1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,620 2 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:09,290 SPEAKER 1: Welcome, everybody. 3 00:00:09,290 --> 00:00:13,260 I cannot begin to tell you what an honor and a privilege 4 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:17,980 it is for me to introduce our speaker this morning. 5 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:21,960 I've been serving our congregation in Tucson for six 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,860 years now, which means that I'm the migrant. 7 00:00:27,860 --> 00:00:33,210 The Garcia family has roots in Tucson that go back six 8 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:35,000 generations. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,280 So what Isabel brings to us today is a perspective that is 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,780 very much grounded in memory and in history. 11 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:50,700 So the history of this border land is very much 12 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,410 a part of her DNA. 13 00:00:52,410 --> 00:00:53,690 It's in her bones. 14 00:00:53,690 --> 00:00:55,510 It's in her blood. 15 00:00:55,510 --> 00:01:01,460 And in addition to that, her family has a long tradition of 16 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:08,520 activism, working for everything from civil rights 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,870 for African Americans to labor union organizing 18 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:14,860 in the copper mines. 19 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:19,330 So it's no mistake that Isabel comes to us with that passion 20 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:21,040 of activism. 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,350 And she also is a lawyer, and just a 22 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:28,510 downright good human being. 23 00:01:28,510 --> 00:01:33,690 So it's, again, my honor and my privilege to introduce to 24 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:35,880 you Isabel Garcia. 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:42,240 I hope you will just absorb her wisdom and her charm and 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,320 her spirit and her passion. 27 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,720 And I believe we have one brief 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,080 announcement before Isabel. 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,650 But thank you for being here. 30 00:01:51,650 --> 00:01:53,084 ISABEL GARCIA: Thank you so much. 31 00:01:53,084 --> 00:01:58,350 [APPLAUSE] 32 00:01:58,350 --> 00:01:58,820 SPEAKER 2: Good morning. 33 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:00,090 I just have a brief announcement 34 00:02:00,090 --> 00:02:01,710 for the Spanish speakers. 35 00:02:01,710 --> 00:02:13,480 [SPEAKING IN SPANISH] 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:20,830 Thank you. 37 00:02:20,830 --> 00:02:21,820 ISABEL GARCIA: Buenos dias. 38 00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:23,760 Good morning to all of you. 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,990 I can't tell you how happy I am to be here. 40 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:29,570 But I have to apologize for a couple of things. 41 00:02:29,570 --> 00:02:33,610 I am also at another conference in Tempe related to 42 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:35,340 my work, and I'm the director of my office. 43 00:02:35,340 --> 00:02:39,560 I have to be there at noon to give out an award. 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,150 So I will end at 11:30, hopefully, instead of 11:45, 45 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:46,340 and unfortunately can't be around for questions. 46 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:49,490 But I know there's so much, so much to cover. 47 00:02:49,490 --> 00:02:52,780 And I know this is just a beginning for all of us. 48 00:02:52,780 --> 00:02:55,760 I see it as-- for all of you and for all of us, we have to 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,410 see everything as a new beginning. 50 00:02:58,410 --> 00:03:02,190 And for us that you come at this historic moment to 51 00:03:02,190 --> 00:03:08,620 Phoenix, to the center here in Arizona, is so important. 52 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:12,000 So more than anything I want to thank you. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,290 I want to thank you and thank you and thank you for coming. 54 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:23,270 Because we cannot have fair immigration, fair communities 55 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:28,490 without all of us embracing and realizing our full 56 00:03:28,490 --> 00:03:30,810 humanity and the reality of immigration. 57 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:33,550 So today I know there's a lot to say. 58 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:34,890 So I'll get on. 59 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:38,630 Its "A Voice from the Border," it's titled. 60 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:42,110 And in some ways it's way beyond the border, but I'm 61 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:46,530 glad it's titled about the border, because that's in fact 62 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:47,890 our reality. 63 00:03:47,890 --> 00:03:50,490 It's a reality that is coming to you, and 64 00:03:50,490 --> 00:03:52,350 that's why you're here. 65 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:55,350 The border has come to all of you. 66 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:59,410 And that's the reality that we as the 99% are waking up. 67 00:03:59,410 --> 00:04:03,790 Not the whole 99% have woken up about what the 1% is doing. 68 00:04:03,790 --> 00:04:09,070 And certainly, critically involved the 1% are in the 69 00:04:09,070 --> 00:04:14,930 whole issue of migration, not just on our borders, Canada 70 00:04:14,930 --> 00:04:19,720 and Mexico, but beyond, where Latin America sees us as their 71 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,820 northern front. 72 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:25,260 And we are the southern front as we see it. 73 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:29,710 Because as a person in the United States, I have seen 74 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:32,880 that we are the southern front, and we are in fact the 75 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,300 laboratory. 