00:52:29,038 --> 00:52:32,770 name is reverend sunshine Jeremiah wolf and I am the 658 00:52:32,771 --> 00:52:35,774 interim minister at May memorial Unitarian Universalist society 659 00:52:35,775 --> 00:52:40,031 in Syracuse, New York. I offer a point of clarification that 660 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,520 surge stands for showing up for racial justice, not standing up 661 00:52:46,524 --> 00:52:49,528 . Showing up. >> I recognize the delegate at 662 00:52:49,529 --> 00:52:54,516 the procedure mic. >> my name is Reverend Jennifer 663 00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:59,525 gray. I serve our congregation in Danville, Indiana. The UU 664 00:52:59,526 --> 00:53:02,782 community church of Hendricks county. And I'm looking at the 665 00:53:02,783 --> 00:53:05,538 two lines and I would like to call the question. 666 00:53:10,525 --> 00:53:12,027 >> Is there a second? >> Second. 667 00:53:12,028 --> 00:53:18,270 >> okay. So we are voting whether or not to vote on the 668 00:53:18,271 --> 00:53:20,271 question. 669 00:53:21,526 --> 00:53:26,036 So news everyone have their delegate cards ready? Yes? My 670 00:53:26,536 --> 00:53:35,528 fellow tri-mod? Help me? This takes two-thirds. So all of 671 00:53:35,529 --> 00:53:41,294 those in favor of voting on this responsive resolution now, 672 00:53:41,295 --> 00:53:44,025 please raise your cards. 673 00:53:50,785 --> 00:53:58,777 All those opposed? We are waiting on the final count. 96% 674 00:54:02,785 --> 00:54:06,771 in favor. It passes passes. All righty. So we're now going 675 00:54:06,772 --> 00:54:15,036 to vote. Now we're on the main motion. Here we go. We are now 676 00:54:15,037 --> 00:54:20,025 voting on the main motion. And there will be no amendments. 677 00:54:20,275 --> 00:54:27,036 All right. So all those in favor that be it resolved that 678 00:54:27,037 --> 00:54:30,270 the 2017 General Assembly call upon the leaders of the UUA 679 00:54:30,271 --> 00:54:33,529 standing on the side of love campaign to create a new 680 00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:37,784 Imagining that better includes and reflects the needs and 681 00:54:37,785 --> 00:54:41,289 contributions of disabled people . All those in favor, please 682 00:54:41,290 --> 00:54:43,523 raise your cards. 683 00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:54,519 . All of those opposed? We're waiting on the off-site 684 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,520 off-site. 685 00:54:59,778 --> 00:55:06,771 90% to 10. It passes. One thing done. 686 00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:17,539 >> Okay. We're going to go to combating income inequality, and 687 00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:22,276 I'm going to wait for the off-site delegate cue to clear. 688 00:55:22,277 --> 00:55:24,277 689 00:55:30,521 --> 00:55:32,524 And I'm going to recognize the delegate 690 00:55:36,030 --> 00:55:39,535 . >> thank you. My I'm Fred Van 691 00:55:39,536 --> 00:55:44,778 Doosen, member of first parish in concord, Massachusetts. I'm 692 00:55:44,779 --> 00:55:47,782 the author ever this resolution. We have an active group in 693 00:55:47,783 --> 00:55:51,039 concord that's been working on the topic of escalating 694 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,545 inequality for the last three years. We're quite well 695 00:55:54,274 --> 00:55:57,282 -grounded on these issues. It's abundantly clear to us that 696 00:55:57,533 --> 00:56:01,286 the issues of escalating inequality and white supremacy 697 00:56:01,287 --> 00:56:06,273 strongly intersect in their causes and concerns. They're 698 00:56:06,274 --> 00:56:09,279 together deeply ingrained in our American culture and need to be 699 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,536 worked on together. It will require a huge and well 700 00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:19,775 coordinated strategic effort to make any lasting progress on 701 00:56:19,776 --> 00:56:23,280 these issues. It will involve many groups working together 702 00:56:23,281 --> 00:56:26,537 effectively to build a large and powerful movement. We need to 703 00:56:26,538 --> 00:56:31,025 mobileize and we need to start soon. If will be very 704 00:56:31,026 --> 00:56:35,282 difficult, if not impossible, to do this without incredible, 705 00:56:35,283 --> 00:56:37,283 well positioned leadership that's able to pull together the 706 00:56:37,287 --> 00:56:40,542 talent, ideas, and strategic relationships necessary to be 707 00:56:40,543 --> 00:56:43,776 successful. This week we've been blessed to observe the 708 00:56:43,777 --> 00:56:47,785 ability of the UUA board and staff members to pull together 709 00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:51,540 three superb temporary co-president and his many 710 00:56:51,541 --> 00:56:54,523 wonderful and knowledgeable speakers and leaders. I'm 711 00:56:54,524 --> 00:56:57,530 strongly convince that had if we focus our attention and work 712 00:56:57,531 --> 00:57:01,287 together on these critical issues and a well thought out, 713 00:57:01,288 --> 00:57:06,524 coordinated manner, we can make an enormous difference in this 714 00:57:06,525 --> 00:57:10,030 country. This work must be done and we all can play a major 715 00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:13,285 role if we have the courage to do so. I hope we're willing to 716 00:57:13,286 --> 00:57:18,525 step out of our comfort zones. I certainly am now. And do this 717 00:57:19,025 --> 00:57:22,530 terribly important working the work that we do ex-turn I will 718 00:57:22,531 --> 00:57:27,290 help us with the work we Snead to do internally. They're 719 00:57:27,291 --> 00:57:30,524 synergistic. I ask you to approve this resolution. 720 00:57:30,525 --> 00:57:34,529 >> thank you. I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 721 00:57:34,781 --> 00:57:37,537 >> Peter Candace, UU congregation of the Lowcountry 722 00:57:37,538 --> 00:57:41,544 in South Carolina. I would ask the Moderators, in another 723 00:57:41,545 --> 00:57:46,030 instance, if we call the vote to let the delegates know that 724 00:57:46,031 --> 00:57:49,786 we're then not going to be able to vote on the amendments. I 725 00:57:49,787 --> 00:57:54,524 think that that may well influence the vote. Thank you. 726 00:57:54,525 --> 00:57:56,525 >> 727 00:57:57,531 --> 00:58:01,539 so noted. I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 728 00:58:01,789 --> 00:58:04,543 729 00:58:04,544 --> 00:58:09,531 again from Venice, Florida. I have a question on this proposal 730 00:58:11,534 --> 00:58:15,038 . I'm still concerned that we are not addressing the issues of 731 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:20,279 the cultural biases in our own congregations when it comes to 732 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:28,040 income inequity, and is this work that you're asking a 733 00:58:28,041 --> 00:58:31,276 commission to lead on ex-personally focused 734 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,782 or also internally focus today deal with our own cultural 735 00:58:36,783 --> 00:58:41,290 biased within our congregations? 736 00:58:41,291 --> 00:58:43,776 >> I recognize the delegate at the pro mic to answer the 737 00:58:43,777 --> 00:58:46,530 question. >> Yeah. Fred Van Doosen again. 