1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,090 2 00:00:07,090 --> 00:00:08,280 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: You are here. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,980 This is the workshop Effective Congregational Immigration 4 00:00:11,980 --> 00:00:13,320 Ministries. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,820 And it is number three zero four. 6 00:00:15,820 --> 00:00:17,890 So thank you so much for coming. 7 00:00:17,890 --> 00:00:19,620 I'm Amy Moses-Lagos. 8 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:24,440 And I just finished serving as the intern minister at the 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,530 Mount Diablo Unitarian Universalist Church in Walnut 10 00:00:27,530 --> 00:00:28,990 Creek, California. 11 00:00:28,990 --> 00:00:31,170 And they have a great immigration task force that 12 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:32,270 we're going to be hearing about a 13 00:00:32,270 --> 00:00:35,030 little bit later today. 14 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:37,480 And I just want to say a little bit about what we had 15 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:38,870 in mind with this workshop. 16 00:00:38,870 --> 00:00:42,860 And before I do that, I want to say thanks to Susan Leslie 17 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:45,490 and the Office for Multicultural Growth and 18 00:00:45,490 --> 00:00:46,690 Witness of the UUA. 19 00:00:46,690 --> 00:00:50,260 They've been really great in helping us plan and organize 20 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:51,380 this workshop. 21 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:54,560 And we have a clipboard if you would like to get on any of 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,650 their mailing lists that we can send around. 23 00:00:57,650 --> 00:01:00,170 So we just want to mention them. 24 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:05,820 And part of what we're hoping today is that we're here to 25 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:08,890 have Justice General Assembly in Arizona to stand on the 26 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:10,830 side of love with immigrant communities and 27 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:12,370 marginalized groups. 28 00:01:12,370 --> 00:01:15,190 And we're doing some really great witness in action. 29 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:19,330 And we're also here to learn and get inspired and to take 30 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:22,730 what we have gained and take it to our home communities. 31 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:27,110 There are immigration issues going on in communities across 32 00:01:27,110 --> 00:01:28,250 the country. 33 00:01:28,250 --> 00:01:32,210 So we're really hoping here we can share some ideas, some 34 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:36,630 wisdom from our experiences, and spark some action for you 35 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:39,180 all to take to your own congregations. 36 00:01:39,180 --> 00:01:42,900 So thank you so much for being here. 37 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:46,510 And at this time, let me just give a quick overview. 38 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:49,480 We will hear from each of our speakers. 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,620 I'll ask some questions to have some dialogue. 40 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:54,950 And then we'll be able to take some 41 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:56,220 questions from the audience. 42 00:01:56,220 --> 00:02:00,100 And we also have an organizer from NDLON, the National Day 43 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:01,710 Laborer Organizing Network. 44 00:02:01,710 --> 00:02:03,860 I'm hoping she'll be with us in just a few minutes. 45 00:02:03,860 --> 00:02:07,240 And she'll share some feedback with us as well. 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,630 So at this time I will go ahead and introduce our 47 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:14,420 speakers or invite our speakers to introduce 48 00:02:14,420 --> 00:02:16,575 themselves. 49 00:02:16,575 --> 00:02:18,810 BOB LANE: Good Morning. 50 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:20,070 My name is Bob Lane. 51 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:22,430 I'm the chair of the immigration task force at the 52 00:02:22,430 --> 00:02:25,990 Mount Diablo Unitarian Universalist Church. 53 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:29,450 The church has 445 members. 54 00:02:29,450 --> 00:02:33,330 It's located in Contra Costa county in California, which 55 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:38,570 runs from San Francisco Bay to the Sacramento delta. 56 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:42,990 It is the 30th highest county in the nation in terms of the 57 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:47,750 number of people deported, even though it is not a very 58 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:52,450 large county population-wise. 59 00:02:52,450 --> 00:02:53,370 SALLY HARTMAN: Good morning. 60 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:54,910 My name is Sally Hartman. 61 00:02:54,910 --> 00:02:59,520 I am President-elect of the Unitarian Universalist Society 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,200 of Iowa City. 63 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,660 And I'm also the former youth leader. 64 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:07,250 HANNAH KAL KILBERINS: I'm Hannah [? Kal ?] 65 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:07,960 [? Kilberins. ?] 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,160 And I go to the same church as Sally. 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,920 And I'm in the youth group. 68 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:15,300 ANTHONY DAVID: I'm Reverend Anthony David. 69 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,830 I'm the senior minister of the Unitarian Universalist 70 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:19,640 Congregation of Atlanta. 71 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:26,090 And we have around 720 members. 72 00:03:26,090 --> 00:03:28,260 SARAHI URIBE: And I'm Sarahi Uribe with the National Day 73 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:29,880 Laborer Organizing Network. 74 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:36,510 And I'm based in Washington, DC. 75 00:03:36,510 --> 00:03:38,630 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: And at this time, I'd like to invite Sally 76 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:42,170 and Hannah to come up and just give an overview of their 77 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:44,340 exciting immigration justice ministries in their 78 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:49,520 congregation. 79 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,100 SALLY HARTMAN: I couldn't have known when we announced that 80 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:57,590 we were going to have a trip to Guatemala, a 81 00:03:57,590 --> 00:04:04,170 intergenerational social action trip, that by spring we 82 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:09,390 would have 29 people signed up to go. 83 00:04:09,390 --> 00:04:11,220 That was quite a surprise to me. 84 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:13,160 But I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,700 Because we have done other trips. 86 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:18,320 And there's been a lot of interest in those trips. 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,320 We have been to New Orleans. 88 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,350 In the last six years, we've been to New Orleans three 89 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:27,360 times and to the border of Mexico one time and 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Washington, DC once. 91 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,010 These trips have meant for us an opportunity to work, to 92 00:04:34,010 --> 00:04:38,450 witness, and to worship together. 93 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:42,030 The reason we go on these trips is to challenge our 94 00:04:42,030 --> 00:04:45,760 assumptions about ourselves and others, 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,870 to understand injustice. 96 00:04:49,870 --> 00:04:53,150 For example, the injustice that we discovered in 97 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:58,610 Guatemala was why people leave to immigrate. 98 00:04:58,610 --> 00:05:02,050 And finally, another reason we go is to create 99 00:05:02,050 --> 00:05:04,490 a culture of activism. 100 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:06,750 And that is one of the outcomes. 101 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:10,320 So some other outcomes are that we've ended up with a 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,580 really strong youth group. 103 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:15,410 We've increased volunteerism. 104 00:05:15,410 --> 00:05:19,190 In fact, two of our college students right now are taking 105 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:23,870 time off from their studies to do volunteerism and activism. 106 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:28,000 One of them is doing it for marriage equality. 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,760 You might have heard about Zack Wells and his video 108 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,100 speech that went viral. 109 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:40,050 Also, there's been an interest in the larger community, the 110 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:43,170 church community, even if they haven't been 111 00:05:43,170 --> 00:05:44,530 on any of the trips. 112 00:05:44,530 --> 00:05:51,530 They really support a lot of our efforts and have then 113 00:05:51,530 --> 00:05:55,790 carried on with different activities of social activism. 114 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:59,470 We have a social activism task force now. 115 00:05:59,470 --> 00:06:01,750 So we've taken a lot of trips. 116 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:05,500 But we're still on the journey, on a new journey, of 117 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:06,870 social activism. 118 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:09,590 Now I'm going to turn it over to Hannah to talk a little bit 119 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:14,120 about her experiences. 120 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,270 HANNAH KAL KILBERINS: So I went to Guatemala. 121 00:06:16,270 --> 00:06:19,550 And I learned a lot while I was there. 122 00:06:19,550 --> 00:06:20,870 And I don't know. 123 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:22,730 I felt like I learned a lot and I grew a 124 00:06:22,730 --> 00:06:23,980 lot in just two weeks. 125 00:06:23,980 --> 00:06:27,090 And I really became aware of other cultures, because it's 126 00:06:27,090 --> 00:06:30,560 so much different there, and how cool it kind of is. 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,580 And I realized that we see a lot of things on the news that 128 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:35,970 are happening that are so bad. 129 00:06:35,970 --> 00:06:37,560 But then we just kind of change the channel. 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,280 It's so bad. 131 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,090 And we don't really do much. 132 00:06:40,090 --> 00:06:41,670 So I feel like going to Guatemala we 133 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:42,680 actually did something. 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,220 And it was actually a lot of fun, too. 135 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:48,600 A lot of people in Guatemala are really poor. 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,350 But even though they're poor, they were really happy and all 137 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:53,350 connected to each other. 138 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:55,250 The first town we were in was smaller. 139 00:06:55,250 --> 00:06:56,360 But everyone knew each other. 