1 00:00:02,689 --> 00:00:08,639 typically we would also have a board 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:10,980 report this is the time that is usually 3 00:00:08,639 --> 00:00:12,860 set aside for that report and this year 4 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:16,049 we're doing it a little bit differently 5 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:18,480 we know we gather at a pivotal moment 6 00:00:16,049 --> 00:00:21,570 for our nation and for our faith our 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,570 challenge as we continue to say is to 8 00:00:21,570 --> 00:00:27,990 embrace new ways of listening new ways 9 00:00:24,570 --> 00:00:30,630 of speaking out new ways to confront and 10 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:33,660 root out the racism that permeates the 11 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:37,890 life we all share the question now is 12 00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:41,700 are we willing to be changed by what 13 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:43,410 we've started we've set aside this time 14 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:47,250 to give you a glimpse into the 15 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:49,350 courageous often agonizing conversations 16 00:00:47,250 --> 00:00:53,239 in which your board has done it's best 17 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:56,840 to rise to these challenges for trustees 18 00:00:53,239 --> 00:01:00,050 Andrea Briscoe Rob eller Isaac's 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:03,420 Christina Yvetta Andale Andrea Williams 20 00:01:00,050 --> 00:01:06,900 have agreed to speak to three powerful 21 00:01:03,420 --> 00:01:10,650 questions how is your faith prepared you 22 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:13,439 for this moment what qualities will we 23 00:01:10,650 --> 00:01:16,080 need to embody together as we continue 24 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:20,040 the work of building Beloved Community 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:22,020 and as trustees of our association what 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,600 do you need from our people now and in 27 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:27,630 the future as you work to make our 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,970 promises real we've asked these four 29 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:34,170 brave souls to try their best to tell 30 00:01:29,970 --> 00:01:39,780 the truth in love and we ask no less of 31 00:01:34,170 --> 00:01:42,390 you our partner John Saru from essential 32 00:01:39,780 --> 00:01:45,000 partners has agreed to moderate the 33 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:49,670 panel and I will invite John and the 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,670 panel up to have their conversation 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:07,150 yeah thank you so much it is an honor to 36 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:09,399 be invited to serve this profound and 37 00:02:07,150 --> 00:02:12,430 vital conversation in this courageous 38 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:14,350 and caring community I am NOT a uu but 39 00:02:12,430 --> 00:02:20,140 the more time I spend with you all the 40 00:02:14,350 --> 00:02:22,720 more at home I feel so thank you we only 41 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:24,940 have 30 minutes so we've made some 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,010 agreements for our time together we've 43 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:29,680 agreed to stay within some time limits 44 00:02:27,010 --> 00:02:31,810 that I'll be keeping we've agreed to 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,360 speak from our own perspectives 46 00:02:31,810 --> 00:02:36,640 understanding that each of us has a 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,520 perspective that helps us all understand 48 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:41,709 the fullness of this community agreed to 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,660 allow each other to finish speaking to 50 00:02:41,709 --> 00:02:45,880 speak of one another in ways that are 51 00:02:43,660 --> 00:02:48,160 within covenant and to the audience I 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,770 just asked to do what you're already 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,980 doing which is to support the panel as 54 00:02:50,770 --> 00:02:56,770 they seek to speak honestly by listening 55 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:58,420 deeply and generously trying to hear 56 00:02:56,770 --> 00:03:00,730 everybody's voice and what they're 57 00:02:58,420 --> 00:03:01,390 bringing so we'll start with the first 58 00:03:00,730 --> 00:03:04,750 question 59 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:09,580 Cristina it how was your faith prepared 60 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:13,510 you for this moment I would say that um 61 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:17,890 I'm definitely more Universalist than 62 00:03:13,510 --> 00:03:22,780 Unitarian I shout out for the 63 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:25,180 Universalist I really feel like what 64 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:27,519 drew me to Unitarian Universalism was 65 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:30,489 the fact that my salvation is bound up 66 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:36,700 in all of yours right that we are not in 67 00:03:30,489 --> 00:03:40,900 this alone and that where that drew me 68 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:43,630 into my faith is to have circles of 69 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:46,090 accountability you know within the work 70 00:03:43,630 --> 00:03:49,810 that I do for the faith so many of those 71 00:03:46,090 --> 00:03:52,870 circles have people of color on them not 72 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:55,840 exclusively but elders peers and youth 73 00:03:52,870 --> 00:03:58,720 who continually hold me accountable to 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,709 the work and to the truth that it is our 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:05,470 faith that I'm serving our institutions 76 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:08,380 are an expression of that faith that's 77 00:04:05,470 --> 00:04:11,290 really easy to see but it's our 78 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:15,579 Unitarian Universalist faith itself that 79 00:04:11,290 --> 00:04:19,900 I I'm trying to hold up in my work on 80 00:04:15,579 --> 00:04:22,360 the trustees Thank You Andrea so for the 81 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:24,550 whole 18 years of my life I have been 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:29,770 attending a Unitarian Universalist 83 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:32,770 congregation and throughout the entire 84 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:35,620 time that I've been going to it I've 85 00:04:32,770 --> 00:04:37,509 always learned about the seven 86 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:41,919 principles and I've become a leader in 87 00:04:37,509 --> 00:04:45,820 my congregation and beyond and I think I 88 00:04:41,919 --> 00:04:51,300 really became inspired when I served on 89 00:04:45,820 --> 00:04:56,229 the youth caucus staff and josue caucus 90 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:58,030 and I came to GA and I saw that the work 91 00:04:56,229 --> 00:05:00,130 that we do together is so much bigger 92 00:04:58,030 --> 00:05:02,770 than individual congregations and it's 93 00:05:00,130 --> 00:05:06,039 so much bigger than just youth and it's 94 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:09,220 so much