738 00:58:46,531 --> 00:58:50,037 I think we're pretty well focused. This is meant to be 739 00:58:50,038 --> 00:58:54,525 both actually, in a sense. I think the external focus will 740 00:58:54,526 --> 00:58:57,280 help our internal focus. By working on these issues, both 741 00:58:57,281 --> 00:58:59,784 internally and externally at the same time, I think that 742 00:58:59,785 --> 00:59:03,292 actually helps both. >> okay. Is there going to be 743 00:59:03,293 --> 00:59:06,273 -- >> I recognize the delegate at 744 00:59:06,274 --> 00:59:09,027 the procedural mic. >> Me again, Karen. Is there 745 00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:12,533 going to be an intentional work within the congregations to deal 746 00:59:12,783 --> 00:59:18,274 with cultural biases within the congregations? I mean, are we 747 00:59:18,333 --> 00:59:21,277 calling for intentional work? >> I think that's part of the 748 00:59:21,278 --> 00:59:26,288 other is work that's going on here. In this whole GA. So 749 00:59:26,289 --> 00:59:28,794 this was specifically to make sure we are doing something 750 00:59:28,795 --> 00:59:32,529 externally as well. >> Okay. 751 00:59:35,533 --> 00:59:40,541 >> I recognize the off-site delegate at the procedural mic. 752 00:59:40,542 --> 00:59:47,534 >> this is from Dave Michael, east shore Unitarian 753 00:59:47,535 --> 00:59:51,042 Universalist church in Kirkland, Ohio. Move to change the rules 754 00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:54,774 , change the 15 minute discussion rule before 755 00:59:54,775 --> 01:00:02,786 amendments to 10 minutes. >> I'm going to take a little 756 01:00:02,787 --> 01:00:06,275 break. Talk with my parliamentary team. I know what 757 01:00:06,525 --> 01:00:10,283 to do. I just need to give a response. 758 01:01:04,546 --> 01:01:07,025 >> The motion is in order T takes a two-thirds majority vote 759 01:01:07,026 --> 01:01:12,286 to amend the rules. So we will be doing that now. All those 760 01:01:12,287 --> 01:01:19,275 in favor of amending the rules, do we have a second? 761 01:01:19,526 --> 01:01:22,030 >> second. >> There we go. All right. 762 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,285 It's not debated annual. This takes a two-thirds majority vote 763 01:01:25,286 --> 01:01:30,023 in order to amend the rules so that there is a 10-minute 764 01:01:30,024 --> 01:01:33,281 discussion timeline as opposed to 15-minute discussion timeline 765 01:01:33,782 --> 01:01:36,537 . All those in favor of amending the rules for a shorter 766 01:01:37,790 --> 01:01:41,548 time frame, please raise your voting cards now. 767 01:01:48,783 --> 01:01:51,537 All those opposed? 768 01:01:55,527 --> 01:01:58,029 I'm waiting on the off-site delegates. They're still 769 01:01:58,030 --> 01:02:03,035 getting some things in. They've asked me for a longer delay 770 01:02:03,036 --> 01:02:05,036 period. 771 01:02:11,283 --> 01:02:15,040 Please closed cue for the off-site delegates. 772 01:02:22,032 --> 01:02:26,539 Okay. The motion to amend the rules passes. We will now have 773 01:02:29,546 --> 01:02:31,525 10 minutes of discussion before we move to the ability to make 774 01:02:31,526 --> 01:02:37,786 amendments. Everyone understand? I recognize the 775 01:02:37,787 --> 01:02:44,026 delegate at the con microphone. 776 01:02:44,027 --> 01:02:47,531 >> Thank you, Mr. Moderator. Steve Buckingham from the 777 01:02:47,532 --> 01:02:50,537 Frederick, Maryland, UU congregation. While I familiar 778 01:02:50,538 --> 01:02:59,285 support of the social -- the activity we've taken on economic 779 01:02:59,536 --> 01:03:04,044 inequality at this session, after lots of debate and work, I 780 01:03:04,045 --> 01:03:09,030 feel that this is not the time for us to single out economic 781 01:03:09,031 --> 01:03:15,290 inequity, because it is part of a intersection Al at this with 782 01:03:15,291 --> 01:03:19,275 racism and other issues -- intersection Al at this with 783 01:03:19,276 --> 01:03:21,531 racism and other issues. We have a new administration taking 784 01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:27,790 office now. They will need to get the guidance and leadership 785 01:03:27,791 --> 01:03:31,777 from affected communities before they decide how to approach 786 01:03:31,778 --> 01:03:40,038 helping congregations with this work, and I believe this is an 787 01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:44,528 unnecessary additional step to isolate economic inequity and 788 01:03:44,529 --> 01:03:47,034 not treat it as part of the greater cultural 789 01:03:47,035 --> 01:03:51,040 intersectionality that is the whole subject of this it General 790 01:03:51,041 --> 01:03:56,277 Assembly has been. >> Thank you. I recognize the 791 01:03:56,278 --> 01:03:59,782 delegate at the pro microphone. >> My name is Earl Daniels. I 792 01:03:59,783 --> 01:04:02,036 am a member, a delegate from high street Unitarian 793 01:04:02,037 --> 01:04:09,780 Universalist in Macon, Georgia. We do a lot of good work at GA 794 01:04:09,781 --> 01:04:12,786 and we go home and oftentimes smaller congregations like mine 795 01:04:12,787 --> 01:04:17,293 have a difficult time in actually implementing some of 796 01:04:17,294 --> 01:04:22,031 these projects and resolutions and to fulfill the intentions. 797 01:04:24,285 --> 01:04:27,040 I would like this resolution to pass so we have an extra impetus 798 01:04:28,794 --> 01:04:33,528 to have people designated and people very intentional about 799 01:04:33,529 --> 01:04:37,788 going to the congregations and give them the work they need to 800 01:04:37,789 --> 01:04:45,779 do this work. Thank you. >> before I recognize the delegate 801 01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:49,537 at the con microphone, again, a simple reminder that we have 802 01:04:49,538 --> 01:04:54,523 about 10 minutes to do the remaining two responsive 803 01:04:54,524 --> 01:04:59,034 resolutions. * without extending time. Keep that in 804 01:04:59,035 --> 01:05:06,026 your mind as you do that. I now recognize the delegate at the 805 01:05:06,027 --> 01:05:08,782 con microphone. >> Marie cob, First Unitarian 806 01:05:08,783 --> 01:05:11,036 society of Chicago. 807 01:05:15,795 --> 01:05:24,037 The statement of conscience draft, it doesn't mention 808 01:05:28,793 --> 01:05:32,527 -- it does not address the root cause of inequality or its 809 01:05:32,528 --> 01:05:38,034 impact on democracy. It does not challenge our current 810 01:05:38,035 --> 01:05:40,038 economic system. 811 01:05:44,027 --> 01:05:49,536 Only wealth inequality, not income inequality, and I think 812 01:05:49,537 --> 01:05:52,043 that's one of the reasons I have to vote against it. Thank you 813 01:05:52,293 --> 01:05:54,274 . >> thank you. I recognize the 814 01:05:54,275 --> 01:06:00,787 off-site delegate at the procedural microphone. 815 01:06:00,788 --> 01:06:04,045 >> Lisa Bickford, Jefferson Unitarian church in golden, 816 01:06:04,046 --> 01:06:07,526 Colorado. I move to extend time as the last one is the most 817 01:06:07,527 --> 01:06:10,534 important, in my book. 818 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,024 >> By how much does the delegate wish to extend Nile >> 819 01:06:18,025 --> 01:06:21,278 I do not have that. >> okay. If the delegate could 820 01:06:21,279 --> 01:06:24,034 come back with, that I'll give you a second. I have someone 821 01:06:24,035 --> 01:06:27,040 else in the off-site line line, so I'll come back to that person 822 01:06:27,291 --> 01:06:33,029 and then you'll be third in line after that. I recognize 823 01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:35,034 the delegate at the procedural microphone. 824 01:06:35,284 --> 01:06:37,037 >> Michael Scott, first Unitarian Universalist, 825 01:06:37,038 --> 01:06:40,794 Rochester, New York. Could someone from the CSW briefly 826 01:06:40,795 --> 01:06:44,779 remind us what the normal procedure is for 827 01:06:50,537 --> 01:06:53,793 implementing a procedure of conscience and how that would be 828 01:06:54,024 --> 01:06:56,028 changed by this current proposal? do we have a 829 01:06:56,029 --> 01:07:03,291 commissioner in the house? Come to the pro mic. 830 01:07:07,778 --> 01:07:10,532 I recognize the commissioner at the pro microphone to respond to 831 01:07:10,782 --> 01:07:14,039 the delegate's question. >> Reverend Caitlin Cotter of 832 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,774 the Unitarian society of Santa Santa barber and outgoing 833 01:07:18,775 --> 01:07:25,287 chairman of social witness. As I understand it, and here on our 834 01:07:25,538 --> 01:07:27,538 chair at the other microphone microphone. My understanding is 835 01:07:27,543 --> 01:07:31,026 this would not significantly alter our process 836 01:07:34,030 --> 01:07:35,533 as everything is a recommendation and this would 837 01:07:35,534 --> 01:07:38,039 only be a statement of body as this is a statement of 838 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,542 conscience