140 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,290 And they're all like a huge family. 141 00:06:58,290 --> 00:07:00,050 And they don't have much. 142 00:07:00,050 --> 00:07:01,150 But they know how to live with it. 143 00:07:01,150 --> 00:07:03,680 And here we seem really selfish. 144 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,430 We have so much. 145 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:05,810 And we just keep asking for more. 146 00:07:05,810 --> 00:07:07,550 And we're never satisfied. 147 00:07:07,550 --> 00:07:08,350 And I don't know. 148 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:09,220 I really liked it. 149 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:14,190 It was fun. 150 00:07:14,190 --> 00:07:18,663 [APPLAUSE] 151 00:07:18,663 --> 00:07:19,370 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: Thank you, both. 152 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:21,750 And I'd like to invite Bob Lane to come 153 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:27,940 and share with us. 154 00:07:27,940 --> 00:07:30,270 BOB LANE: One of the handouts is a history of our 155 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:34,190 immigration task force, which pretty much lists all the 156 00:07:34,190 --> 00:07:39,380 various activities that we've prompted in the church. 157 00:07:39,380 --> 00:07:43,300 So what I'd like to do is, rather than going over that, 158 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:49,070 is to talk about the strategies that come through 159 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:52,220 in the events that we've put on. 160 00:07:52,220 --> 00:07:54,450 It's not that these were conscious strategies. 161 00:07:54,450 --> 00:07:59,320 But I believe on reflecting back on what we've done we've 162 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,120 tried to do two things, grow our roots 163 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,220 and spread our wings. 164 00:08:05,220 --> 00:08:08,450 What I mean by grow our roots starts with the individual 165 00:08:08,450 --> 00:08:12,540 members of the task force beginning to understand why we 166 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:17,070 were there, what in our experience brought us there, 167 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:20,760 what connection did we make between our Unitarian 168 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Universalist faith and the work that we did on 169 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,780 immigration. 170 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:27,290 And I think that's important. 171 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:31,880 Because throughout our history the task force has always 172 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,270 tried to make the connection between our faith and the work 173 00:08:35,270 --> 00:08:37,049 we were doing explicit. 174 00:08:37,049 --> 00:08:39,970 So whenever we wrote a letter advocating something or 175 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:44,520 criticizing a policy, we always made sure that we wrote 176 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,960 that letter as a faith group and explained why it is that 177 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,140 we thought our faith called us to take the position that we 178 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:55,250 were taking. 179 00:08:55,250 --> 00:09:00,820 The second thing is we have established a community among 180 00:09:00,820 --> 00:09:05,210 those on the task force that has grown naturally out of the 181 00:09:05,210 --> 00:09:07,700 work that we have done together. 182 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:09,940 But I think that's very important. 183 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:14,770 Because the work is long and sometimes 184 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:17,400 difficult and often joyous. 185 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:23,410 And sharing it just deepens the work and creates bonds 186 00:09:23,410 --> 00:09:26,800 among us that I treasure. 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,220 The third thing is trying to make the work that we're doing 188 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:34,680 a part of the congregation's life. 189 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:38,250 The very first thing we did was we held a worship service. 190 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:41,370 And one of the handouts you have that begins with the word 191 00:09:41,370 --> 00:09:45,650 reflections is a part of what was said at the worship 192 00:09:45,650 --> 00:09:49,950 service in terms of beginning the conversation in the 193 00:09:49,950 --> 00:09:52,320 congregation about immigration. 194 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,490 Not everyone in our congregation feels the way we 195 00:09:55,490 --> 00:09:59,400 do about the issues surrounding immigration. 196 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,920 So what we did is, rather than start with policy discussion 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,620 or an analysis, we invited people who had been or were 198 00:10:08,620 --> 00:10:11,620 undocumented to come and speak to us. 199 00:10:11,620 --> 00:10:14,530 And their voices in the worship 200 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:17,600 service were very powerful. 201 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,650 And having a worship service puts the concerns about 202 00:10:21,650 --> 00:10:25,100 immigration squarely in the midst of the 203 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:27,910 congregation's life. 204 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:32,560 And for those of you who want to start a conversation, you 205 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,810 might take a look at that handout on reflections. 206 00:10:35,810 --> 00:10:40,890 We did a number of educational events, a forum about the 207 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:46,920 impact of NAFTA, the economic ramifications of immigration. 208 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,860 Amy taught a course, the course on Immigration is a 209 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:52,750 Moral Issue that she will talk about. 210 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:59,140 We found that we weren't getting the kind of response 211 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:00,970 that we were looking for. 212 00:11:00,970 --> 00:11:08,570 So we instituted a pattern of one on ones where we picked 213 00:11:08,570 --> 00:11:11,900 people to talk to basically to take their temperature. 214 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,140 Our goal was not to persuade them that they should join us 215 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:19,350 or take a particular view on immigration but to find out 216 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:23,600 where they were on immigration so when we planned an event we 217 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,320 would have that knowledge. 218 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,110 And that helped to expand the area of concern in our 219 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:34,140 congregation about immigration as well as giving us an 220 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:38,150 opportunity to get to know our fellow congregants better. 221 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:43,220 We had several workshops, one on the death of Josseline, one 222 00:11:43,220 --> 00:11:46,290 on talking to the media that was hosted by the California 223 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:50,600 Immigration Policy Center, one on the Domestic Workers Bill 224 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,970 of Rights, which is legislation pending before the 225 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:55,500 California legislature. 226 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:59,650 And then we helped to host a district conference on 227 00:11:59,650 --> 00:12:01,310 immigration. 228 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:05,620 So all of that is under the category of grow your roots. 229 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:09,390 And we will talk a little bit later about spreading your 230 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:13,740 wings, about what we mean by that, which is basically going 231 00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:20,630 beyond the walls of the congregation. 232 00:12:20,630 --> 00:12:23,860 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: And I'll just say briefly about the class. 233 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:24,950 It was a good experience. 234 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:26,070 It wasn't a huge turnout. 235 00:12:26,070 --> 00:12:27,980 We had about nine people. 236 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:30,480 But I think, for the people who took it, it really 237 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,400 deepened their commitment to immigration justice and their 238 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,150 understanding of the issues. 239 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:37,590 And there were a couple of folks who had not been 240 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:40,680 involved in the immigration task force and the justice 241 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:41,890 activities of the church. 242 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:43,620 And that was really their entry point. 243 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:45,230 And they've become very involved. 244 00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:48,180 So it's a great curriculum the UUA does. 245 00:12:48,180 --> 00:12:50,090 It's very easy to lead as a facilitator. 246 00:12:50,090 --> 00:12:52,820 So I definitely recommend it. 247 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:56,020 And I'd like to invite Reverend Anthony David to come 248 00:12:56,020 --> 00:13:00,350 and share with us. 249 00:13:00,350 --> 00:13:01,340 ANTHONY DAVID: Good morning. 250 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:03,880 AUDIENCE: Good morning. 251 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,660 ANTHONY DAVID: At the Unitarian Universalist 252 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:10,130 Congregation of Atlanta, I have a multiple staff team. 253 00:13:10,130 --> 00:13:12,830 And what we do in the course of a year is very much 254 00:13:12,830 --> 00:13:15,070 determined by my executive growth plan that I 255 00:13:15,070 --> 00:13:16,860 establish each year. 256 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:19,770 And I work to develop that plan with my 257 00:13:19,770 --> 00:13:22,480 staff, with lay leaders. 258 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,690 And for the past two years, one of our key goals has been 259 00:13:27,690 --> 00:13:31,480 to make sure that at least 20% of our congregation is 260 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,340 actively engaged in our immigration ministries. 261 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:37,750 And of course, to actively engage people, I 262 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:39,150 mean that's one thing. 263 00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:40,500 That's getting people out there to 264 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:41,900 do legislative action. 265 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,040 But in order to make that happen, there's got to be a 266 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,970 lot of work with far more people to get them informed 267 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:50,810 and to get their hearts involved in this work. 268 00:13:50,810 --> 00:13:54,000 And so in developing this particular goal for my 269 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,330 executive growth plan and working with my ministry staff 270 00:13:58,330 --> 00:14:04,170 and with lay leaders, we decided that four particular 271 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:06,970 directions would be helpful in this regard. 272 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:14,270 And certainly one is the idea of building beloved community, 273 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:18,550 working on developing the fabric of multiculturalism in 274 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:19,420 our congregation. 