bigger than just me and I think 95 00:05:06,039 --> 00:05:10,630 that really inspired me to continue with 96 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:15,130 my work 97 00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:18,010 to bring us closer together and bring 98 00:05:15,130 --> 00:05:32,470 justice and love for all of the people 99 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:33,729 in this room and beyond so yeah as a 100 00:05:32,470 --> 00:05:37,570 former youth caucus person I'm always 101 00:05:33,729 --> 00:05:40,060 like yeah um so I really believe that 102 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:41,590 everybody's a divine and so when I look 103 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:43,659 at people I see the divine in them and I 104 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:45,940 see the divine in me right and how we 105 00:05:43,659 --> 00:05:47,530 see each other in that way and so when I 106 00:05:45,940 --> 00:05:48,880 think about my faith I've been a unitary 107 00:05:47,530 --> 00:05:50,860 Universalist since I was in the fourth 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,479 grade I think and so I'm not always a 109 00:05:50,860 --> 00:05:55,690 lot all the way a lifer but really close 110 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:58,360 um but I'm still a little Baptist you 111 00:05:55,690 --> 00:06:00,010 know and all the way Christian with a 112 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,180 lot of other things intermingle like the 113 00:06:00,010 --> 00:06:03,490 rest of us 114 00:06:01,180 --> 00:06:05,710 and so to me it's like how do we ground 115 00:06:03,490 --> 00:06:07,389 ourselves in like what our value is as 116 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:10,030 people and seeing each other's humanity 117 00:06:07,389 --> 00:06:11,650 seeing the God as I say the God in each 118 00:06:10,030 --> 00:06:13,840 of us and what that means for our 119 00:06:11,650 --> 00:06:16,030 relationships and how we move and how we 120 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:19,090 build and the only other thing I'd add 121 00:06:16,030 --> 00:06:20,950 is that when I was 15 the journal 122 00:06:19,090 --> 00:06:23,139 homeless thing program came through our 123 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:25,060 church in Lynn Straus our minister who 124 00:06:23,139 --> 00:06:26,710 either will always love for life 125 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:28,930 really pushed it so my minister pushed 126 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:30,760 our anti-racism work and our church and 127 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:32,380 pushed us a thing about class in our 128 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,590 church with some people I guess don't 129 00:06:32,380 --> 00:06:38,260 have but I had um and then I got to meet 130 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:40,750 a ton of people who are in this room who 131 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:43,030 guided me from 15 and beyond and they 132 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:45,490 really held me and taught me what it 133 00:06:43,030 --> 00:06:48,160 meant and so I know what whiteness looks 134 00:06:45,490 --> 00:06:57,970 like that is pushing against and that 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:07:02,070 holds me in his faith the faith the 136 00:06:57,970 --> 00:07:07,480 church I grew up in taught me to aspire 137 00:07:02,070 --> 00:07:09,940 to serve the church universal at the 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,570 same time it was teaching me to aspire 139 00:07:09,940 --> 00:07:16,060 to be sensitive to diversity of 140 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:17,530 expression and form so from the 141 00:07:16,060 --> 00:07:20,020 beginning there was this inherent 142 00:07:17,530 --> 00:07:25,060 tension between the one and the many 143 00:07:20,020 --> 00:07:26,590 between unitarian universalism as a as 144 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:30,220 the best possible Church in the whole 145 00:07:26,590 --> 00:07:35,460 world that exceptionalism that we are 146 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:41,979 subject to and a deep deep respect for 147 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:45,820 differences of opinion so I was prepared 148 00:07:41,979 --> 00:07:47,950 for this moment by people who recognized 149 00:07:45,820 --> 00:07:51,550 that though the cornerstone of the 150 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:55,840 church might say truth on it the truth 151 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:58,510 was a very tangled thicket and we needed 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:02,640 to first and foremost care about each 153 00:07:58,510 --> 00:08:07,510 other and listen thank you all 154 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:09,820 so the second of these big questions and 155 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:13,240 we'll have up to three minutes each and 156 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:14,740 I know that feels sort of it's too 157 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,460 structured but we want to make space for 158 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:21,760 your organic conversation as well so the 159 00:08:18,460 --> 00:08:24,940 question is what qualities will we need 160 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,850 to embody together as we continue the 161 00:08:24,940 --> 00:08:30,580 work of building Beloved Community I'll 162 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:33,130 start again with Cristina as I 163 00:08:30,580 --> 00:08:34,870 considered this question it was this was 164 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:37,089 one of the harder ones for me because 165 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:40,719 the qualities 166 00:08:37,089 --> 00:08:45,670 that I bring are not always welcome in 167 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:47,769 uu leadership right so I come from a 168 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:51,759 family that comes from south-central Los 169 00:08:47,769 --> 00:08:55,029 Angeles in East LA and the way we move 170 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:56,800 through and speak is not the way I'm 171 00:08:55,029 --> 00:09:02,559 moving through and speaking right here 172 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:04,480 right and so to bring that fullness to 173 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,430 the boardroom you know it's like what 174 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,559 quality are we really talking about 175 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:10,660 right are we talking about the quality 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,749 that will get the work done and get 177 00:09:10,660 --> 00:09:17,410 through the white supremacy that is in 178 00:09:13,749 --> 00:09:19,120 our water at the board level or are we 179 00:09:17,410 --> 00:09:24,879 talking about the qualities that my 180 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:30,149 culture values in terms of respect for 181 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:35,100 our elders and collaboration and 182 00:09:30,149 --> 00:09:37,749 stepping away from so that others can 183 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:41,470 can provide their leadership in a 184 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:43,569 different way so it's difficult to say 185 00:09:41,470 --> 00:09:46,420 what qualities we need together I think 186 00:09:43,569 --> 00:09:49,929 the quality I would hope most for is 187 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:53,610 that we get to a point where any of 188 00:09:49,929 --> 00:09:59,470 those are not just welcomed but 189 00:09:53,610 --> 00:10:02,069 