and another is on behalf of the Unitarian 839 01:07:40,543 --> 01:07:42,543 Universalism that went through a four-year process. Susan, am I 840 01:07:42,775 --> 01:07:47,535 right in that? >> I recognize the commissioner 841 01:07:47,785 --> 01:07:49,788 at the procedural mic. >> The statement of conscience 842 01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:53,041 has been adopted by this body and so basically, it is in 843 01:07:53,042 --> 01:07:59,534 effect as of the position of the Unitarian Universalist 844 01:07:59,535 --> 01:08:04,544 association broadly. The process a four-year study action 845 01:08:04,795 --> 01:08:07,525 process. There is one more year that's called an 846 01:08:07,526 --> 01:08:11,530 implementation year. At this time, during this year, the idea 847 01:08:12,282 --> 01:08:16,289 is to encourage congregations, because it is congregational 848 01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:24,034 study action to look at what the suggested accounts are within 849 01:08:24,035 --> 01:08:30,023 it and to take action and do it. But there are not staff 850 01:08:30,024 --> 01:08:35,535 resources any more than just some minimal staff support. So 851 01:08:35,536 --> 01:08:39,292 I'm not sure whether this resolution is having for 852 01:08:39,293 --> 01:08:44,279 something more substantial. >> Thank you. Before I 853 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:49,038 recognize the off-site delegate at the procedural mic, can the 854 01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:53,793 teller tell me if it is the same off-site delegate? We also 855 01:08:53,794 --> 01:08:57,074 need some clarity on whether it's an mornment time or time 856 01:08:57,075 --> 01:08:59,075 for discussion. 857 01:09:03,043 --> 01:09:06,023 If your motion is to extend at journalment time, our rules say 858 01:09:06,024 --> 01:09:09,781 that we are to adjourn by 3: 45:00 p.m. today. So if that is 859 01:09:09,782 --> 01:09:16,042 the motion you're making, we have not yet run out of time for 860 01:09:16,043 --> 01:09:19,777 this. I recognize the off-site procedural Mike. 861 01:09:20,028 --> 01:09:24,287 >> Lisa big Ford from golden, Colorado. I move to extend time 862 01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:27,544 to 30 minutes per responsive resolution. 863 01:09:27,545 --> 01:09:31,029 >> That's not in order at this time. 30 minutes for each 864 01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:37,792 responsive resolution has already ban lot. I recollect 865 01:09:37,793 --> 01:09:39,044 okay knees the delegate at the pro mic. 866 01:09:39,045 --> 01:09:42,031 >> I'm Reverend Amy Williams Clark. I serve our congregation 867 01:09:43,284 --> 01:09:48,294 at cedar Hursh Unitarian Universalist and I am speaking 868 01:09:48,295 --> 01:09:50,548 in favor of this, because 869 01:09:53,804 --> 01:09:57,537 there's intersection Al at this between poverty, holelessness, 870 01:09:57,538 --> 01:09:59,541 economic, as well as 871 01:10:03,299 --> 01:10:06,282 race im, sexism, and environmentalism. It's an 872 01:10:06,283 --> 01:10:07,784 intersection intersectional piece. It's an important piece 873 01:10:07,785 --> 01:10:10,792 to be talking about and to be studying and 874 01:10:15,049 --> 01:10:18,031 he's assigned to our partners in social justice work that this 875 01:10:18,032 --> 01:10:23,039 is something we are serious about and we want we want to 876 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,040 talk about. >> I recognize the delegate 877 01:10:27,299 --> 01:10:29,552 at the con mic. >> Hi. Shall I Gellert, 878 01:10:29,553 --> 01:10:34,542 central Unitarian, Paramus, New Jersey. I rise to speak against 879 01:10:34,793 --> 01:10:38,048 this motion or this resolution, I believe that there are 880 01:10:41,553 --> 01:10:44,035 many organizations who have this totally under control. 99 881 01:10:44,036 --> 01:10:48,293 rise, backbone campaign campaign, move to amend, anti- 882 01:10:48,544 --> 01:10:52,549 poverty met work in New Jersey Jersey. I'm sure you guys have 883 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:55,533 local ones. State advocacy organizations in those states 884 01:10:55,534 --> 01:11:03,045 that have them. Surely have partners. And I don't see the 885 01:11:03,046 --> 01:11:06,282 particular value -- >> we also have values for UU 886 01:11:06,283 --> 01:11:10,040 economic justice community. Go there. Thank you. 887 01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:14,798 >> He recognize the off-site delegate at the procedural mic. 888 01:11:14,799 --> 01:11:18,782 889 01:11:18,783 --> 01:11:22,037 Unitarian society of Hartford, Connecticut. I'm not sure if 890 01:11:22,038 --> 01:11:24,290 it's in order to call the question at this point. If it 891 01:11:24,291 --> 01:11:28,801 is, then I call the question. >> You've got another three 892 01:11:28,802 --> 01:11:36,540 minutes, Kathy. All right. Recognize the delegate at the 893 01:11:36,541 --> 01:11:38,293 pro mic. >> Amy Leona have the Unitarian 894 01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:41,550 Universalist church in liver more, California. I am strongly 895 01:11:42,282 --> 01:11:45,286 in support of this statement of conscience. I believe it is a 896 01:11:45,287 --> 01:11:50,293 vital step towards creating a more economically just community 897 01:11:50,294 --> 01:11:52,796 and societies. It's only a step, but it's something that we 898 01:11:53,047 --> 01:11:57,539 need to start working on as an association, as individual 899 01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:00,544 congregations as Welch the document does address 900 01:12:00,545 --> 01:12:07,534 intersectionality of economic inequality with racism, sexism 901 01:12:07,535 --> 01:12:14,800 sexism, and ability as well, so I just urge you to support this 902 01:12:14,801 --> 01:12:19,285 and I believe it is just a step that we all need to start 903 01:12:19,286 --> 01:12:25,296 working on and continuing and to take each of these. There's a 904 01:12:27,049 --> 01:12:29,803 list of options you can take and ways you can address these 905 01:12:29,804 --> 01:12:34,792 issues within your congregations and in society, and I urge 906 01:12:34,793 --> 01:12:38,047 everyone to take those to heart. To take those back to their 907 01:12:38,048 --> 01:12:43,543 communities as well. >> I recognize the delegate 908 01:12:46,545 --> 01:12:49,801 at the con mic. >> Reverend Dr. Fenley C. 909 01:12:49,802 --> 01:12:52,557 Campbell, First Unitarian Church of Chicago and also a member of 910 01:12:52,808 --> 01:12:59,048 UUJEC. I rise to object and to call people to vote against 911 01:12:59,049 --> 01:13:04,308 this proposal, because it gives an authority to the Board of 912 01:13:04,309 --> 01:13:07,546 trustees and the new leadership which I don't think they deserve 913 01:13:08,048 --> 01:13:11,804 . I believe that the confusion and disarray that has been 914 01:13:11,805 --> 01:13:15,559 manifested -- >> you are not speaking to the 915 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,043 merits of the resolution. Do you have any other reason that 916 01:13:18,044 --> 01:13:24,055 you with wish not to have this resolution pass? Okay. 917 01:13:24,056 --> 01:13:28,064 >> the other reason is that it is a neoracist document, because 918 01:13:28,315 --> 01:13:30,795 it refers to giving money to black businesses, black 919 01:13:30,796 --> 01:13:33,552 communities, rather than strictly to the poor and owe 920 01:13:33,553 --> 01:13:36,056 pressed communities. They are the one who needs it, not those 921 01:13:36,057 --> 01:13:40,064 who are part of the national bourgeoisie of this country. 