275 00:14:19,420 --> 00:14:23,450 One of the things that we absolutely eschew at UUCA is 276 00:14:23,450 --> 00:14:26,670 paternalism, the idea that we have all the wisdom and 277 00:14:26,670 --> 00:14:30,170 knowledge and people out there need our help. 278 00:14:30,170 --> 00:14:33,320 We wanted to really understand how we personally connected 279 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,230 with this issue of immigration reform. 280 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:41,510 And so one of the things that we did actually in worship for 281 00:14:41,510 --> 00:14:44,950 six weeks running was we invited congregants to share 282 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:47,540 their immigration stories. 283 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:50,220 And some of the congregations they shared stories of 284 00:14:50,220 --> 00:14:55,210 hardship and of heroism coming from their grandparents or 285 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:56,870 their great-grandparents. 286 00:14:56,870 --> 00:14:59,840 Some congregants they shared their stories of being 287 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,930 undocumented. 288 00:15:00,930 --> 00:15:04,830 And we got to hear these amazing stories, people 289 00:15:04,830 --> 00:15:06,490 talking about their experiences. 290 00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:08,270 And these are our people. 291 00:15:08,270 --> 00:15:09,240 And this helps us. 292 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,920 This helped us to build that sense of beloved community. 293 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,440 We've established a kind of fellowship group for people of 294 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,910 color in our congregation. 295 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:23,120 I worked with them directly in developing a intentionally 296 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,210 multicultural worship experience for Sunday morning. 297 00:15:26,210 --> 00:15:29,030 It was fantastic but developing these partnerships, 298 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:31,690 developing this sensibility within the congregation, 299 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:34,230 building beloved community. 300 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:37,900 And that became the basis for more intentional immigration 301 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:41,700 action focused on the injustices that we were seeing 302 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,740 in Atlanta and beyond. 303 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:46,420 The house bills that we're dealing with were all Arizona 304 00:15:46,420 --> 00:15:56,060 copycat, HB-59, HB-87, sort of the national level law 287-G 305 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:59,250 of the Immigration and Nationalization Act, focusing 306 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:01,090 on these injustices that we're seeing. 307 00:16:01,090 --> 00:16:04,820 So beyond the worship, beyond building beloved community, we 308 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:07,880 wanted that to have center stage in our worship life. 309 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,320 So we did a number of things there. 310 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,750 Of course, I preached on immigration reform. 311 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:16,190 My colleague preached on that getting the congregation 312 00:16:16,190 --> 00:16:18,430 informed and engaged. 313 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:21,810 We have a group in our congregation, the Racial and 314 00:16:21,810 --> 00:16:24,820 Ethnic Concerns group, which is lay led. 315 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:28,310 And they did a lot of work in this particular area featuring 316 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:32,790 book studies and films, lots of conversations around this. 317 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:35,180 We were very much in coalition with a lot of community 318 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:39,230 partners in this particular effort so, for example, the 319 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:42,760 Latin American Association, we did a lot of work with them, 320 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,150 the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, a 321 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:50,160 lot of work with them, the ACLU in terms of legislative 322 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,330 action, the mid-south district, the Standing on the 323 00:16:52,330 --> 00:16:53,340 Side of Love People. 324 00:16:53,340 --> 00:16:57,020 So we were doing this work, this work of raising awareness 325 00:16:57,020 --> 00:17:00,670 in connection with these particular groups and then, of 326 00:17:00,670 --> 00:17:04,910 course, getting out there and actually getting beyond our 327 00:17:04,910 --> 00:17:06,329 congregation walls. 328 00:17:06,329 --> 00:17:10,329 And so many of our people you could find them very often in 329 00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:14,750 the halls of the Georgia state legislature talking to our 330 00:17:14,750 --> 00:17:15,730 elected officials. 331 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:17,800 That was very eye opening, that experience. 332 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,369 Certainly, that was done very much with the ACLU in 333 00:17:20,369 --> 00:17:22,079 partnership with them. 334 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:27,569 I know last summer we had a massive gathering of people 335 00:17:27,569 --> 00:17:31,712 concerned about immigration reform in Atlanta, 10,000, 336 00:17:31,712 --> 00:17:34,340 15,000 people in downtown. 337 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:38,040 And I had the honor of being able to address that group. 338 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,310 And I've got a YouTube video out there. 339 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:41,750 And it was really amazing. 340 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:43,040 You've never lived until you've 341 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,440 spoken to 15,000 people. 342 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,010 And it's about as hot as it is today out there. 343 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:54,240 I know one of the things that we did I wrote a letter to the 344 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,650 Atlanta Journal Constitution, our main newsletter. 345 00:17:57,650 --> 00:18:02,590 And I invited as many as possible of the ministers in 346 00:18:02,590 --> 00:18:05,230 Georgia to join me in signing this letter. 347 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:06,210 It got great publicity. 348 00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:07,610 It was all over the place. 349 00:18:07,610 --> 00:18:09,890 It got a lot of hate mail. 350 00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:11,750 I mean, again, you've never lived until you've gotten 351 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:14,530 reams of hate mail. 352 00:18:14,530 --> 00:18:17,110 But these were some ways in which we got out there. 353 00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:18,320 There's a lot more to say. 354 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,120 But I'll save some of that stuff for the next question. 355 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:24,950 So we're excited. 356 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:27,530 I mean I think a value for us certainly beyond justice is 357 00:18:27,530 --> 00:18:29,430 that of friendship. 358 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:32,410 I'm thinking in particular of a quote that I love from 359 00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:33,550 Martin Luther King, Junior. 360 00:18:33,550 --> 00:18:35,880 He said, "men often hate each other because 361 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,490 they fear each other. 362 00:18:37,490 --> 00:18:40,320 They fear each other because they don't know each other. 363 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,280 They don't know each other because they cannot 364 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,440 communicate. 365 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,340 They cannot communicate because they are separated." 366 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:51,230 And so our work is about healing that sense of 367 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:55,720 separation in ourselves, in our existing communities, and 368 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,440 between ourselves and the larger world. 369 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,040 So I think that our work really was towards friendship, 370 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,190 building friendships. 371 00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:11,340 That's a little bit. 372 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:11,970 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: Thank you. 373 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:15,440 And at this time, I have a few questions 374 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,720 prepared for our panelists. 375 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,850 And I'd actually like to start with Sally and Hannah if 376 00:19:20,850 --> 00:19:23,240 that's all right. 377 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,050 Your congregation does such a great job with having 378 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:28,170 multi-generational justice activities. 379 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:32,160 So my question is, how have youth been involved in your 380 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,270 immigration ministries? 381 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:35,650 And what sorts of multi-generational activities 382 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:41,330 have you done? 383 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:45,650 SALLY HARTMAN: Like I, excuse me, like I said before, we had 384 00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:50,040 done a number of social action trips. 385 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,360 But what I didn't say is how those went. 386 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,000 And we learned from experience that, when you do a social 387 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,310 action trip, when you make it multi-generational because you 388 00:20:03,310 --> 00:20:09,060 want that interaction between the teens and the rest of the 389 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:14,040 congregation, and that's really exciting to see that. 390 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:20,390 Another thing you have to do to involve everyone is begin 391 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:23,430 early to plan the trip and prepare people. 392 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:24,730 So we had orientation. 393 00:20:24,730 --> 00:20:26,790 We had a series of orientations. 394 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:29,870 And those orientations including watching the movie 395 00:20:29,870 --> 00:20:36,010 abUSed The Postville Raid, which is about a raid in Iowa. 396 00:20:36,010 --> 00:20:39,840 And we had people from the university come and talk about 397 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,490 Guatemalan history. 398 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:45,730 So we tried to prepare everyone really well. 399 00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:49,330 Then the trip itself we would have reflection times. 400 00:20:49,330 --> 00:20:52,980 And we would have worship times and times to be together 401 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:56,483 to process what we went through. 402 00:20:56,483 --> 00:21:01,780 Then in the end we did several sessions where we were talking 403 00:21:01,780 --> 00:21:02,840 about the trip. 404 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,790 And it's kind of debriefing. 