completely valued and embraced in uu 190 00:09:59,470 --> 00:10:02,069 leadership 191 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:11,390 I think as a youth on the Board of 192 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,220 Trustees I share a lot of the same 193 00:10:11,390 --> 00:10:16,850 sentiment where I come from a very 194 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:20,440 different place in my life then pretty 195 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:23,600 much all of my fellow trustees and I 196 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:26,240 don't know a lot of the institutional 197 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,510 knowledge that they have and I feel like 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,510 I sometimes step into the boardroom with 199 00:10:29,510 --> 00:10:34,460 a little bit behind of everyone else and 200 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:37,610 I think one of the qualities that we 201 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:41,360 have to share together is never assuming 202 00:10:37,610 --> 00:10:44,450 that we all know what's going on because 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,790 I know personally that I sometimes would 204 00:10:44,450 --> 00:10:51,470 be confused and with my confusion I know 205 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:55,340 others would be as well and I think just 206 00:10:51,470 --> 00:10:58,610 having the mutual respect to listen to 207 00:10:55,340 --> 00:11:01,310 questions that people have and never say 208 00:10:58,610 --> 00:11:03,230 that it was a silly question or 209 00:11:01,310 --> 00:11:06,080 something that we should already know is 210 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:08,390 really important and something that I've 211 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,960 learned being on the board this past 212 00:11:08,390 --> 00:11:14,390 year has been to really push myself to 213 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:17,570 learn about other cultures and about 214 00:11:14,390 --> 00:11:19,550 other generations and about other 215 00:11:17,570 --> 00:11:23,260 regional differences I'm from 216 00:11:19,550 --> 00:11:25,550 Philadelphia I have a lot of different I 217 00:11:23,260 --> 00:11:27,860 have a lot of different regional 218 00:11:25,550 --> 00:11:31,310 knowledge compared to people from the 219 00:11:27,860 --> 00:11:34,070 south or people from Minnesota or 220 00:11:31,310 --> 00:11:37,490 anywhere else in the world and I just 221 00:11:34,070 --> 00:11:40,160 think that if we stay open to pushing 222 00:11:37,490 --> 00:11:42,800 ourselves to learn about our differences 223 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:46,630 while also celebrating each other's 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:49,780 commitment to working to further our 225 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:53,210 ends and further what we want to do to 226 00:11:49,780 --> 00:11:55,130 help all of our religion move into a 227 00:11:53,210 --> 00:11:59,470 more accepting place is something that I 228 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:59,470 really want to see happen on our board 229 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:12,430 so my name is a Landry 11 get 230 00:12:08,350 --> 00:12:14,260 contentious and challenging so that's 231 00:12:12,430 --> 00:12:17,530 what I feel like my role is in life 232 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:21,030 so here the qualities I want to say that 233 00:12:17,530 --> 00:12:23,050 may come as a shock surprise we'll see 234 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:25,210 radical transparency 235 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:27,370 I believe it we don't know how to be 236 00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:29,890 radically transparent then it's we will 237 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:32,650 seep and we will never uncovered right 238 00:12:29,890 --> 00:12:34,930 so Yuri Yamamoto and others helped do a 239 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:36,760 book around lay people of color that I'm 240 00:12:34,930 --> 00:12:38,290 blessed to be in there's one around 241 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,010 religious professionals of color called 242 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:44,800 centering read both of them we don't 243 00:12:42,010 --> 00:12:47,590 there are no names named it's like 244 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,950 they're stories but there's some radical 245 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:53,050 transparency that can't be done right so 246 00:12:50,950 --> 00:12:55,300 we're in a time in our faith where if 247 00:12:53,050 --> 00:12:57,550 you can never be radically transparent 248 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:59,350 right like a monk community if you ain't 249 00:12:57,550 --> 00:13:01,030 transparent we got a problem 250 00:12:59,350 --> 00:13:03,520 right they will find out who is 251 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:05,590 responsible period first like it hinges 252 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,290 oh they did it now better who did it 253 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:10,360 right so like I want to say like this 254 00:13:08,290 --> 00:13:13,690 whole life here all the time is not 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:17,050 functional so we have to fix that we 256 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:19,540 have to figure out how we can not 257 00:13:17,050 --> 00:13:21,610 necessarily debate all the time but say 258 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:24,040 we come from different spaces different 259 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:25,420 realities we've got a minister of here 260 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,980 I'm not one we have a religious 261 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:29,110 professor I used to be one but not now 262 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:30,460 we are somebody that's amazing and just 263 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:31,830 graduated is going to fit so not oh yeah 264 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:34,900 so we've got all of these different 265 00:13:31,830 --> 00:13:37,450 viewpoints but what does that mean we're 266 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:39,430 trying to figure out a decision right 267 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,650 because we actually come at things very 268 00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:43,870 differently because of our experiences 269 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:46,330 which is a good thing but sometimes it 270 00:13:43,870 --> 00:13:47,740 also gets in the way because we don't 271 00:13:46,330 --> 00:13:51,100 acknowledge what that we don't sometimes 272 00:13:47,740 --> 00:13:53,200 acknowledge those in the front end um so 273 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:55,150 I think the other piece is so my job is 274 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,310 not connected to you use in any way 275 00:13:55,150 --> 00:13:59,650 shape or form except for the people that 276 00:13:57,310 --> 00:14:01,690 come that are you using organizers and 277 00:13:59,650 --> 00:14:03,400 activists and movement people and so 278 00:14:01,690 --> 00:14:04,810 there are tons and we have conversations 279 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,300 that I'm like this is not an actual 280 00:14:04,810 --> 00:14:10,480 people problem this is some creative 281 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:11,800 thing and like really like that I don't 282 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,700 understand why I have to talk about this 283 