76 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,490 To tell you the story about the border, I can't just start 77 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:39,610 where I want to start, which is 1994. 78 00:04:39,610 --> 00:04:43,420 There has to be a more historical perspective. 79 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:49,010 And I really believe that our country has to engage in a 80 00:04:49,010 --> 00:04:53,600 national dialogue about migration, immigration, and 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,490 who we are as a country. 82 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:58,290 We tout ourselves as a nation of immigrants, 83 00:04:58,290 --> 00:05:00,870 and yet no one knows-- 84 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:03,230 pretty much, not everyone-- 85 00:05:03,230 --> 00:05:04,240 some people know-- 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,570 but no one knows in this country the history of 87 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:07,210 immigration. 88 00:05:07,210 --> 00:05:10,000 And I face up to it every single day where I go to 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,800 different congregations, different conferences where 90 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,530 people have no idea about the history of immigration. 91 00:05:16,530 --> 00:05:20,580 When people say to you, how can we have 11 million 92 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:23,170 undocumented immigrants in our country, 93 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:26,890 that's a great question. 94 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:32,060 That's an opportunity for us to engage the public into the 95 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:35,260 reality of immigration. 96 00:05:35,260 --> 00:05:38,660 I don't have time really to talk about everything that 97 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:39,710 needs to be talked about. 98 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:44,790 But you know that these were the Americas. 99 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:46,950 These were indigenous lands. 100 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:50,970 These were Spanish lands, eventually Mexican lands. 101 00:05:50,970 --> 00:05:56,010 Tuscon was an actual Mexican town. 102 00:05:56,010 --> 00:05:59,890 The United States, in an act of war, took over half of 103 00:05:59,890 --> 00:06:02,010 Mexico's land. 104 00:06:02,010 --> 00:06:03,480 We had Manifest Destiny. 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,790 And when I say these things, then in the blogs I'm accused 106 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:10,840 of and a traitor to my country, that what I'm arguing 107 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,200 for is giving this land back to Mexico. 108 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,080 And it's ridiculous, because as angry as I am at the United 109 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,900 States of American government, I am angry at the 110 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,880 governments of Mexico. 111 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,370 It is not about aligning with our governments. 112 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:29,500 It's about aligning with ourselves, with each other, 113 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:32,400 with the workers, with the most humble amongst us. 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:38,050 Because it is the suffering of the most humble of us where we 115 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:41,420 learn, where we define who we are as 116 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:43,100 individuals and as a nation. 117 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:45,570 And we have to know this history. 118 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:50,170 After the war-- and of course, the border has always been 119 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:52,890 filled with some kind of violence, generally 120 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:55,390 dispossession of lands from the 121 00:06:55,390 --> 00:06:58,180 indigenous and from Mexico. 122 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:59,540 That's the history. 123 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:05,440 But moving forward, we see that we don't have so much 124 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,350 violence at the border, until we began a strategy that I'll 125 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:12,766 focus in on, in '94, to talk about the border. 126 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:16,240 But those of us that have that question posed to us, why are 127 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,290 11 million undocumented people here, we should know the 128 00:07:19,290 --> 00:07:22,310 answer to say, because that's what our policies wanted. 129 00:07:22,310 --> 00:07:25,880 When people say the system is broken, and I hear it a lot 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,330 about the immigration system being broken, I understand 131 00:07:28,330 --> 00:07:29,420 what they're trying to say. 132 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:32,330 But to be even clearer, you have to 133 00:07:32,330 --> 00:07:34,830 understand it is not broken. 134 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:37,250 It has been set up this way. 135 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:40,520 We have 11 million undocumented people because we 136 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,030 have invited 11 million people to come in an 137 00:07:45,030 --> 00:07:46,435 unauthorized fashion. 138 00:07:46,435 --> 00:07:47,720 Two key words-- 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,890 we've invited them without papers. 140 00:07:52,890 --> 00:07:55,170 And obviously we know why that is. 141 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:57,390 And this is a reality. 142 00:07:57,390 --> 00:08:01,300 After we treated the Chinese immigrants so badly-- and we 143 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:03,015 should all know these histories, we 144 00:08:03,015 --> 00:08:04,280 should know our history. 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,000 We have warts and beauty. 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,575 We should not try to hide and airbrush 147 00:08:09,575 --> 00:08:12,160 who we are as a nation. 148 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,350 We have a fight in Tucson, Arizona. 