405 00:21:04,790 --> 00:21:08,220 Because it is a reverse culture shock coming back. 406 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:09,640 So I'm going to turn it over to Hannah. 407 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 And she can talk a little bit more about 408 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,590 the Guatemalan trip. 409 00:21:14,590 --> 00:21:15,530 HANNAH KAL KILBERINS: So we are in 410 00:21:15,530 --> 00:21:17,410 Guatemala for two weeks. 411 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:20,780 And so the first week we were in a smaller town. 412 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,320 And it was a safer town. 413 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,940 You could go out longer and do stuff as long as you were with 414 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:26,360 another person. 415 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:31,110 And we stayed in host families with either by yourself or one 416 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:33,750 other person depending how much Spanish you knew and how 417 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:35,400 comfortable you were. 418 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,220 And every morning we'd go and we were taught Spanish in 419 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:46,030 groups of how much Spanish you know by some teachers there. 420 00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:47,390 And that was really cool. 421 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:48,850 And we'd go around. 422 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:51,180 My group was, I didn't really know any Spanish. 423 00:21:51,180 --> 00:21:52,670 So we'd learned a little. 424 00:21:52,670 --> 00:21:54,750 And then we'd walk around the town and try to try out our 425 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:58,800 Spanish with people that were working around. 426 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,730 And that was pretty fun. 427 00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:02,680 And we did things like planting coffee. 428 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,610 We'd climb up the mountain. 429 00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:05,040 We planted a bunch of coffee. 430 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,620 And we climbed up a big mountain one 431 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:09,980 morning really early. 432 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:11,850 And that was a bunch of fun. 433 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:13,840 Then the second week we were in a bigger town. 434 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000 And we had to be inside at a certain time. 435 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,360 And you had to be in bigger groups. 436 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,340 It was a little more dangerous. 437 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:21,750 And a bunch more adults came that week. 438 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:26,490 And every morning we went to a school. 439 00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:31,600 And the school is, the street is down here, to get up to the 440 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,750 school, there's a big hill. 441 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:34,395 And it's really rainy in Guatemala. 442 00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:36,505 So the hill was dirt and mud. 443 00:22:36,505 --> 00:22:37,920 And so it turned really muddy. 444 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,980 And it was really hard to get up. 445 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,550 And by the time the kids were at the top, they'd be all 446 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:42,760 muddy and dirty. 447 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,840 And that was no fun. 448 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,570 So for the whole week we built a pavement all the way up to 449 00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:48,560 the school. 450 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,030 And so we mixed cement by hand with a bunch of guys. 451 00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:53,430 It was really hard. 452 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:55,230 But it was really fun to watch. 453 00:22:55,230 --> 00:22:58,360 And we went to a place to eat all week. 454 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:05,120 And that was a bunch of fun, too. 455 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:06,010 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: Thank you so much. 456 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:08,980 And I want to take advantage of being the facilitator by 457 00:23:08,980 --> 00:23:12,380 just mentioning the youth at the Mount Diablo UU Church who 458 00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:14,700 have been doing awesome, awesome work. 459 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:16,090 They've been educating themselves. 460 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:19,260 They've been educating their peers in workshops. 461 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:23,410 And they did a great timeline that was in our social hall. 462 00:23:23,410 --> 00:23:24,800 And Nicki's a part of that. 463 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,380 So I just want to say they've been doing awesome work. 464 00:23:27,380 --> 00:23:31,840 And Bob and I haven't been as involved. 465 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,510 But we've definitely seen everything 466 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:34,360 that's been going on. 467 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,520 It's really good. 468 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,860 And my next question I'm actually going to direct at 469 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:44,350 myself, which is about our programming, which is, how 470 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:47,360 have you partnered with local immigrant rights organizations 471 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:52,730 or UU state and national campaigns and organizations? 472 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:54,990 And how have these partnerships been helpful? 473 00:23:54,990 --> 00:23:57,350 So I really wanted to share about this. 474 00:23:57,350 --> 00:24:01,360 Because it's been one of the highlights of my internship 475 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:04,640 experience this year. 476 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,640 We have worked with the East Bay 477 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,130 Interfaith Immigration Coalition. 478 00:24:09,130 --> 00:24:12,550 It's a group of faith leaders committed to immigration 479 00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:16,390 justice who meet monthly to work on issues and to learn 480 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:19,100 about what's going on in the communities. 481 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,090 And they also coordinate monthly vigils at a local 482 00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:25,470 detention center where immigrants are detained. 483 00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:28,710 And they do a really great job of keeping people updated on 484 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:29,430 what's going on. 485 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:30,660 And I've been to the meetings. 486 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:31,870 Bob's been to the meetings. 487 00:24:31,870 --> 00:24:34,410 And some other folks have gone as well. 488 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:39,720 And through this relationship, we learned about a situation 489 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,820 in Berkeley with the Pacific Steel Casting Company, one of 490 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:45,730 the largest employers in Berkeley. 491 00:24:45,730 --> 00:24:48,630 And what happened there is that the Immigrations and 492 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:52,050 Customs Enforcement Agency conducted an I-9 audit, 493 00:24:52,050 --> 00:24:54,290 sometimes called a silent raid. 494 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:56,600 They basically forced the company to check the 495 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,030 immigration paperwork of the workers. 496 00:24:59,030 --> 00:25:03,150 And what happened is that over 200 people were laid off as a 497 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:04,860 result of this audit. 498 00:25:04,860 --> 00:25:07,490 And these were people who had lived in the community for 499 00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:10,260 years, worked there for five to 20 years. 500 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:13,110 So you can imagine a lot of them are parents. 501 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:17,360 So it was a really very immediate devastating economic 502 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,610 impact for the community. 503 00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:23,810 And the workers, they basically had a date when they 504 00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:25,480 knew they were going to be let go. 505 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,340 And they started organizing before that and started to 506 00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:33,310 raise awareness about their situation. 507 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:37,990 And so I actually met many of the former employees through 508 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:41,190 going to these meetings and formed relationships there. 509 00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:44,790 And we were able to invite them to come and share with 510 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:46,670 our congregation in a few different ways. 511 00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:51,080 So we invited Ana Castano, one of the former workers, to come 512 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,740 and speak at a vigil that we had at the detention center. 513 00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:59,540 We also had an event where I invited a few other folks, 514 00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:03,210 David Herrera, Adriana, and Alan, to come and speak with 515 00:26:03,210 --> 00:26:06,170 our congregation about how this had affected their 516 00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:10,090 families and what was really going on in their lives. 517 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:12,990 And it was a great opportunity to make that personal 518 00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:15,930 connection and to have people hear directly from those 519 00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:18,260 impacted by these issues. 520 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:19,720 And we didn't just hear from them. 521 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,110 We also said, how can we help? 522 00:26:22,110 --> 00:26:24,090 And how can we be in partnership with you? 523 00:26:24,090 --> 00:26:27,110 And as a result, we did a food drive. 524 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:30,160 We collected food for the families and 525 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,580 Safeway gift cards. 526 00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:35,700 And they also held a march and rally in Berkeley that they 527 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:36,670 invited us to. 528 00:26:36,670 --> 00:26:38,670 And so we wore our yellow shirts. 529 00:26:38,670 --> 00:26:40,510 And we marched with the faith contingent. 530 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:42,590 So I just think that was so important. 531 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:45,810 Because we were able to be in partnership with a local 532 00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:48,530 immigrant group that was very well-organized and able to 533 00:26:48,530 --> 00:26:51,880 say, how can we be good allies to you? 534 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720 And just one more thing I want to mention is we've also 535 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,700 worked with the Unitarian Universalist Legislative 536 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,770 Ministry California. 