922 01:13:40,065 --> 01:13:43,548 They don't need it. It's a waste of time to give it to them 923 01:13:43,798 --> 01:13:47,302 . We must specify more clearly, oppressed black communities, 924 01:13:47,303 --> 01:13:51,308 black businesses like McDonald's and others are dangerous forces 925 01:13:51,309 --> 01:13:53,562 of dietary poisoning in our communities communities. Why 926 01:13:53,563 --> 01:13:58,051 should we give them more money? The whole issue of inequality 927 01:13:58,052 --> 01:14:01,558 is grounded in a capitalist system and the Word capitalism 928 01:14:01,559 --> 01:14:05,314 does not even appear in the main document. In addition, by 929 01:14:05,315 --> 01:14:09,550 mixing in white supremacy, a false doctrine, a false 930 01:14:09,551 --> 01:14:11,556 doctrine, rather than sticking with the Word institutionalizeed 931 01:14:12,057 --> 01:14:18,297 racism, this fatally flaw this is idea. We will take parts of 932 01:14:18,298 --> 01:14:21,804 it certainly back to our congregation, because we fought 933 01:14:21,805 --> 01:14:27,065 very hard for a version that would be more inclusive. Black 934 01:14:27,066 --> 01:14:29,066 community, black businesses 935 01:14:30,548 --> 01:14:34,304 , et cetera, is already privilegeing, privilegeing an 936 01:14:34,305 --> 01:14:40,062 aspect. By eliminating the Word black working class 937 01:14:40,063 --> 01:14:46,556 communities we give cart blanche to every wealthy black 938 01:14:46,557 --> 01:14:49,309 capitalist. Thank you. >> I recognize the delegate at 939 01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:53,819 the procedural mic. >> Marcus Foliano, Peoria, 940 01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:56,553 Illinois, Unitarian Universalist church. I was asking a point 941 01:14:56,554 --> 01:15:01,060 of clarification. We made a motion to amend, to shorten the 942 01:15:01,061 --> 01:15:03,818 time for amendments to 10 minutes. You had mentioned that 943 01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:07,801 we only need three more minutes to call the question. So I'd 944 01:15:07,802 --> 01:15:13,313 like to make a motion that we set that at 10 minutes as well. 945 01:15:13,564 --> 01:15:18,549 >> * does that make sense? >> let me -- I'm going to 946 01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:19,803 consult. I want to give you a full answer. Okay? 947 01:15:19,804 --> 01:15:22,809 >> okay. Thanks. 948 01:15:38,562 --> 01:15:41,816 >> Marcus, is your question whether you can also call the 949 01:15:41,817 --> 01:15:44,802 question after 10 minutes? >> yes. 950 01:15:44,803 --> 01:15:46,055 >> that's correct, you can call the question after 10 minutes. 951 01:15:46,056 --> 01:15:49,812 That's what we did when we shortened the amount of time 952 01:15:49,813 --> 01:15:52,316 required for discussion. >> we did that for amendments. 953 01:15:52,317 --> 01:15:56,801 >> we did that all together. >> Oh, okay. Thank you. 954 01:15:56,802 --> 01:15:58,802 >> 955 01:16:00,811 --> 01:16:03,063 I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 956 01:16:03,064 --> 01:16:08,055 >> Hi. Nicki Moore, UU of marblehead, mass. You want me 957 01:16:08,056 --> 01:16:13,066 to say that again? Can you hear? Sorry. Hi. Nicki Moore 958 01:16:13,067 --> 01:16:20,306 of UU marble head. I propose that we limited any off topic 959 01:16:20,307 --> 01:16:23,063 subjects just immediately so we're not wasting much more time 960 01:16:23,564 --> 01:16:28,071 here. >> the Chair acknowledges the 961 01:16:28,072 --> 01:16:32,308 ability to be more an Serbtive in keeping us -- assertive in 962 01:16:32,309 --> 01:16:34,062 keeping us on topic. >> Thank you. I appreciat. I 963 01:16:34,063 --> 01:16:37,569 appreciate that, Greg. >> I recognize the commissioner 964 01:16:37,570 --> 01:16:41,074 at the procedural mic. >> Susan Goekler, actually 965 01:16:41,075 --> 01:16:44,806 delegate from the UU's of southern Delaware. Just want 966 01:16:44,807 --> 01:16:49,063 for clarify that we have already adopted the statement of 967 01:16:49,064 --> 01:16:51,820 conscience itself and that's not the resolution that is under 968 01:16:51,821 --> 01:16:57,808 consideration. So discussion about the content of the 969 01:16:57,809 --> 01:17:01,064 statements isn't really appropriate at this point. 970 01:17:01,065 --> 01:17:06,301 >> thank you. Do we have anyone else at the procedural mic 971 01:17:06,302 --> 01:17:11,811 discussing? All right. I recognize the delegation at the 972 01:17:11,812 --> 01:17:13,812 pro mic. 973 01:17:15,068 --> 01:17:22,059 >> Carolina Crevard Graham, also on the steering Committee 974 01:17:22,060 --> 01:17:25,314 for he can wet I. We have been in conversation with DRUUMM. 975 01:17:25,315 --> 01:17:28,068 We would urge you to support this. Although the language 976 01:17:28,069 --> 01:17:32,304 might not be perfect be the intent is there and I think the 977 01:17:32,305 --> 01:17:35,311 language -- we have full confidence that the language is 978 01:17:35,312 --> 01:17:37,816 going to make its way into what it really needs to be. We 979 01:17:37,817 --> 01:17:40,070 really, really urge you to support this. Thank you very 980 01:17:40,071 --> 01:17:42,071 much. >> 981 01:17:45,809 --> 01:17:49,817 I recognize the delegate at the amendment mic. 982 01:17:50,068 --> 01:17:54,552 >> Thank you, Moderator Boyd. I am Debra gray Boyd, but not 983 01:17:54,553 --> 01:17:56,057 related to you. >> no, you're not. 984 01:17:56,058 --> 01:17:59,312 >> And from the first Unitarian Universalist church of Columbus, 985 01:17:59,313 --> 01:18:04,573 Ohio. I am here today, because I am struggling with the depth 986 01:18:04,574 --> 01:18:07,310 and the complexity of things that already exist at the 987 01:18:07,311 --> 01:18:11,820 Unitarian Universalist association, and so I move to 988 01:18:11,821 --> 01:18:15,326 strike the phrase, to appointed a Committee. We have enough 989 01:18:15,327 --> 01:18:19,564 committees. I'm serving on one of your committees and I'm 990 01:18:19,565 --> 01:18:22,571 grateful to do that, but we have enough committees. We have a 991 01:18:22,572 --> 01:18:24,577 fabulous Unitarian Universalist staff staff. We have an amazing 992 01:18:25,578 --> 01:18:29,583 Unitarian Universalist board. And so this body can call on 993 01:18:29,584 --> 01:18:35,818 those folks directly without creating yet another layer for 994 01:18:35,819 --> 01:18:41,329 us to move through. It is my opinion that having so many 995 01:18:41,330 --> 01:18:43,330 different groups assigned 996 01:18:46,568 --> 01:18:48,823 to different smaller paths is not in our best interest. I 997 01:18:48,824 --> 01:18:52,829 therefore ask this body to strike, to appoint a Committee. 998 01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:55,312 >> second. >> 999 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,574 >> Okay. All right. Do we have that up on the screen? 1000 01:19:08,816 --> 01:19:10,820 All right. There we go. We have the amendment moved and 1001 01:19:10,821 --> 01:19:14,329 seconded. Is there any discussion on the amendment? If 1002 01:19:14,579 --> 01:19:19,060 you would like to discuss the amendment, I need to see folks 1003 01:19:19,061 --> 01:19:22,566 line up at the pro or con microphone. 1004 01:19:32,064 --> 01:19:34,568 I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. 1005 01:19:34,819 --> 01:19:36,819 >> Very briefly, considering this calls on our existing staff 1006 01:19:36,822 --> 01:19:38,822 to help us out, I 1007 01:19:41,581 --> 01:19:45,818 withdraw my -- if this passes, I think it's a good thing. 1008 01:19:46,069 --> 01:19:50,078 >> Anyone speaking against? 1009 01:19:53,585 --> 01:19:56,817 It sounds like you're ready to vote on this amendment. This is 1010 01:19:57,067 --> 01:20:02,575 a simple majority. All those in favor of striking the words 1011 01:20:02,576 --> 01:20:09,066 -- can I get that back up on screen, please? All those in 1012 01:20:09,067 --> 01:20:11,570 favor of strike to go appoint a Committee from responsive 1013 01:20:11,571 --> 01:20:16,832 resolution? Please indicate that by raising your delegate 1014 01:20:16,833 --> 01:20:26,076 cards now. All those opposed? Can we bring up the off-site? 1015 01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:34,818 Please closed off-site cue. That passes. Can I have a 1016 01:20:34,819 --> 01:20:37,825 backup on screen as amended? 