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,490 right now 284 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:17,410 um and so I do want to say that for if 285 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:19,810 we're going to really transform and 286 00:14:17,410 --> 00:14:21,550 actually be rooted in reality and for 287 00:14:19,810 --> 00:14:25,180 people's live experience that come in 288 00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:28,210 like I want my brother to be able to be 289 00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:30,400 in this faith and he can't even though 290 00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:32,170 he grew up in it and so like what does 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,050 that mean for me as a board member and 292 00:14:32,170 --> 00:14:37,660 shifting this culture so that my brother 293 00:14:35,050 --> 00:14:39,460 can get hope right even in the midst of 294 00:14:37,660 --> 00:14:41,290 our board conversations because things 295 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:43,570 are happening in all of our lives and 296 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:45,190 sometimes we can hyper focus on my new 297 00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:50,040 show which kind of isn't really that 298 00:14:45,190 --> 00:14:51,270 crucial the last thing I'd say um oh 299 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,230 goodness 300 00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:57,220 how do you say this in a way that makes 301 00:14:53,230 --> 00:15:00,760 really good sense um is that I think we 302 00:14:57,220 --> 00:15:02,800 have to take a lot of giant leaps a lot 303 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,280 of giant leaps and to me is beyond 304 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:08,440 rewriting the bylaws it's a lot of giant 305 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,210 leaps around just like saying you know 306 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,700 what I'm gonna put my stuff all the way 307 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:14,320 out there and say the things that that 308 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:18,580 may come back at me in a way that's 309 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:20,200 painful um but is my truth and knowing 310 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:21,850 that we have to figure out how we share 311 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,630 our truths in a way and hold each other 312 00:15:21,850 --> 00:15:24,630 and love 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:43,690 I need to be radically transparent about 314 00:15:40,569 --> 00:15:47,800 Who I am and what I believe and what I 315 00:15:43,690 --> 00:15:50,560 think without being overwhelming without 316 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:55,779 taking up too much space which is an 317 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:57,310 issue for me I believe there's a 318 00:15:55,779 --> 00:15:59,920 difference between being radically 319 00:15:57,310 --> 00:16:02,380 transparent about myself and my view of 320 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:06,069 a situation and reading one another's 321 00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:08,860 inventory I think to be radically 322 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:12,970 transparent in determining who it is we 323 00:16:08,860 --> 00:16:14,470 think is responsible I don't know that 324 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:19,360 that's the way to go because I feel 325 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:22,930 responsible and for us to hold hands and 326 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:27,100 acknowledge are both our obligations and 327 00:16:22,930 --> 00:16:30,519 our complicity to try to engage one 328 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:32,860 another at depth as human beings these 329 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:35,500 are challenging things this is this is 330 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:37,779 religious practice at its deepest and 331 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:39,819 it's hardest I got to tell you and this 332 00:16:37,779 --> 00:16:43,990 is you I'm talking to now I got to tell 333 00:16:39,819 --> 00:16:49,180 you this is not easy the quality of 334 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:54,750 conversation that we do our best to 335 00:16:49,180 --> 00:17:00,610 achieve is often agonizingly difficult 336 00:16:54,750 --> 00:17:04,030 so qualities that I'm that I want to 337 00:17:00,610 --> 00:17:07,600 embody are a deep commitment to my own 338 00:17:04,030 --> 00:17:10,720 practice and support for other people to 339 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,760 take the time they need to bring their 340 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,730 best self to bring my best self to the 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:20,620 board table and to the conversation out 342 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:27,730 of which our future is being shaped so 343 00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:33,000 practice and I'm with you on the radical 344 00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:36,400 transparency thing and that means not 345 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,429 shrinking when I'm afraid I'm going to 346 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,360 be called a racist patriarchal old 347 00:17:39,429 --> 00:17:42,360 minister 348 00:17:47,210 --> 00:17:54,779 every time one of the tensions here is 349 00:17:52,679 --> 00:18:03,200 that the church that doesn't work for 350 00:17:54,779 --> 00:18:05,789 your brother has made my life what it is 351 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,389 so when we talk about we're not talking 352 00:18:05,789 --> 00:18:11,250 about tweaking here we're talking about 353 00:18:08,389 --> 00:18:13,529 radically changing the very thing that 354 00:18:11,250 --> 00:18:15,960 has been the primary source of 355 00:18:13,529 --> 00:18:21,110 nourishment and inspiration in my life 356 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:24,929 and I get a little reactive around this 357 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:27,510 so the church that taught me to think in 358 00:18:24,929 --> 00:18:29,490 terms of the Church Universal the church 359 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:33,000 that taught me that there are no other 360 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:37,559 people's children is now being 361 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:40,559 threatened at its core in a way that 362 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:44,330 might actually force it to fulfill its 363 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:44,330 highest aspirations 364 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:02,080 so we wanted to make sure it wasn't just 365 00:18:59,290 --> 00:19:04,720 a question and answer down the row but 366 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:08,350 to have some time for some genuine 367 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:11,440 curiosity of one another and reflecting 368 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:14,410 with one another and so we have about 10 369 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,990 minutes and I'll open the floor to you 370 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:19,810 all I invite you to think about 371 00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:22,630 questions that you that might come from 372 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:24,070 something you heard here in the last few 373 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:27,520 minutes that you'd like to know more 374 