537 00:26:59,770 --> 00:27:03,160 They're a state-wide justice ministry that empower youths 538 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,340 to live out their values in the public square. 539 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:09,600 And they have recently started working on immigration. 540 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,700 Bob and I happen to be on the steering committee for that. 541 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,880 So it's been good. 542 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,890 And they, UULM, participated in a lobby day in Sacramento 543 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:22,800 with organizations from all over the state/ And over 400 544 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,010 people participated. 545 00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:28,390 So we went and advocated for the Trust Act. 546 00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:32,270 And the Trust Act would reform the Secure Communities program 547 00:27:32,270 --> 00:27:33,280 in California. 548 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,220 How many of you have heard a little bit about the Secure 549 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:36,210 Communities? 550 00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:38,490 Yeah, OK, great, yeah. 551 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:43,450 So this is a horrible, horrible deportation program 552 00:27:43,450 --> 00:27:46,580 where the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, 553 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:49,230 basically, local law enforcement, when people are 554 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:52,610 arrested, they share the fingerprints with ICE. 555 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:55,730 And if ICE thinks the person might be deportable, they ask 556 00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:58,870 the local jail to hold them for a longer period of time so 557 00:27:58,870 --> 00:28:00,220 they can be transferred to ICE. 558 00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:03,470 Most of the people who are swept up in this program 559 00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:06,230 either don't have a criminal record or just have a minor 560 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:08,350 offense, like a traffic violation. 561 00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:10,490 Families are being split up. 562 00:28:10,490 --> 00:28:14,110 And there's victims of crimes who have been detained. 563 00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:17,740 And it doesn't make communities safe at all. 564 00:28:17,740 --> 00:28:18,670 It makes them less safe. 565 00:28:18,670 --> 00:28:21,530 Because people are afraid to talk to law enforcement. 566 00:28:21,530 --> 00:28:23,450 Anyway, there's a handout about that if you would like 567 00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:24,740 to learn more. 568 00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:27,670 And so we were there to advocate for what would be 569 00:28:27,670 --> 00:28:33,150 California legislation to reform SCom and have 570 00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:36,730 protections for people who are victims of crimes and so on 571 00:28:36,730 --> 00:28:37,220 and so forth. 572 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:39,620 So it would mitigate the harmful effects of that. 573 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:43,070 So those are just two of our partnerships that have been 574 00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:47,410 really helpful that I wanted to mention. 575 00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:53,310 And I would like to ask Anthony, could you say more 576 00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:55,880 about what a multifaceted immigration 577 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:04,680 initiative looks like? 578 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,780 ANTHONY DAVID: Well, we often say that we have all sorts of 579 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:10,800 resources in our congregation, which we do, people resources, 580 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,650 knowledge resources, financial resources. 581 00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:15,440 I think the issue always is, how do we 582 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,010 marshal those resources? 583 00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:19,230 How do we organize them? 584 00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:21,510 How do we all go in the same direction? 585 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:24,620 And depending on the size of the congregation, the answer's 586 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,700 going to be different. 587 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:30,170 But whatever the means to that answer, is, if it's possible 588 00:29:30,170 --> 00:29:34,210 to rally people around a shared vision, amazing things 589 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:35,500 can happen. 590 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,390 And at UUCA, because it's so large, it does require 591 00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:42,720 something like an executive growth plan, which gets my 592 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,820 staff thinking about all the ways in which their actions 593 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:48,330 for the upcoming year can be in alignment with the basic 594 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:49,830 priorities I set. 595 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:53,610 And then working with laypeople, what are the kinds 596 00:29:53,610 --> 00:29:57,360 of things they can do that can harmonize with the basic 597 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,980 priority set? 598 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:02,770 And with that way of gathering it, in my congregation, what 599 00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:07,440 we end up with is we end up with certain things that are 600 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,610 preplanned but also amazing creativity, stuff we could 601 00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:13,830 never have imagined happening popping up. 602 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:15,660 It's a way of releasing creativity. 603 00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:19,040 So it's not like a micromanagement from top down. 604 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,180 I think, when it goes wrong, that's what it's like. 605 00:30:21,180 --> 00:30:23,570 But we've done it well at UUCA. 606 00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:25,550 And so what I want to talk about in terms of the 607 00:30:25,550 --> 00:30:29,220 multifaceted initiative is I just want to share some of 608 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:33,360 these programs that we've done which reflect careful 609 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,390 forethought but then also this wonderful creative upsurge 610 00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:38,750 from the grassroots. 611 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:40,110 It's a wonderful blend of that. 612 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:44,450 So definitely there are four pillars. 613 00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:46,960 We're realizing at UUC that there are at least four 614 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,920 pillars for a multifaceted approach to immigration 615 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,220 justice in our congregations. 616 00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:56,840 And I've already suggested what they are. 617 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,790 One is definitely building beloved community, really 618 00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:03,820 getting clear in our own persons as congregants, where 619 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:09,540 does this issue connect with us on a heart level? 620 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:14,520 And so for example, the immigration testimonies in 621 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800 worship was just a wonderful way of just starting that 622 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,160 conversation among ourselves. 623 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,630 Most of us are immigrants. 624 00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:27,530 And so we've got stories to tell, to share. 625 00:31:27,530 --> 00:31:29,780 It's not just about the other. 626 00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:32,720 We don't have an other here. 627 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,910 Another way in which we really worked to build this beloved 628 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:38,370 community among us was to create that fellowship group 629 00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:40,310 called Cultural Mosaic. 630 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:42,180 And if you check our website out, you can find out more 631 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,620 information about that fantastic group, that 632 00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:47,920 wonderful group, where people of color can gather and can 633 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,390 feel at home with each other. 634 00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:51,780 It's a feeling of empowerment. 635 00:31:51,780 --> 00:31:54,730 It's a friendship activity group. 636 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:58,310 It's spawned various covenant groups or small groups, groups 637 00:31:58,310 --> 00:32:00,390 that are more intentional about particular topics they 638 00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:03,310 want to focus on, spirituality groups. 639 00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:06,850 But the basic fellowship group is a place where the people of 640 00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:10,330 color in our congregation, and we have a lot of them, can 641 00:32:10,330 --> 00:32:13,620 find a place to feel safe and to feel heard and kind of 642 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:16,350 along the same lines as an interweave group in other 643 00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:18,850 congregations and various groups like that. 644 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:21,610 And that's been wonderful for the fabric of our 645 00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:22,310 congregation. 646 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:24,730 So building that beloved community, ways in which we 647 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:28,200 can acknowledge differences. 648 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,510 I mean I think our Universalist emphasis on love 649 00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:34,180 is really important here, a love that's curious about 650 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:39,250 differences, a love that wants to connect and unite. 651 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:44,670 And that's building beloved community. 652 00:32:44,670 --> 00:32:48,000 A second pillar is bringing in the worship life. 653 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,720 Worship gathers people. 654 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,810 That is just the central place in which people come, in 655 00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:53,490 congregations. 656 00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:57,220 It's what really connects us and so emphasizing the kinds 657 00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:59,330 of things that happen in the worship service. 658 00:32:59,330 --> 00:33:03,620 We've heard wonderful examples of this already. 