1017 01:20:40,830 --> 01:20:44,064 There we go. I recognized delegate at the procedural mic. 1018 01:20:44,065 --> 01:20:47,321 >> Robin Stillwater from fourth universalist in New York City. 1019 01:20:47,571 --> 01:20:49,823 I would like a point of clarification. The motion that 1020 01:20:49,824 --> 01:20:53,079 we voted on a few moments ago to shorten the time when you can 1021 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,312 started making amendments to 10 minutes be the Word Wording of 1022 01:20:56,313 --> 01:21:01,072 that was to shorten the time to allow amendments to be made, not 1023 01:21:01,073 --> 01:21:03,825 motions, to table, refer, or to call the question. If the 1024 01:21:03,826 --> 01:21:10,067 wording was intended to shorten the time also for allowing 1025 01:21:10,068 --> 01:21:12,070 motions or taking, referring, and calling the questions, I 1026 01:21:12,071 --> 01:21:14,573 would have voted differently. However, the Wording of the 1027 01:21:14,574 --> 01:21:16,829 motion did not reflect that. And I would like a clarification 1028 01:21:17,580 --> 01:21:22,568 on what exactly we voted on. >> the ruling of the tri-mod 1029 01:21:22,569 --> 01:21:27,828 rate certify that the intent of the amendment time is to make 1030 01:21:27,829 --> 01:21:31,316 sure that you also have enough time to properly discuss the 1031 01:21:31,317 --> 01:21:35,821 issue. So by consequence ever shortening the amount of time 1032 01:21:35,822 --> 01:21:38,574 needed to make the amendment, we also shorten the amount of time 1033 01:21:38,575 --> 01:21:40,328 we require for discussion discussion. 1034 01:21:40,329 --> 01:21:44,069 >> well, I would agree, point of clarification, on the motion 1035 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:48,827 that we already voted on that now the Wording and 1036 01:21:48,828 --> 01:21:51,331 understanding of is being changed for, allowing time for 1037 01:21:51,332 --> 01:21:55,569 amendments before we allow time for calling the question allows 1038 01:21:55,570 --> 01:22:01,333 wording to be changed in ways that disrupt the pattern of 1039 01:22:01,334 --> 01:22:03,839 having things move quickly, expediency, and therefore, helps 1040 01:22:04,591 --> 01:22:07,319 disrupt the patterns of pay Koreaarchy and white supremacy, 1041 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,325 and therefore, I disagree with the motion that I voted on 1042 01:22:10,326 --> 01:22:15,334 earlier and I disagree with that ruling. And actually, as far 1043 01:22:15,335 --> 01:22:17,839 as Roberts Rules of Order go, what we voted on is what we 1044 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,578 voted on. >> Do I hear a motion to 1045 01:22:23,579 --> 01:22:29,086 overturn the ruling of the chair? . 1046 01:22:29,087 --> 01:22:36,330 >> Yeah, motion to overturn the ruling of the tri-Moderators and 1047 01:22:36,580 --> 01:22:39,333 readopt the actual wording of the motion that we voted on. 1048 01:22:39,334 --> 01:22:43,572 >> there is a second. This is debatable. Would anyone like to 1049 01:22:44,073 --> 01:22:48,080 speak in favor or against overturning the ruling of the 1050 01:22:48,081 --> 01:22:50,589 tri-mod rateers? 1051 01:22:58,076 --> 01:22:59,329 Unless you have an additional statement to make in favor of 1052 01:22:59,330 --> 01:23:04,337 that, do you need to speak again ? I recognize the delegate at 1053 01:23:04,338 --> 01:23:08,571 the pro mic zoom in Robin, still from fourth universalist. I 1054 01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:10,324 don't think this should need a motion. I am asking us to 1055 01:23:10,325 --> 01:23:12,579 following Roberts resumes of order and to have the Wording be 1056 01:23:12,831 --> 01:23:16,585 what we voted on. It shouldn't need a motion. It should just 1057 01:23:16,586 --> 01:23:20,071 be -- if we're going to follow Roberts, that should just be how 1058 01:23:20,072 --> 01:23:24,330 it is. >> I understand. The Tr 1059 01:23:24,581 --> 01:23:26,833 i-Moderators made a ruling about that interpretation. Now the 1060 01:23:26,834 --> 01:23:29,837 way to overturn that is by making the appropriate motion, 1061 01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:32,320 which you have done. All right? I recognize the delegate at 1062 01:23:32,321 --> 01:23:34,321 the 1063 01:23:35,577 --> 01:23:37,579 pro mic. >> not you, the one behind you. 1064 01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:41,837 You already spoke in favor of this. 1065 01:23:42,068 --> 01:23:45,573 >> My name is GG Gordon, from the Marquette universalist 1066 01:23:45,574 --> 01:23:49,080 congregation in Marquette, Michigan. I speak in favor of 1067 01:23:49,081 --> 01:23:55,321 the proposal, because income -- >> this is not in order now. We 1068 01:23:55,322 --> 01:23:59,080 are speaking in favor or against overturning the ruling 1069 01:23:59,081 --> 01:24:05,341 of the chair. I recognize the delegate at the pro mic. 1070 01:24:05,342 --> 01:24:07,820 >> David Shay, Chandler, Arizona . The advantage of just 1071 01:24:07,821 --> 01:24:12,076 reducing the time for amendments then allows folks to make 1072 01:24:12,077 --> 01:24:15,332 amendments before everyone lines up to call for the question 1073 01:24:15,333 --> 01:24:17,336 question. During the entire time we've been here, that was 1074 01:24:17,337 --> 01:24:20,574 the first time we've had an amendment. I've seen lots of 1075 01:24:20,575 --> 01:24:24,832 people for the be able be to make amendments. So it's 1076 01:24:24,833 --> 01:24:30,818 essentially a motion for fairness. Thank you. 1077 01:24:30,819 --> 01:24:34,577 >> All right. I need a quick clarification. I have an 1078 01:24:34,578 --> 01:24:37,583 off-site delicate at the con microphone. Is that an off-site 1079 01:24:37,833 --> 01:24:43,319 delegate speaking to the motion to overturn the ruling of the 1080 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,574 chair? ? >> yes, it is. 1081 01:24:46,575 --> 01:24:49,329 >> I recognize the off-site delegate at the con mic. 1082 01:24:49,330 --> 01:24:54,318 >> The off-site delegate's name is Abigail Humphries, First 1083 01:24:54,319 --> 01:24:58,577 Unitarian Church, Toledo, Ohio. I am a delegate from church 1084 01:24:58,578 --> 01:25:02,586 Unitarian church, Toledo, Ohio. I think we should embrace the 1085 01:25:02,587 --> 01:25:08,820 intent. Tri-Moderators and respect their ruling. 1086 01:25:08,821 --> 01:25:13,579 >> I recognize the delegate at the pro Mike. 1087 01:25:13,580 --> 01:25:16,585 >> Erin white, first Unitarian Universalist. I am in favor of 1088 01:25:16,586 --> 01:25:23,076 overruling the finding of the -- the interpretation of the 1089 01:25:23,077 --> 01:25:26,334 tri-mod because I did think we were voting with respect to 1090 01:25:26,335 --> 01:25:28,088 amendments, because there has been difficulty in making 1091 01:25:28,089 --> 01:25:32,321 amendments in this General Assembly, and I know that, for 1092 01:25:32,322 --> 01:25:36,578 instance, I was standing on the last resolution and I was unable 1093 01:25:36,579 --> 01:25:39,334 to make the amendment that the author that have resolution was 1094 01:25:39,335 --> 01:25:42,568 in support of because of the ruling that required me to wait 1095 01:25:42,569 --> 01:25:46,326 15 minutes, but allowed for the motion be called before any 1096 01:25:46,327 --> 01:25:51,838 amendments could be made or proposed. And I found that very 1097 01:25:52,590 --> 01:25:56,570 ex-clue I have and I find it not at all ironic that a motion 1098 01:25:56,571 --> 01:26:01,331 about inclusivity, I was excluded from participating in 1099 01:26:01,332 --> 01:26:08,070 that conversation. And so I strongly urge that we reconsider 1100 01:26:08,822 --> 01:26:11,829 and overrule the finding of the tri-mod with all respect. 1101 01:26:13,833 --> 01:26:17,335 Thank you. >> Is the delegate at the con 1102 01:26:17,336 --> 01:26:21,322 mic speaking to overturning the ruling of the chair? All right. 