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:30,040 about that you're curious to explore 375 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:34,540 more with each other or a reflection 376 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:36,940 that you have of your own I think 377 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:40,060 getting to that question of what is that 378 00:19:36,940 --> 00:19:42,190 the core of Unitarian Universalism and 379 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:45,940 we've heard some of that from Sofia this 380 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:48,820 morning right and I think that's where I 381 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:52,860 disagree because I think it's that core 382 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:56,760 that is drawing all of these different 383 00:19:52,860 --> 00:19:59,440 people to Unitarian Universalism and 384 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:02,950 it's that core that we're trying to 385 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:08,050 express in a different way so I don't 386 00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:12,520 see the core being at risk right 387 00:20:08,050 --> 00:20:16,600 I see the expression of that core being 388 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:21,700 at risk and I see that that's where the 389 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:24,640 pushback is coming of saying now we love 390 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:30,340 that core I fully believe that Unitarian 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:34,200 Universalism has at its deepest moments 392 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:39,400 the possibility of our mutual liberation 393 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:43,440 globally but it's that expression of it 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:47,080 that prevents us from as you say 395 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:50,440 reaching that aspiration and so I wonder 396 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:54,130 if we were different in that expression 397 00:20:50,440 --> 00:21:00,010 what minister would you be now and would 398 00:20:54,130 --> 00:21:01,720 it not be even more you know you know 399 00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:05,620 the thing I think about so I have 400 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:08,520 liberation tattooed on my arm and the 401 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:10,600 chalice is inside the oh right because 402 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,640 Unitarian is universalism for me it's 403 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,160 been a liberating ministry like it has 404 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,430 been for a lot of us and so we grew up 405 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,940 you you and so I don't think it's the uu 406 00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:23,530 faith that is the problem I think one 407 00:21:21,940 --> 00:21:24,910 thing I think is just a challenge right 408 00:21:23,530 --> 00:21:27,520 when you go from being a youth and you 409 00:21:24,910 --> 00:21:29,740 get to create your own universe and then 410 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,170 you walk into the church you're like oh 411 00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:34,210 we have no control whatsoever of what 412 00:21:32,170 --> 00:21:36,970 it's about to get said song 413 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:39,730 talked about nothing and you're like 414 00:21:36,970 --> 00:21:42,670 well this is not what I like and I have 415 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:45,280 no power to change it well get us all 416 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:47,290 those on where else air or take a nap on 417 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,030 Sunday morning right so I think like 418 00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:50,680 that's the challenge so like you 419 00:21:49,030 --> 00:21:52,240 literally take and you you and through 420 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,150 this so you take young people where you 421 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:58,510 have control and input and everything 422 00:21:55,150 --> 00:22:01,510 and you can construct the world you want 423 00:21:58,510 --> 00:22:03,490 to live in right so we constructed and 424 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:05,830 there were way more youth of color we 425 00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:08,140 constructed like how we wanted our faith 426 00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:11,050 to be lived in the world and like 427 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:13,720 winning stop brutality when it stopped 428 00:22:11,050 --> 00:22:16,330 people like beating up gay kids stopped 429 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,280 all these things within our faith group 430 00:22:16,330 --> 00:22:20,110 right and then you come and you leave 431 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,600 and now you're listening and in our 432 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:24,010 churches can look how many different 433 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,620 ways I've been to a lot of churches and 434 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:26,920 I'll tell you they don't all look the 435 00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:29,410 same 436 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,570 you would know uu Church from the other 437 00:22:29,410 --> 00:22:33,310 half the time and so then you move to 438 00:22:31,570 --> 00:22:34,360 another place and then the church looks 439 00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:36,820 totally different from the church you 440 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:39,100 grew up in so you don't even feel like 441 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:41,260 you're still in the same faith sometimes 442 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:43,450 so like some of it is what we have to do 443 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:45,310 as a board level but others of it let's 444 00:22:43,450 --> 00:22:47,830 be honest it's like do our churches all 445 00:22:45,310 --> 00:22:50,080 hold the same value set like are we all 446 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:54,280 actually moving together in the same way 447 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:57,040 or not and like are we actually willing 448 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,980 to let go and so if somebody likes me 449 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,200 walks in who's been a uu for a long time 450 00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:04,360 and the other thing I'd say is it embody 451 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,460 quality I didn't say earlier is we have 452 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,840 to teach each other our history and we 453 00:23:06,460 --> 00:23:09,160 have to teach each and we have to do 454 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,470 leadership development we don't do good 455 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,950 leadership development and so if we come 456 00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:13,750 on the 457 00:23:11,950 --> 00:23:15,700 word and you don't and people don't know 458 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:17,799 information they're not supposed to know 459 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:20,919 it they've been there and so we haven't 460 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:23,440 also done a good job as a faith