659 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:07,060 So I won't spend more time on that. 660 00:33:07,060 --> 00:33:10,170 A third pillar, getting the congregation informed and 661 00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:12,560 engaged about this particular issue, one of the favorite 662 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,150 things that we did, for me, one of the favorite things 663 00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:19,280 that we did was we hosted an immigration summit. 664 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,950 And I think we gathered maybe 60, 70 people to 665 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:27,480 come to that event. 666 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,120 We started out by sharing our stories. 667 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,510 We had an immigration timeline in our social hall. 668 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:38,430 It covered our entire social hall, again, getting a sense 669 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:41,700 of what is our personal connection with this 670 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,860 particular issue. 671 00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:47,260 And then we talked about grounding our work in our 672 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:51,630 Unitarian Universalist values and how each of our values is 673 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,970 immediately directly related to this particular issue. 674 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:56,360 And I think that's very important. 675 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,050 Because our beloved community is not 676 00:33:58,050 --> 00:33:59,360 generic beloved community. 677 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,090 It is Unitarian Universalist beloved community. 678 00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:05,140 And so how do our UU values relate to this 679 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,900 work that we're about? 680 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,560 And then getting really clear about what's happening in 681 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,790 Georgia and here's where our coalition 682 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:13,940 partners are really important. 683 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:17,030 Jerry Gonzales, the executive director of GALEO, came to 684 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:19,989 speak and really did a great job in giving us a sense of 685 00:34:19,989 --> 00:34:22,920 what is happening right now in Georgia. 686 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,429 What are the needs? 687 00:34:24,429 --> 00:34:27,290 A member of our congregation is a state senator, Senator 688 00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:27,909 Nan Orrock. 689 00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:28,900 She was there as well. 690 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,020 She gave us a sense of what's going on in the state 691 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:32,909 legislature. 692 00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:38,639 And then Barbara Burnham, the lead in our racial and ethnic 693 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,870 concerns group, did some work with us. 694 00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:43,800 Then Q&A then small groups and then what's our action plan? 695 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,190 What are we going to do from here? 696 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:49,199 And so just a wonderful way in the course of five or six 697 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,860 hours of organizing, of getting people excited, 698 00:34:51,860 --> 00:34:54,139 getting people personally connected with the issue. 699 00:34:54,139 --> 00:34:56,420 I'd highly recommend some kind of tactic like that, an 700 00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:57,740 immigration summit. 701 00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:59,730 That was really good for us. 702 00:34:59,730 --> 00:35:03,440 Finally, a fourth pillar of a multifaceted initiative is 703 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,890 certainly getting out there, getting a way of making that 704 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:07,420 connection with the larger community. 705 00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:09,580 And again, I've suggested some ways we've done that. 706 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:14,450 But one thing I really want to speak to is our fiesta de 707 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:18,930 libros mobile library project. 708 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:21,480 Now, one of the organizations that we worked with in our 709 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,380 immigration initiative was our district and this past year at 710 00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:27,640 our healthy congregations conference, and this is the 711 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,920 mid-south district that I'm in, at our healthy 712 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,780 congregations conference, which was held at UUCA, the 713 00:35:34,780 --> 00:35:37,180 focus was on immigration reform. 714 00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:40,070 Jerry Gonzales, that executive director of GALEO, he was the 715 00:35:40,070 --> 00:35:44,670 keynote speaker talking about this issue. 716 00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:47,520 One of the I guess more exciting things I'd say at 717 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,720 this conference was a multi-generational workshop 718 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,450 and field trip. 719 00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:56,770 And the project I mentioned a moment ago emerged out of this 720 00:35:56,770 --> 00:36:01,950 multi-generational experience where people of all ages were 721 00:36:01,950 --> 00:36:05,050 talking about the history and traditions and culture and 722 00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:09,040 religious items of the various cultures in our community 723 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,700 wrestling with the issue of immigration. 724 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,660 And then the entire group took a field trip over to Plaza 725 00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:19,230 Fiesta, which is like kind of a main center of Hispanic 726 00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:22,410 culture in our community and not very far off from where we 727 00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:26,770 are at UUCA on a place called Buford Highway, which is just 728 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:31,770 this fantastic corridor which just features, food, and shops 729 00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:33,550 and so on from people all around the world. 730 00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:37,800 Atlanta is just overflowing with ethnic 731 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,180 and cultural diversity. 732 00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:43,190 But a group of our kids going over to Plaza Fiesta, seeing 733 00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:46,100 what was happening there, and this idea simmering or 734 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,890 bubbling up out of this experience very creatively out 735 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:51,200 of the heart of one of our main leaders, Laura 736 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:57,390 Murvartian, who is a member of the GALEO leadership team who 737 00:36:57,390 --> 00:37:01,000 was herself undocumented for many years, she had this 738 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,370 wonderful idea. 739 00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:06,220 What would it be like in terms of building friendship to have 740 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:10,420 a mobile library featured here at Plaza Fiesta? 741 00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:15,420 And so this wonderful program grew out of this 742 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:19,850 multi-generational workshop at our mid-south district healthy 743 00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:21,850 congregations conference. 744 00:37:21,850 --> 00:37:23,680 And I want to just say something very briefly about 745 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,964 the mobile library project. 746 00:37:28,964 --> 00:37:36,310 I want to find the mission statement to it. 747 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:37,600 When you got a big congregation, you 748 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,740 got a lot of paperwork. 749 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,390 There's just too much going on. 750 00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:42,730 You know what I'm saying? 751 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:45,090 When you're the senior minister. 752 00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:49,360 you got to run this stuff down the best you can. 753 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,990 Well, I'll just say it's about building friendship. 754 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:54,200 It's about strengthening people's lives. 755 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,050 It's about literacy. 756 00:37:57,050 --> 00:38:01,580 And that's something that is very important for the Latino 757 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:03,090 culture, for our culture. 758 00:38:03,090 --> 00:38:06,410 It's a place where we can find common ground. 759 00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:14,280 And so I think the average is 70 or 80 children served in 760 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,950 the course of a couple hours in the midst of just this 761 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:20,680 amazing Plaza Fiesta experience, people from 762 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,110 different cultures meeting and talking and connecting. 763 00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:26,430 And it's just this wonderful program. 764 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:29,580 And this is just one of the ways in which we're building 765 00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:33,800 those partnerships and friendships and getting across 766 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,870 the highway. 767 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:36,680 We kind of talk about it on those terms. 768 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,090 So again, it's not about paternalism. 769 00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:41,570 It's about how can we share in this effort to strengthen the 770 00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:43,230 fabric of our society. 771 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:44,940 It's legislative action for sure. 772 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:47,250 But it's more than that, too. 773 00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:49,880 So it's a little bit about a multifaceted, the 774 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:56,970 four pillars of it. 775 00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:59,610 BOB LANE: I have just a couple of quick comments on the 776 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:03,280 question of finding and establishing partnerships. 777 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,240 Many immigrants are low-income workers. 778 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,090 And because of their status they are exploited as 779 00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:11,110 low-income workers. 