1103 01:26:21,323 --> 01:26:23,323 I recognize the delegate 1104 01:26:25,579 --> 01:26:29,333 at the con mic. >> My name is Mary Beth Spencer 1105 01:26:29,334 --> 01:26:33,826 from mount de-ab blow UU church in Paul nut creek, California, 1106 01:26:33,827 --> 01:26:42,067 and I would like to have us able to discuss all of the things 1107 01:26:42,068 --> 01:26:44,322 that we want to discuss today and get through all of the 1108 01:26:44,323 --> 01:26:50,081 things we want to discuss today, and I know that our time is at 1109 01:26:50,082 --> 01:26:55,068 a premium. We have discussed, we did get to vote on the 1110 01:26:55,069 --> 01:26:59,076 shortening the time and I think that it we do need to figure out 1111 01:26:59,326 --> 01:27:04,833 how we're going to limit ourselves. I was under the 1112 01:27:04,834 --> 01:27:07,319 impression and I think a lot of us were under the impression 1113 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:12,830 that we were voting to make some expediency decisions, and so 1114 01:27:12,831 --> 01:27:20,322 we're going to have to cut time somewhere. We did vote to amend 1115 01:27:21,074 --> 01:27:26,333 Roberts rules and I think that is what we did today. 1116 01:27:26,334 --> 01:27:29,589 >> I recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 1117 01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:31,321 >> Mr. tri-mod, I think the wrong clock is running down. I 1118 01:27:31,322 --> 01:27:35,078 think we should be on the amend ment clock, not the motion clock 1119 01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:40,338 to. I came over here at 15:27. >> okay. I'll check that out in 1120 01:27:40,339 --> 01:27:46,072 a second. Did you have -- >> that was my point of 1121 01:27:46,073 --> 01:27:47,826 information and checking on that pros. 1122 01:27:47,827 --> 01:27:49,079 >> okay. I'm check on the clock. 1123 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:57,826 >> all right. Seeing no other folks in line for -- okay. I 1124 01:27:57,827 --> 01:28:00,079 recognize the delegate at the procedural mic. 1125 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,834 >> This is David Michael, who was east shore Unitarian 1126 01:28:03,835 --> 01:28:07,319 Universalist church in Kirkland, Ohio, the maker of the motion 1127 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,575 that is being discussed. My original -- point of 1128 01:28:10,576 --> 01:28:13,581 clarification. My original intents for the motion was to 1129 01:28:13,582 --> 01:28:18,069 give time for amendments before calling the question. 1130 01:28:23,077 --> 01:28:27,086 >> Could I hear that again? >> this was the maker of the 1131 01:28:27,087 --> 01:28:30,568 motion who says my original intent for the motion was to 1132 01:28:30,569 --> 01:28:37,078 give time for amendments before calling the question. 1133 01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:41,586 >> The Tri-Moderators hear you. We with will make it so 1134 01:28:41,587 --> 01:28:44,070 there's 10 minutes for amendments, but still 15 minutes 1135 01:28:44,321 --> 01:28:51,080 before discussion. Does the delegate who made the motion to 1136 01:28:51,081 --> 01:28:53,084 overturn the ruling of the chair withdraw the motion? 1137 01:28:53,085 --> 01:28:56,071 >> yes. >> thank you thank you, Robin. 1138 01:28:56,322 --> 01:28:59,076 >> Bravo!. >> excellence. 1139 01:28:59,077 --> 01:29:03,586 >> Leon be it's time to sing. 1140 01:29:13,078 --> 01:29:17,084 >> Yes, you, you, Leon, little Leon. 1141 01:29:20,824 --> 01:29:23,829 >> Time for us to send. >> I'm sorry. I was caucusing 1142 01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:25,583 with some of my fellow musicians . 1143 01:29:25,584 --> 01:29:28,588 >> It happens. >> Could I ask the tech deck to 1144 01:29:28,589 --> 01:29:34,575 please get ready gentle angry? [Laughter] 1145 01:29:34,576 --> 01:29:37,582 >> Mark us, where are you, Marcus? 1146 01:29:42,318 --> 01:29:45,822 Oh, my goodness. We'll put it up and we'll just sing it a 1147 01:29:45,823 --> 01:29:54,069 cappella. Gentle, Angry. Gentle angry, 170. 1148 01:30:01,331 --> 01:30:05,839 We have words up? All right. Let's go go. Ready? And we go. 1149 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:11,580 1150 01:33:11,581 --> 01:33:14,837 And thank you so much, Leon. Get to your seats. We want to 1151 01:33:14,838 --> 01:33:17,341 debt some more singing. So we have to be out of this space by 1152 01:33:17,342 --> 01:33:21,324 no later than 3:45:00 p.m. We have a new president that we 1153 01:33:21,325 --> 01:33:24,329 elected. We want to install that person. We have new people 1154 01:33:24,831 --> 01:33:28,085 that we elected to other elected offices that we want to 1155 01:33:28,086 --> 01:33:33,074 install. And to do that, we have to get through our process. 1156 01:33:33,075 --> 01:33:37,582 So how much more time do you want to spend discussing 1157 01:33:37,583 --> 01:33:44,575 resolutions you basically want to pass? How much time do you 1158 01:33:44,576 --> 01:33:51,588 need to discuss something you want to do? I recognize the 1159 01:33:51,589 --> 01:33:56,825 delegate at the pro mic. >> I apologize. I just don't 1160 01:33:56,826 --> 01:34:01,081 think it's a foregone Congresses. I'm Gee Gee Gordon. 1161 01:34:01,082 --> 01:34:03,835 I speak on behalf of the Marquette, Michigan, Unitarian 1162 01:34:03,836 --> 01:34:06,825 Universalist congregation. I support this resolution, because 1163 01:34:07,076 --> 01:34:09,076 I think anything we can do to 1164 01:34:11,083 --> 01:34:14,340 elevate the visibility of the issue of economic inequality 1165 01:34:14,341 --> 01:34:18,326 that's so integral to all of the other issues we've discussed is 1166 01:34:18,826 --> 01:34:24,837 vital. Somebody earlier said that this issue is well in hand, 1167 01:34:25,087 --> 01:34:30,074 but I hear very few candidates for local, state, or federal 1168 01:34:30,075 --> 01:34:34,081 office talking about the issue. And they should be. So I am in 1169 01:34:34,082 --> 01:34:36,086 favor of this. 1170 01:34:39,341 --> 01:34:41,845 >> I have an off-site delegate at the procedural mic first. I 1171 01:34:42,077 --> 01:34:44,582 recognize the off-site delegate at the procedural mic. 1172 01:34:44,833 --> 01:34:49,590 >> this is Amy young, west shore UU church in Cleveland, Ohio. 1173 01:34:50,092 --> 01:34:53,347 If we have time to sing, we have time to leave voting open for a 1174 01:34:53,348 --> 01:34:57,332 full 90 seconds for off-site delegates who are experiencing 1175 01:34:57,333 --> 01:35:00,336 lags that result in not getting the voting option to pop up 1176 01:35:00,337 --> 01:35:04,342 before voting closes. Please set a clock for 90 seconds when 1177 01:35:04,343 --> 01:35:07,827 you open the voting for those of us who cannot listen in on the 1178 01:35:07,828 --> 01:35:11,084 teleconference. Several of us have auditory disabilities and 1179 01:35:11,085 --> 01:35:16,094 need the captions in the video feed to follow along. 1180 01:35:16,095 --> 01:35:20,331 >> tech deck, do you hear that? I need 90 seconds. I need a 1181 01:35:20,332 --> 01:35:25,593 message when we've reached the 902nd Mark. Thank you. I 1182 01:35:25,594 --> 01:35:29,599 recognize the delegate at the procedure mic. 1183 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,078 >> Math other Mason, [Indiscernible] I would like to 1184 01:35:32,079 --> 01:35:34,082 call the question. 1185 01:35:39,091 --> 01:35:41,344 >> This motion is in order as we ever the appropriate amount 1186 01:35:41,345 --> 01:35:44,579 of lapsed type. It is not debatable. It takes two-thirds 1187 01:35:44,580 --> 01:35:49,089 majority all those in favor of ending debate so we can vote on 1188 01:35:49,090 --> 01:35:51,343 this responsive resolution, please date by raising your 1189 01:35:51,344 --> 01:36:01,086 delegate cards now. . All those opposed? And I'm waiting 1190 01:36:01,087 --> 01:36:05,342 for a message from the tech deck for the off-site delegates. 1191 01:36:05,592 --> 01:36:07,592 You can bring that screen up, though. 1192 01:36:38,339 --> 01:36:43,579 I need to get a message from the tech deck. All right. 