of like 461 00:23:20,919 --> 00:23:26,080 really sharing and helping people learn 462 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,870 and grow and move from and not be stuck 463 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:32,049 in Atlanta what you were what you were 464 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:33,610 saying about um when your youth you make 465 00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:35,260 this whole universe and Unitarian 466 00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:37,750 Universalism is a whole different thing 467 00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:39,990 to me one thing that I realized being on 468 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:43,059 the Board of Trustees this year is that 469 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:46,570 Unitarian Universalism for me is so 470 00:23:43,059 --> 00:23:49,450 different than other generations and I 471 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:52,419 think it's so interesting that I was 472 00:23:49,450 --> 00:23:54,880 confused about the controversy of moving 473 00:23:52,419 --> 00:23:56,740 towards a less white supremacist uu a 474 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,559 because that's something that the youth 475 00:23:56,740 --> 00:24:01,559 have always been holding as a core part 476 00:24:06,269 --> 00:24:10,750 so when you said that it just it brought 477 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:13,330 up so much for me and I think that's 478 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:15,820 what the white supremacy teaching I mean 479 00:24:13,330 --> 00:24:18,639 that's one of the lessons I drew away 480 00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:23,789 from that is that there is a hunger in 481 00:24:18,639 --> 00:24:26,500 our congregations to really understand 482 00:24:23,789 --> 00:24:29,110 radical what radical change might look 483 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:31,210 like and what that radical might change 484 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:33,070 might look like for white people in our 485 00:24:31,210 --> 00:24:35,799 congregations and for people of color 486 00:24:33,070 --> 00:24:38,649 and that there is a hunger for our 487 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:41,169 leadership frankly on the board we have 488 00:24:38,649 --> 00:24:43,480 never gotten the amount of 489 00:24:41,169 --> 00:24:46,929 Correspondence that we got in the past 490 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:51,220 two months over all of this you all 491 00:24:46,929 --> 00:24:54,850 wrote to us like day and night and it 492 00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:58,179 was it was wonderful like there is a 493 00:24:54,850 --> 00:25:01,269 hunger for the Board of Trustees to be 494 00:24:58,179 --> 00:25:06,070 in to really take hold of that 495 00:25:01,269 --> 00:25:09,039 leadership and make sure that we are all 496 00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:11,230 going in the same direction and and that 497 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:13,090 and acknowledging that that direction is 498 00:25:11,230 --> 00:25:15,220 going to be hard it is going to be 499 00:25:13,090 --> 00:25:18,639 uncomfortable it is not just 500 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:20,529 uncomfortable it is painful right for a 501 00:25:18,639 --> 00:25:22,679 lot of people for a lot of different 502 00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:22,679 reasons 503 00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:27,160 and that we need to be in that together 504 00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:29,920 and we can be in that together because 505 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:33,730 we're unitarian universalist like that 506 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:36,310 core is what holds us together as we go 507 00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:38,410 through this pain and discomfort so yeah 508 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:42,280 I mean I think the youth get it because 509 00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:43,980 y'all been doing it all right and we've 510 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,620 been doing it for a very long time 511 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:49,450 that's right let the old man speak and 512 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:51,760 say when you say the word always 513 00:25:49,450 --> 00:25:54,520 we've always been committed to this work 514 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,920 we've always been committed to building 515 00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Beloved Community I chaired the first 516 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:05,650 youth caucus and that and it was at it 517 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:08,920 and it was at a time when we were as 518 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:11,500 convinced as we are right now that we 519 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,040 are at a watershed moment and that if we 520 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:20,370 can just focus if we can just focus and 521 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:24,010 move forward together somehow we can 522 00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:28,990 begin to be more fully the people we 523 00:26:24,010 --> 00:26:32,560 claim we want to be and I grew up just 524 00:26:28,990 --> 00:26:36,130 as you did and as you did shaping our 525 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:40,570 own worship services and finding our own 526 00:26:36,130 --> 00:26:45,700 music and frankly I fell in love with 527 00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:51,520 the old ways and I've lived my life in 528 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:54,550 gratitude and that's another value that 529 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,760 I think we need to embody all in each of 530 00:26:54,550 --> 00:27:00,930 us each and all of us not not falling in 531 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,250 love with the old ways necessarily but 532 00:27:00,930 --> 00:27:07,210 moving through the world with deep 533 00:27:03,250 --> 00:27:10,600 gratitude for the container which is the 534 00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:12,760 church moving through the world willing 535 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:17,560 to change it and willing to be changed 536 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:21,130 by it but at the same time moving at a 537 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:27,130 gratitude at least as much as we move 538 00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:28,900 out of outrage for me that has been that 539 00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:33,330 that balanced striking that balance 540 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:35,890 between gratitude and outrage between 541 00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:36,610 social justice and spiritual development 542 00:27:35,890 --> 00:27:39,850 if you 543 00:27:36,610 --> 00:27:42,970 frame it that way has been the central 544 00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:45,190 task of ministry for me and I think it's 545 00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:48,400 the central task of ministry for us as a 546 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:51,010 movement yes and my hope is that people 547 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,230 under whole that I believe that in order 548 00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:55,360 to do spiritual formation that is just 549 00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:58,059 as work yeah like