780 00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:15,430 In some instances, there are unions that represent them. 781 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:20,400 And those unions are potential allies which we don't look to 782 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,660 enough to establish partnerships with. 783 00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:26,480 There's a country club in the town I live in, Pleasanton, 784 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,570 California, that locked out its primarily immigrant 785 00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:37,210 workers two and 1/2 years ago because those workers are 786 00:39:37,210 --> 00:39:38,400 represented by a union. 787 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,200 And the union has devoted its resources to keeping those 788 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,770 workers organized and energized and supporting them 789 00:39:46,770 --> 00:39:49,410 through the strike fund in the county. 790 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:52,410 For two and 1/2 years, those workers have showed up seven 791 00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:54,760 days a week picketing the club. 792 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,920 They've had special events periodically to 793 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,550 get community support. 794 00:40:01,550 --> 00:40:07,240 The culture of solidarity that I have witnessed within that 795 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,840 union and between unions is something that we can all 796 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,570 learn from. 797 00:40:11,570 --> 00:40:16,360 We use that word often very easily. 798 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,670 But what I have seen in that culture is that those people 799 00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:22,340 walk the talk. 800 00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:26,510 So look around and see if there are places where the 801 00:40:26,510 --> 00:40:30,230 immigration issue and workers' rights overlap. 802 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:35,030 Because that presents a whole potential area of allies. 803 00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:37,550 Secondly, the Secure Communities program is 804 00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:41,220 organized by the government on a county by county basis. 805 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:44,440 They have basically enlisted all county law enforcement 806 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,870 agencies as immigration agents. 807 00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:51,540 That presents an enormous opportunity for organizing on 808 00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:52,900 a local level. 809 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,170 In many, many, many counties in this country, there are 810 00:40:56,170 --> 00:40:59,730 already organizations working to push back against Secure 811 00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:00,680 Communities. 812 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,340 We don't have to invent the wheel. 813 00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:05,630 We can join with them. 814 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:09,870 We participate in a task force in Contra Costa county. 815 00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,130 We've met with the sheriff. 816 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:13,390 We've gotten some information from the sheriff. 817 00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:16,390 We're meeting with the board of supervisors. 818 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:18,700 And there are several counties in California that have 819 00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:25,130 already turned down any further cooperation with the 820 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:27,210 Secure Communities program. 821 00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:29,860 And that makes a huge difference. 822 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:34,160 Since we started meeting here today, approximately 50 people 823 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,360 have been deported. 824 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,230 Every hour of every day in the whole year, 45 people an hour 825 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:44,590 are deported. 826 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:48,790 And the Secure Communities program is a major way that 827 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:50,730 the government is doing it. 828 00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:56,000 And the more that we can push back, the more that policy is 829 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,900 likely to change and the more that we are likely to stop 830 00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:03,610 deportation of people who represent no threat whatsoever 831 00:42:03,610 --> 00:42:06,900 but, in fact, are contributing to our society. 832 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,940 And because it's organized on a county by county basis, 833 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:13,110 there is a real opportunity for Unitarian Universalist 834 00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:16,120 churches in the county to get together and to get together 835 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,820 with other organizations to push back 836 00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:21,710 against that program. 837 00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:22,520 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: Thank you so much, Bob. 838 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,560 Those are really important points. 839 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,380 Thanks, everyone. 840 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:30,130 And at this time, I'd like to invite Sarahi to share some of 841 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:34,150 your perspective from NDLON and how NDLON has found 842 00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:36,680 partnering with faith communities to be helpful and 843 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:45,710 just any comments you have based on our conversation. 844 00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:47,810 SARAHI URIBE: Well, thanks so much for having me. 845 00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:50,250 Again, my name is Sarahi, and I'm with the National Day 846 00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:52,110 Laborer Organizing Network. 847 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:56,230 We're a national network of 41 affiliate organizations that 848 00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:58,910 work with day laborers either in street corners 849 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:00,790 or in worker centers. 850 00:43:00,790 --> 00:43:03,250 And we've launched an initiative called the 851 00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:05,040 Restoring Trust Campaign. 852 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,850 And it's exactly what Bob just mentioned. 853 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:11,470 Because we're faced with these historic levels of 854 00:43:11,470 --> 00:43:14,660 deportations and we've seen our family members, friends, 855 00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:18,300 and our communities really devastated by the Secure 856 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:23,090 Communities program, we really are excited about the fact 857 00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:28,230 that there is a way out, there is a way that we can demand 858 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:31,540 that our local officials, that our taxpayers dollars, that 859 00:43:31,540 --> 00:43:36,740 our local law enforcement is not complicit with this broken 860 00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:40,300 and draconian immigration enforcement system. 861 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:43,850 And in Washington, DC, where I live and I also locally 862 00:43:43,850 --> 00:43:48,630 organize, I've worked closely with Craig Roshaven from the 863 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:51,260 Unitarian Universalist Association. 864 00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:55,450 And he's just been wonderful in terms of standing right 865 00:43:55,450 --> 00:43:59,460 next to us at press conferences, at rallies. 866 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:05,080 He's testified before our council members and also 867 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,910 nationally reaching out to other denominations to join. 868 00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:14,320 So the Restoring Trust Campaign is now a part of the 869 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,330 Interfaith Immigrant Coalition nationally. 870 00:44:17,330 --> 00:44:19,980 And there are a number of other denominations that are 871 00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,760 also starting to participate. 872 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,810 So in Washington, DC, I'm actually happy to report that 873 00:44:25,810 --> 00:44:30,020 just this past month we did pass our legislation. 874 00:44:30,020 --> 00:44:34,460 And now our jail is not going to hold people for immigration 875 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:37,210 if they have not been convicted of a violent and 876 00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:38,910 dangerous crime. 877 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:40,230 And that-- well, thank you. 878 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:44,890 [APPLAUSE] 879 00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:47,220 SARAHI URIBE: And that was part of a broad coalition, 880 00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:50,250 including the Unitarian Universalist Association, and 881 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:52,800 really inspired from the work that's happening in 882 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,030 California, which I think is one of the strongest areas in 883 00:44:57,030 --> 00:45:00,120 terms of pushing back against these programs. 884 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,330 In Massachusetts, Mass Action, Jesse Jaeger, I don't know if 885 00:45:03,330 --> 00:45:04,030 you guys know him. 886 00:45:04,030 --> 00:45:07,080 But they've been incredibly involved in these efforts 887 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,430 locally as well. 888 00:45:08,430 --> 00:45:12,080 They're trying to also pass local ordinances, local 889 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,720 policies, that ensure that local governments are not 890 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:19,070 turning people over who pose no threat to public safety. 891 00:45:19,070 --> 00:45:21,220 And of course, in California, the Trust 892 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:22,770 Act was just mentioned. 893 00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:27,960 Just this morning the New York Times endorsed the Trust Act. 894 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,760 It's huge. 895 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,880 Yeah, that deserves another round of applause. 896 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,100 But I can't emphasize how important it would be to pass 897 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,300 this legislation. 898 00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:43,140 California has deported 78,000 people through SCom, more than 899 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:46,060 Maricopa county, Arizona if you can believe that. 900 00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:51,620 So California is seen as this progressive beacon or a place 901 00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:53,700 that was literally built by immigrants. 902 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:58,300 And yet, it's deporting more people than Maricopa county 903 00:45:58,300 --> 00:45:59,930 through SCom. 904 00:45:59,930 --> 00:46:03,050 Seven out of 10 of the people deported through SCom in 905 00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:06,010 California are for minor offenses or no 906 00:46:06,010 --> 00:46:07,760 conviction at all. 907 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,490 So that's the scale. 