1193 01:36:43,580 --> 01:36:47,585 That clearly passes. Can I get the text of the responsive 1194 01:36:47,586 --> 01:36:50,842 resolution ads amended on the screen? Thank you. This is 1195 01:36:50,843 --> 01:36:54,076 what we're voting on. This takes a two-thirds majority vote 1196 01:36:54,577 --> 01:37:03,345 in order to piece. I'll read it. Combat being escalating 1197 01:37:04,597 --> 01:37:08,329 inequality. Whereas Tom Andrews of the U USC says that 1198 01:37:08,330 --> 01:37:11,085 he can not think of a time when UU values were more under attack 1199 01:37:12,337 --> 01:37:16,342 than they are today. Whereas, Mr. Andrews exhort us to take 1200 01:37:16,343 --> 01:37:19,076 vigorous and sustained action to protect and further those 1201 01:37:19,077 --> 01:37:23,083 values. Whereas the delegates of this 2017 General Assembly 1202 01:37:23,084 --> 01:37:27,841 approved a statement of conscience regarding escalating 1203 01:37:27,842 --> 01:37:31,077 income inequality. Whereas the causes of escalating inequality 1204 01:37:31,078 --> 01:37:35,334 intersect with the affects of white supremacy. Therefore, be 1205 01:37:35,335 --> 01:37:38,840 it resolved that the 2017 General Assembly calls on the UU 1206 01:37:39,090 --> 01:37:42,076 A Board of Trustees and UUA staff to help coordinate 1207 01:37:46,333 --> 01:37:51,592 , strategize, and effectively these deep seated cultural 1208 01:37:51,593 --> 01:37:53,846 issues. This requires a two-thirds majority vote. We'll 1209 01:37:54,331 --> 01:37:56,585 wait until we hear from the off-site delegates. If you are 1210 01:37:57,085 --> 01:37:59,338 in favor of the response Everetz solution as amended, 1211 01:37:59,339 --> 01:38:03,347 please indicate by raising your delegate cards now. 1212 01:38:06,578 --> 01:38:08,831 All opposend 1213 01:38:13,841 --> 01:38:17,346 we do not call for abstentions. If you didn't vote in favor or 1214 01:38:17,347 --> 01:38:20,080 against, I assume you abstained. 1215 01:38:33,832 --> 01:38:36,587 The motion clearly passes. 1216 01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,083 >> Good afternoon. We are now ready to add to voting language 1217 01:38:47,084 --> 01:38:53,846 on the UUA bylaws relating to an -- telling a study commission 1218 01:38:53,847 --> 01:38:58,834 we want them to consider this language. I need to see the 1219 01:38:58,835 --> 01:39:02,588 text of the -- thank you. So in the spirit of making sure you 1220 01:39:02,589 --> 01:39:06,618 all know what you're voting on, appointment of a study 1221 01:39:06,619 --> 01:39:09,123 commission to consider adding an eighth principle to article 1222 01:39:09,124 --> 01:39:13,382 two, principles and purposes. Whereas the president's reported 1223 01:39:13,883 --> 01:39:16,138 and the report of the Board of Trustees both address the issues 1224 01:39:16,389 --> 01:39:20,860 of white supremacy and intersecting forms of oppression 1225 01:39:20,861 --> 01:39:25,618 and whereas the delegation of the 2017 General Assembly 1226 01:39:25,619 --> 01:39:28,373 believe that such issues are sufficiently important to be 1227 01:39:28,374 --> 01:39:33,332 specifically addressed in the UU A bylaws principles and 1228 01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:36,086 purposes. Therefore, be it resolved that the delegates to 1229 01:39:36,087 --> 01:39:40,095 the 2017 General Assembly call for the board to appoint a study 1230 01:39:41,847 --> 01:39:45,332 commission to discuss adding an eighth principle that may be as 1231 01:39:45,583 --> 01:39:48,086 stated below: We, the member congregations of the Unitarian 1232 01:39:48,087 --> 01:39:52,846 Universalist association, covenant to affirm and promote 1233 01:39:52,847 --> 01:39:57,581 journeying toward spiritual wholeness by building a diverse 1234 01:39:57,582 --> 01:40:00,838 multicultural Beloved Community by our actions that accountably 1235 01:40:00,839 --> 01:40:06,833 dismantle racism and other oppressions in ourselves and our 1236 01:40:06,834 --> 01:40:11,843 institutions. The moderator recognizes the speaker at the 1237 01:40:11,844 --> 01:40:14,598 pro mic. >> my name is Bruce Pollack 1238 01:40:14,599 --> 01:40:19,579 Johnson. Paula coal Jones and I wrote this resolution and the 1239 01:40:19,580 --> 01:40:23,334 eighth principle. My pronouns are he/him/his. I'm a delegate 1240 01:40:23,335 --> 01:40:26,338 from the UU church of restoration in Philadelphia. At 1241 01:40:26,339 --> 01:40:29,344 this historic resolution resolutionnary GA, we've been 1242 01:40:29,345 --> 01:40:33,333 remind today focus on what really matters and on having an 1243 01:40:33,334 --> 01:40:40,097 impact. Dr. Asneka Reminded us UU-ism as a beautiful theology 1244 01:40:40,098 --> 01:40:44,080 of Beloved Community that has a deep appeal to people of color 1245 01:40:44,081 --> 01:40:47,836 and those from other oppressed groups. Our phenomenal 1246 01:40:47,837 --> 01:40:52,094 co-presidents have remind ised us that our practices have often 1247 01:40:52,344 --> 01:40:55,076 not lived up to this vision and they have modeled the kind of 1248 01:40:55,077 --> 01:40:58,333 radical action needed to correct those shortcomings, which our 1249 01:40:58,334 --> 01:41:02,088 new president has pledged to continued. Race is the issue 1250 01:41:02,089 --> 01:41:07,577 behind the two major crises of our association. Dr. Sanika has 1251 01:41:07,827 --> 01:41:11,583 come back home and offered us a unique opportunity for 1252 01:41:11,584 --> 01:41:15,588 reconciliation and redemption, an amazing gift. The eighth 1253 01:41:15,589 --> 01:41:19,829 principle was conceived by Paula Cole Jones, because our current 1254 01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:24,337 UU reality is that someone can believe they are living the 1255 01:41:24,338 --> 01:41:27,842 seven principles, but not spend any time thinking about or 1256 01:41:27,843 --> 01:41:32,836 acting to dismantle systemic white supremacy or other 1257 01:41:32,837 --> 01:41:37,597 oppressions. Our current seven principles do not explicitly 1258 01:41:37,598 --> 01:41:39,851 mention Beloved Community or love in any form or 1259 01:41:39,852 --> 01:41:44,334 accountability. They do not remind us that this work is 1260 01:41:44,335 --> 01:41:47,842 necessary to move ourselves towards spiritual wholeness. 1261 01:41:47,843 --> 01:41:52,601 Our 1997 resolution was not enough to keep our eyes on this 1262 01:41:52,602 --> 01:41:56,585 prize. Our UU principles are what we all referred to mentally 1263 01:41:56,586 --> 01:41:59,838 as the core of who we are. The language of the eighth 1264 01:41:59,839 --> 01:42:03,093 principle is the language we have been hearing and using 1265 01:42:03,094 --> 01:42:08,084 throughout this amazing GA. Let's codify it as a constant 1266 01:42:08,085 --> 01:42:13,592 reminder to ourselves of what we are truly all about. Action 1267 01:42:13,593 --> 01:42:18,831 toward justice is an essential spiritual component of UUism. 1268 01:42:18,832 --> 01:42:21,337 We all need to work very hard to -- 1269 01:42:21,837 --> 01:42:25,591 >> thank you. I'd like to remind delegates that we now 1270 01:42:25,592 --> 01:42:28,596 have about a half hour for all of our closing ceremonies, 1271 01:42:28,597 --> 01:42:32,082 including installation of our officers. I would like to 1272 01:42:32,083 --> 01:42:35,088 suggest that if there's any, like, amendments type language 1273 01:42:35,089 --> 01:42:38,594 or clarification or anything of that sort, you're welcome to 1274 01:42:38,595 --> 01:42:43,583 e-mail that to board@UUA.org. Please keep in mind that these 1275 01:42:43,584 --> 01:42:47,091 responsive resolutions do not have force and effect of law. 1276 01:42:47,592 --> 01:42:51,348 They are not binding. And so spending a lot of time crafting 1277 01:42:51,349 --> 01:42:56,082 language may not be the best use of our time if you want to see 1278 01:42:56,083 --> 01:43:00,589 the closing ceremonies occur. Now, it's up to you if you want 1279 01:43:00,590 --> 01:43:03,344 to spend the next half hour debating. We can do that, but 1280 01:43:03,345 --> 01:43:06,080 then we won't have any closing ceremonies. We won't be able 1281 01:43:06,081 --> 01:43:09,085 to acknowledge our new officers. The Moderator recognize 1282 01:43:09,086 --> 01:43:11,839 recognizes the gel I got at the procedural microphone. 1283 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:17,599 >> Hi. My name is Sharon gray from all faith's Unitarian 1284 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,334 congregation in Fort Myers, Florida. And I've sat through 1285 01:43:21,335 --> 01:43:27,095 workshops and I've sat through business sessions and I thought 1286 01:43:27,096 --> 01:43:30,080 I heard that any time some amendment or proposed amendments 1287 01:43:30,831 --> 01:43:33,837 is going to go a special commission or Committee to study 1288 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,845 , that all of the principles and all of the purposes will also 1289 01:43:38,846 --> 01:43:41,348 be reviewed. >> that,. 