you can those are not 550 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:00,790 separate leg like spiritual formation is 551 00:27:58,059 --> 00:28:02,140 just as work so like I can't work at a 552 00:28:00,790 --> 00:28:03,730 place that we call movement turns right 553 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,679 at the eyelander Center and so when 554 00:28:03,730 --> 00:28:08,049 people come in we're doing spiritual 555 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:10,150 work because people are in trauma people 556 00:28:08,049 --> 00:28:12,490 are in grief people are in pain people 557 00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:14,770 are also like thrills and glorious and 558 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:18,190 happy and embodied and are like yay for 559 00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:20,169 joy but it's all spirit work right in 560 00:28:18,190 --> 00:28:21,429 whether you over make sure whatever you 561 00:28:20,169 --> 00:28:24,309 call it right cuz we're gonna be all 562 00:28:21,429 --> 00:28:26,230 pluralistic um whatever your words you 563 00:28:24,309 --> 00:28:29,380 use but it's all connected 564 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:30,970 and I'm entwined because so often we 565 00:28:29,380 --> 00:28:33,010 hear that you're like you know that's 566 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:34,540 what we hear from folks well I don't 567 00:28:33,010 --> 00:28:37,240 want to do racial justice this week I 568 00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:41,200 want to do spiritual development right I 569 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:43,870 know but this is what let's be real this 570 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:47,679 is what we hear out in our congregations 571 00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:49,540 and so that work of saying you know I 572 00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:52,799 would like to not do racial justice 573 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:55,690 either but it's my life right 574 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:58,600 it's my children being stopped by the 575 00:28:55,690 --> 00:29:00,370 police it's me being stopped and you 576 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,059 know am I going to get deported it's 577 00:29:00,370 --> 00:29:07,929 it's not something the privilege of 578 00:29:04,059 --> 00:29:13,330 setting it down and seeing that as in 579 00:29:07,929 --> 00:29:16,120 favor of doing spiritual development we 580 00:29:13,330 --> 00:29:17,980 just we just can't and I understand 581 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,200 you're saying to balance but but I think 582 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:21,970 the intersectionality of it is really 583 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,510 where we're trying to get people to go 584 00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:29,470 and and I think that that I get the 585 00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:34,390 gratitude but what I see moving people 586 00:29:29,470 --> 00:29:36,250 is the outrage right and and I think 587 00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:38,710 that's a hard place to be in for a 588 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:43,870 really long time and so I think yeah 589 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:47,290 watershed absolutely we need it outrage 590 00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:48,760 is effective short term and it's not 591 00:29:47,290 --> 00:29:52,300 sustainable No 592 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,030 we don't want rata - no gratitude that's 593 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:57,730 right we don't gratitude for me is 594 00:29:55,030 --> 00:30:00,700 sustainable as a motivator and that's 595 00:29:57,730 --> 00:30:06,520 really all I'm talking about the one 596 00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:09,880 more thing one more thing I'm try to be 597 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,830 very quick when we propose you remember 598 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,260 when we when we wrote the charge to the 599 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:15,970 interim co-presidents team and we 600 00:30:14,260 --> 00:30:18,250 proposed the creation of the commission 601 00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:20,920 some people thought we were proposing 602 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:25,540 the commission of the the Commission as 603 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,960 yet another coordinating body or support 604 00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:33,100 body for racial justice work and that it 605 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,900 was very important but one aspect of the 606 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:37,000 work that we were asking them to look at 607 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:39,480 when in fact what we were doing was 608 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:43,750 asking that a commission be formed to 609 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:46,090 reinvent the way we live together the 610 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:48,010 way we make decisions the way all of it 611 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:50,530 all of it all of it all of it take a 612 00:30:48,010 --> 00:30:54,190 look at all of it because our way of 613 00:30:50,530 --> 00:31:01,870 doing business is in the way of our 614 00:30:54,190 --> 00:31:03,790 faith I often describe being a 615 00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:07,960 facilitator is just being a professional 616 00:31:03,790 --> 00:31:11,770 interrupter of good conversations we 617 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:14,350 only have a couple minutes left and we 618 00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:17,560 want to go out with about 30 seconds if 619 00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:21,400 we can if you can answer for us as 620 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:24,490 trustees of our Association what do what 621 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,040 do you need from our people now and in 622 00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:30,880 the future as you work to make our 623 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:33,550 promises real okay as trustees of our 624 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,610 association what do you need from our 625 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:41,080 people now and in the future as you work 626 00:31:36,610 --> 00:31:43,060 to make our promises real I need that 627 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,550 willingness to go into the difficult 628 00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:46,900 place and stay there and stay there for 629 00:31:45,550 --> 00:31:51,460 a while 630 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:53,020 I think you know I we need I say we 631 00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:56,470 don't need more politicians we don't 632 00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:59,170 need more bankers we don't need more you 633 00:31:56,470 --> 00:32:01,420 know folks in corporate America we need 634 00:31:59,170 --> 00:32:02,659 more unitarian universalist politicians 635 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:05,389 we need more units 636 00:32:02,659 --> 00:32:08,239 Universalist bankers we need Unitarian 637 00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:11,090 Universalism to be the core identity not 638 00:32:08,239 --> 00:32:19,820 just on Sunday but on every other day of 639 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:22,669 