908 00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:13,250 That's the kind of impact that passing the Trust Act would 909 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:14,150 have in California. 910 00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:19,360 Thousands of people would be prevented from deportation and 911 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,220 would be able to walk home to their families. 912 00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:23,020 So it's huge. 913 00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:27,730 And I think it would also change the national debate if 914 00:46:27,730 --> 00:46:30,520 a place as big as California pass something like this. 915 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,070 So I think it's great that the UU legislative ministry of 916 00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:38,510 California is working on this and that so many other 917 00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:41,590 organizations across the state of California are working on 918 00:46:41,590 --> 00:46:43,970 it locally and statewide. 919 00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:46,530 And that's really what the Restoring Trust Campaign is. 920 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:49,490 We invite folks to, as Bob mentioned, 921 00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:51,040 find those local partners. 922 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160 Come talk to me. 923 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,700 On the Interfaith Immigration Coalition website, there's a 924 00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,570 map that lists those local partners. 925 00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:03,620 And Craig and I are very happy to work with folks to kind of 926 00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:13,110 make those connections as well. 927 00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:14,410 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: All right, well, I'll ask one more 928 00:47:14,410 --> 00:47:16,020 question of our panelists. 929 00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,320 And then we'll open it up to questions from the audience. 930 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,070 So start thinking about what you might 931 00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:21,560 want to ask this group. 932 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,120 And for all of you, if you had to think of one suggestion 933 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,180 about starting or developing an immigration ministry to 934 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:33,690 share with this audience, what would it be? 935 00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:34,730 And I'll start with Bob. 936 00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:36,910 And we can pass the mike that way. 937 00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:40,870 BOB LANE: Well, I would just underscore what Anthony said. 938 00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:45,230 Having a worship service organized around the 939 00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:48,770 phenomenon of immigration is crucial. 940 00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:51,840 It puts the issue right in the center of a 941 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,440 congregation's life. 942 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,950 And it sends the message that the values that we cherish as 943 00:47:57,950 --> 00:48:06,040 a movement need to be brought to bear on what's happening in 944 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,890 our country. 945 00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:13,000 And what's happening is awful. 946 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,440 I don't know if any of you are aware. 947 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,170 But one of the provisions of SB-1070 holds that, if you 948 00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:24,470 hire a day laborer who turns out to be undocumented, you 949 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:26,780 have committed a crime. 950 00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:32,260 If you see someone injured on the side of the road and you 951 00:48:32,260 --> 00:48:34,790 give them a ride to the hospital and they turn out to 952 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:38,580 be undocumented, you have committed a crime. 953 00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:43,440 The good Samaritan would be hauled into jail in Arizona if 954 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,370 the person that he helped was undocumented. 955 00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:51,090 The purpose of measures like this is to separate 956 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:52,460 undocumented people. 957 00:48:52,460 --> 00:48:57,420 It's to isolate them so in the notorious words of Mitt Romney 958 00:48:57,420 --> 00:48:59,370 they will self-deport. 959 00:48:59,370 --> 00:49:02,860 One of the most important things that we can do is make 960 00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:08,940 sure that we stand with them, that we do not allow them to 961 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:12,130 be separated and isolated. 962 00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:15,800 That is our calling when we say we are all part of the 963 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,190 interdependent web of existence and we call for 964 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:25,150 world community among all people and justice for all. 965 00:49:25,150 --> 00:49:29,390 And I think that's crucial for us to stand with these people 966 00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:35,220 and let everybody know that we're standing there. 967 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:36,170 SALLY HARTMAN: I agree with Bob 968 00:49:36,170 --> 00:49:38,010 about the worship services. 969 00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:41,880 But my tip is to involve youth. 970 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,090 Tomorrow, during the National Day of Service for UUs, some 971 00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:51,030 youth and adults will be working together on some 972 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:53,840 social justice issues. 973 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,690 So whether it's trips, whether it's doing what you are doing 974 00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:02,600 as adults, but my suggestion is involved the youth, invite 975 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,452 them, ask them what they want to do. 976 00:50:07,452 --> 00:50:07,934 HANNAH KAL KILBERINS: What? 977 00:50:07,934 --> 00:50:09,380 Nothing from you? 978 00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:10,350 She's talking for me. 979 00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:10,805 ANTHONY DAVID: She said it all? 980 00:50:10,805 --> 00:50:11,260 HANNAH KAL KILBERINS: Uh-huh. 981 00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:14,730 ANTHONY DAVID: Come on. 982 00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:15,540 Really? 983 00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:15,840 Sure? 984 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,190 You sure? 985 00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:18,030 She talked-- 986 00:50:18,030 --> 00:50:19,330 what about youth empowerment? 987 00:50:19,330 --> 00:50:21,380 Whatever happened to youth empowerment? 988 00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:22,480 Oh, so you told her to say that. 989 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:22,800 OK. 990 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,860 All right. 991 00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:28,510 My tip is have a goal, have a goal. 992 00:50:28,510 --> 00:50:30,630 This work is important enough to engage the entire 993 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:31,910 congregation. 994 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:33,140 And it's multifaceted. 995 00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:36,110 It speaks to all aspects of our being. 996 00:50:36,110 --> 00:50:40,460 So if the congregation can establish a goal for itself, 997 00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:41,600 we're going to engage this. 998 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,190 We want at least 20%, 40% of our congregations doing 999 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:47,280 something directly about this. 1000 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,000 Then what's involved in making that happen? 1001 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,300 And it starts the creative gears going. 1002 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:54,210 And it gets people in different areas of the 1003 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:56,620 congregation thinking together. 1004 00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:59,520 And your congregation may be a smaller congregation where 1005 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,170 perhaps your board, for example, directs the various 1006 00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:04,130 program areas. 1007 00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:05,980 Get the board talking about it. 1008 00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:07,960 I mean how can religious education 1009 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,400 contribute to this effort? 1010 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,170 How can the worship life contribute to it? 1011 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:15,080 How can the other various areas of the congregation 1012 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,840 contribute to this effort? 1013 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,510 And so that leads to that multifaceted effect. 1014 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:23,680 That leads to wonderful, creative bubbling up of ideas 1015 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,390 that you would never have gotten to unless you had set 1016 00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:31,260 that goal initially out there, we want X percentage of our 1017 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:34,210 congregants to be personally involved in this issue. 1018 00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:35,040 And then run with it. 1019 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:35,800 See what happens. 1020 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,820 And it's just goals change congregations. 1021 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:39,895 So that's my tip. 1022 00:51:39,895 --> 00:51:41,340 Do you have a tip for us? 1023 00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:45,390 SARAHI URIBE: I do, well, mostly just a plug, again, for 1024 00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:49,120 the Restoring Trust Campaign to partner with local 1025 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,050 immigrant rights groups, to ask those questions of your 1026 00:51:53,050 --> 00:51:55,650 law enforcement and your local elected officials. 1027 00:51:55,650 --> 00:52:00,540 Why are we complicit in this deportation enforcement when 1028 00:52:00,540 --> 00:52:02,030 we don't have to be? 1029 00:52:02,030 --> 00:52:02,770 We have a choice. 1030 00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:11,430 So that's my little plug. 1031 00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:11,830 AMY MOSES-LAGOS: Great. 1032 00:52:11,830 --> 00:52:13,850 So we'll go ahead and open it up to 1033 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:15,530 questions from all of you. 1034 00:52:15,530 --> 00:52:18,520 If you could please come to the mike and speak in to the 1035 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,260 mike, that would be great so we can all hear you and it can 1036 00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:22,750 be recorded. 1037 00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:25,230 And if anyone is not able to get to the mike, feel free to 1038 00:52:25,230 --> 00:52:25,940 raise your hand. 1039 00:52:25,940 --> 00:52:27,820 And we can bring you a mike. 1040 00:52:27,820 --> 00:52:53,122