1290 01:43:41,349 --> 01:43:45,085 >> and I want to confirm that, because there were some 1291 01:43:45,086 --> 01:43:48,342 principles that did not get voted upon this time, and we 1292 01:43:48,343 --> 01:43:52,099 were told that if anything was submitted to that commission, 1293 01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:54,329 they all would be reviewed. >> you are absolutely correct. 1294 01:43:54,330 --> 01:43:58,335 >> thank you. >> the Moderator recognizes the 1295 01:43:58,336 --> 01:44:00,089 delegate at the procedural microphone. 1296 01:44:00,090 --> 01:44:06,080 >> Thank you. Carl Ponenan from the greater universalist church 1297 01:44:06,330 --> 01:44:09,085 of greater Lansing. I was excited to hear earlier today 1298 01:44:09,086 --> 01:44:14,096 the Moderator announce that the Board of trustees wilt be 1299 01:44:14,097 --> 01:44:16,100 appointing a commission to look at all of article two. My 1300 01:44:16,101 --> 01:44:17,853 question, my point of information, if you could 1301 01:44:17,854 --> 01:44:22,587 clarify, this resolution, does it create a separate 1302 01:44:26,593 --> 01:44:29,596 study commission does two modify the study commission 1303 01:44:29,597 --> 01:44:32,834 already in place? Does it do something else entirely? If so, 1304 01:44:32,835 --> 01:44:33,836 what? >> I'm going to look to the 1305 01:44:33,837 --> 01:44:37,344 makers of the motion, but I understand your intent is to 1306 01:44:37,345 --> 01:44:40,600 simply direct the study commission that the board will 1307 01:44:40,601 --> 01:44:43,333 create to specifically address this issue and make sure there's 1308 01:44:43,583 --> 01:44:47,087 language in there. Encourage there's language to be in there. 1309 01:44:47,088 --> 01:44:47,839 1310 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,844 >> thank you. 1311 01:44:53,852 --> 01:44:55,852 >> Okay. The Moderator recognizes the delegate 1312 01:44:59,089 --> 01:45:00,339 at the con mic. >> Marie [Indiscernible] First 1313 01:45:00,340 --> 01:45:06,329 Unitarian society society of Chicago. The first Unitarian 1314 01:45:06,330 --> 01:45:08,833 society of Chicago is opposed to the addition of the eighth 1315 01:45:08,834 --> 01:45:12,588 principle as proposed by the black lives of Unitarian 1316 01:45:12,589 --> 01:45:17,847 Universalist organizing o'clock tive, without the two or three 1317 01:45:17,848 --> 01:45:19,582 year periods normally required for such a change, and we 1318 01:45:19,583 --> 01:45:24,841 further recommend to or delegates in the 2017 assembly 1319 01:45:24,842 --> 01:45:27,598 of the Unitarian Universalist association that they vote 1320 01:45:27,599 --> 01:45:31,584 against any attempt to bypass this normal procedure. 1321 01:45:36,846 --> 01:45:38,848 >> Okay. This is not a bypassing of normal procedure. 1322 01:45:39,098 --> 01:45:42,330 There are a number of avenue for his bylaws amendments to be 1323 01:45:42,331 --> 01:45:46,338 considered. The Moderator recognizes the delegate at the 1324 01:45:46,339 --> 01:45:50,597 pro mic. >> my name is Denny Davidoff, a 1325 01:45:50,598 --> 01:45:54,580 delegate from the Unitarian church in Westport, Connecticut. 1326 01:45:54,581 --> 01:45:56,581 1327 01:45:57,587 --> 01:46:01,846 It's not 81, in June, and the General Assembly is in 1328 01:46:01,847 --> 01:46:07,581 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And the newly elected president of 1329 01:46:07,582 --> 01:46:10,086 the Unitarian Universalist women's federation, I am 1330 01:46:10,087 --> 01:46:17,351 standing at a pro mic to begin the process of creating a 1331 01:46:17,352 --> 01:46:26,094 commission to study our principles so that that the 1332 01:46:26,095 --> 01:46:29,851 subject of feminism can be entered into our principles. 1333 01:46:29,852 --> 01:46:39,594 And four years later, in 1985, that was in Atlanta, we have 1334 01:46:39,595 --> 01:46:43,585 what is pretty much our principles right now, which is 1335 01:46:43,586 --> 01:46:46,091 not only to say this is deja vu all over again again, but to 1336 01:46:46,092 --> 01:46:52,102 strongly, for my own by ass, agree that we should probably, 1337 01:46:52,103 --> 01:46:59,594 yes, we should have an eighth principle on the subject that we 1338 01:46:59,595 --> 01:47:06,583 were not even thinking about in 1981. More's the pity. So I 1339 01:47:06,584 --> 01:47:13,097 speak in favor of this resolution, which I hope will be 1340 01:47:13,348 --> 01:47:21,840 passed swiftly, and I speak also to my contention that the 1341 01:47:21,841 --> 01:47:26,849 inclusion of an eighth principle should be encompassed into a 1342 01:47:26,850 --> 01:47:30,584 review of all the principles and, he know deed, all the 1343 01:47:30,585 --> 01:47:36,594 bylaws. That would be an amendment, but I hope we don't 1344 01:47:36,595 --> 01:47:41,854 get that far today. >> The Moderator recognizes the 1345 01:47:42,084 --> 01:47:43,586 delegate at the procedural microphone. 1346 01:47:43,587 --> 01:47:48,094 >> Thank you, Madam Moderator. I'm Jasmine wallston, First 1347 01:47:48,095 --> 01:47:51,100 Unitarian Church, Louisville, Kentucky. I would like to move 1348 01:47:51,101 --> 01:47:54,334 to amend the rules to allow us to call the question immediately 1349 01:47:56,337 --> 01:47:58,840 . >> Is there a second? 1350 01:47:59,090 --> 01:48:01,594 >> second. >> 1351 01:48:06,584 --> 01:48:10,590 >> All right. That requires a two-thirds vote. And 1352 01:48:10,591 --> 01:48:13,096 non-debatable. All those in favor after mending the rules so 1353 01:48:13,347 --> 01:48:16,601 we can call the question after five minutes? 1354 01:48:20,589 --> 01:48:23,845 Gearing immediately. Sorry. Thank you for clarifying. Okay. 1355 01:48:23,846 --> 01:48:28,853 Off-site delegates, tech neck , give me a signal when we're 1356 01:48:28,854 --> 01:48:33,839 ready for them. >> we didn't do the no. 1357 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:39,101 >> I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. 1358 01:48:39,102 --> 01:48:42,834 >> Okay. I'm assuming we're looking at yeses and nos in the 1359 01:48:42,835 --> 01:48:45,589 house and tech is out ex-turn I separately. Okay. In the house 1360 01:48:46,090 --> 01:48:49,597 and online, any opposed? 1361 01:48:53,605 --> 01:48:55,605 Okay. 1362 01:48:56,838 --> 01:49:02,347 We have our external offline delegates voting 86% in favor, 1363 01:49:02,348 --> 01:49:06,083 14% opposed. The motion carries and now we can call the 1364 01:49:06,084 --> 01:49:09,838 question after five minutes. >> immediately. 1365 01:49:09,839 --> 01:49:14,599 >> I've got the five minute rule in front of me. Sorry. Thank 1366 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:21,086 you. Thank you. Okay. So we've just changed the rules. 1367 01:49:21,087 --> 01:49:23,087 >> 1368 01:49:24,093 --> 01:49:26,096 the Moderator recognizes the delegate at the procedural 1369 01:49:26,097 --> 01:49:29,354 microphone. >> Thank you, Madam Moderator. 1370 01:49:29,355 --> 01:49:34,592 Still jazz pin wallston, still Louisville Kentucky. I call the 1371 01:49:34,593 --> 01:49:36,346 question. >> is there a second? 1372 01:49:36,347 --> 01:49:38,851 >> second. >> all those in favor of calling 1373 01:49:39,102 --> 01:49:43,840 the question and moving to a vote, raise your voting cards. 1374 01:49:51,606 --> 01:49:59,346 Okay. Are there any opposed? Looking to the tech deck to the 1375 01:49:59,347 --> 01:50:01,602 off-site results. 1376 01:50:14,852 --> 01:50:19,591 Okay. The motion clearly carries. So now we are on the 1377 01:50:19,592 --> 01:50:23,598 main motion, unamended. All those in favor of the proposed 1378 01:50:23,599 --> 01:50:30,837 responsive resolution, raise your voting cards. And all 1379 01:50:30,838 --> 01:50:33,343 those opposed? 1380 01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,359 And we're waying on/off site delegates. 1381 01:50:58,345 --> 01:51:01,350 Okay. The motion clearly carries.