the week I think one thing that I found 640 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:25,340 incredibly inspiring this year was the 641 00:32:22,669 --> 00:32:28,999 sheer number of correspondents that we 642 00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:32,059 got this year and it's to my knowledge 643 00:32:28,999 --> 00:32:35,779 that it's never happened to that extent 644 00:32:32,059 --> 00:32:37,940 before and I think that trusting that 645 00:32:35,779 --> 00:32:44,330 our leaders are doing good things but 646 00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:47,359 also having the the will to reach out to 647 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:48,799 us and give us the information that you 648 00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:52,070 might have that we're not thinking about 649 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:53,989 and just showing us that you're 650 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:58,820 passionate about what we're doing in 651 00:32:53,989 --> 00:33:02,690 either a good or a bad way and keeping 652 00:32:58,820 --> 00:33:03,919 us driven to do things because when 653 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:06,200 we're just around the board table 654 00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:08,450 talking about finances or talking about 655 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,210 things that might not seem like they're 656 00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:15,349 doing good work it's important for us to 657 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:19,729 remember that you all care and that 658 00:33:15,349 --> 00:33:20,889 we're doing it for a reason get me to go 659 00:33:19,729 --> 00:33:25,159 uh-huh 660 00:33:20,889 --> 00:33:26,899 all right all right so I'm talking to 661 00:33:25,159 --> 00:33:30,109 the old white people now the rest of you 662 00:33:26,899 --> 00:33:33,169 can listen in if you're interested I'm 663 00:33:30,109 --> 00:33:38,389 not sure why you would be so what I know 664 00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:42,259 is that that I don't know how to do this 665 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:45,649 and I actually know that you don't know 666 00:33:42,259 --> 00:33:47,869 how to do this either so that means we 667 00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:50,419 need to be humble which is not our long 668 00:33:47,869 --> 00:33:54,139 suit it means that we need to set aside 669 00:33:50,419 --> 00:33:55,639 our exceptionalism and get that we need 670 00:33:54,139 --> 00:33:58,820 a lot of the same stuff that everybody 671 00:33:55,639 --> 00:34:01,549 else needs like breathe deeply listen 672 00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:05,169 carefully it's very hard what we're 673 00:34:01,549 --> 00:34:08,839 trying to do and it is going to change 674 00:34:05,169 --> 00:34:13,119 everything so what I need is for you to 675 00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:15,409 join me in stepping in leaning in and 676 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,389 stepping back is another thing we learn 677 00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:20,599 from the you 678 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:23,240 that's what I need don't think you know 679 00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:26,030 cuz you don't and if you think you know 680 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:29,050 the truth you don't the truth is a 681 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:29,050 tangled thicket 682 00:34:37,890 --> 00:34:46,930 so um so there are two pieces to all of 683 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:50,020 my white brethren in the room old young 684 00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:54,240 and otherwise and especially women and 685 00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:56,580 trans people in dinner career folks um 686 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,960 listen to the people of color around you 687 00:34:56,580 --> 00:35:00,640 assume that they know and that we're not 688 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,240 actually the same and then we don't 689 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:08,170 share the same experiences um I would 690 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:11,440 also say that sometimes just shut up 691 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:14,740 just sometimes go get no work if all of 692 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,960 you are saying it okay and like I don't 693 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:18,820 actually have to be the one to say this 694 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,040 is the way I want to make it happen and 695 00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:23,620 to say you know what you might actually 696 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,830 know something and not argue with me for 697 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:28,150 I don't know two weeks at a time around 698 00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:32,380 stuff that we could have just been dealt 699 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:34,360 with um that's one for all of my people 700 00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:41,620 of color indigenous folks all the ways 701 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:43,120 we identify step out the whiteness so 702 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:44,890 I'm saying this on purpose and I'm going 703 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,200 to go a little over because it's really 704 00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:50,080 important we have to step out of the 705 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,740 whiteness ourselves and be grounded in 706 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,390 who the hell we are and bring it because 707 00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:57,700 if we don't step out of the whiteness 708 00:35:55,390 --> 00:35:59,500 withers with our partners whether it's 709 00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:01,990 with our families whether it's with 710 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:05,320 anything we will always bring white 711 00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:06,550 supremacy into the room ourselves and it 712 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,620 so we're going to dismantle white 713 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:10,000 supremacy it is not just the white 714 00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:12,130 people who have to dismantle it 715 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,240 we must this manually in our own ways of 716 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:17,890 being ourselves and then trust like we 717 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:20,500 did in our board table we have a people 718 00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:22,510 of color caucus on our board which has 719 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,670 not happened that we do Thank You Amen 720 00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:26,920 for Greg Boyd in audience do that in 721 00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:29,170 your churches do that in your boards 722 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,860 it's more powerful its strategic and it 723 00:36:29,170 --> 00:36:31,860 makes you stronger 724 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:44,369 please join me in thanking Christina 725 00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:48,860 Andrea el Andrea rob for their voices 726 00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:48,860 their story the committee service