149 00:08:14,350 --> 00:08:17,300 The Mexican American Studies program, which is a great 150 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:20,940 program, to teach young people the history of the Americas, 151 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:25,210 their participation here resulting in graduation rates 152 00:08:25,210 --> 00:08:26,680 they've not seen. 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,510 Going into college has now been declared illegal by these 154 00:08:32,510 --> 00:08:34,559 people here-- 155 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:40,159 Horne, Huppenthal, Pearce, the whole array of them, because 156 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:42,170 they don't want the truth. 157 00:08:42,170 --> 00:08:44,950 And the truth really is what's the most 158 00:08:44,950 --> 00:08:46,590 liberating, as we all know. 159 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:49,390 And in immigration history you must know that we have 160 00:08:49,390 --> 00:08:51,510 terrible episodes in the United States. 161 00:08:51,510 --> 00:08:54,250 Yes, we have the genocide of the indigenous. 162 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:55,450 We have slavery. 163 00:08:55,450 --> 00:09:00,130 And we have immigration history that we must know to 164 00:09:00,130 --> 00:09:03,750 understand who we are and the richness that we are, because 165 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:05,150 we are a nation of immigrants. 166 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:11,250 In the early 1900s we imposed the Chinese Exclusion Act. 167 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:15,660 And we had a head tax. 168 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:18,510 For anybody who wanted to bring in an immigrant there 169 00:09:18,510 --> 00:09:20,320 was a tax to be paid. 170 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,460 Immigrants at that point in time were under the 171 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:27,570 jurisdiction of the Department of Treasury. 172 00:09:27,570 --> 00:09:31,170 Eventually we went under Department of Justice. 173 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:34,100 And in the worst thing that's happened to immigrants, but to 174 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:39,430 all of us here, is that in April of 2003 we were pushed 175 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:45,660 under Department of Homeland Security, with that tent of 176 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:48,750 being a potential threat to Homeland Security. 177 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:54,090 So back in the early 1900s, allegedly the Chinese worker 178 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:55,010 didn't work. 179 00:09:55,010 --> 00:09:59,820 They were laying a track and they were exploited. 180 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:04,990 And they formed a commission, it was industrialist, in DC, 181 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:08,080 Dillingham Commission, to figure out who is going to 182 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,060 help us build this nation. 183 00:10:10,060 --> 00:10:11,340 And it was easy to see. 184 00:10:11,340 --> 00:10:14,440 You turn south, lot of Mexicanos. 185 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,960 And we began in a departmental order of 1916 issued by the 186 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,530 Department of Justice, our government. 187 00:10:22,530 --> 00:10:24,320 This is our government. 188 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,640 People say, oh it's just the corporations that are 189 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,330 benefiting. 190 00:10:27,330 --> 00:10:29,020 Let's put employer sanctions in. 191 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:30,250 Everything will be fine. 192 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:31,060 No. 193 00:10:31,060 --> 00:10:32,660 We have all benefited. 194 00:10:32,660 --> 00:10:35,250 Every one of us continue to benefit. 195 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:39,026 My life is enriched by the people who impoverish their 196 00:10:39,026 --> 00:10:40,900 lives to make my life better. 197 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:42,120 And it's always been that way. 198 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:48,080 And in 1916 they issued a waiver to those economic 199 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,160 forces to not have to pay a head tax if you 200 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,220 brought in a Mexican. 201 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:57,740 And I talk about the waiver because you have to put that 202 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:02,050 into perspective, that beginning at that time we have 203 00:11:02,050 --> 00:11:07,740 now created an invitation, in impetus for Mexicanos to come. 204 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:11,205 Many people in this country don't know that their are 205 00:11:11,205 --> 00:11:14,880 entire towns and pueblos all over Mexico that generation 206 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,710 after generation after generation after generation 207 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:21,870 have sent their young men, towns that you would visit and 208 00:11:21,870 --> 00:11:24,710 only the women and children and the elderly there. 209 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:30,580 This is a long tradition that we started. 210 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:32,020 We even codified it. 211 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,040 We codified it through the signing 212 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,290 of the Bracero Program. 213 00:11:35,290 --> 00:11:41,030 What was that, 1942 to '64. 214 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:45,300 We saw the crossing of almost 4 million migrants, crossings 215 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,240 of over 3 million or so people. 216 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,050 The war was over. 217 00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:55,790 And at the time, mind you, the scholars called those migrants 218 00:11:55,790 --> 00:11:58,290 the agricultural and the railroad 219 00:11:58,290 --> 00:12:01,860 soldiers of the war effort. 220 00:12:01,860 --> 00:12:04,160 And yet when they came back what did they face? 221 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,230 Massive discrimination and suffering. 222 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:09,280 I personally have known braceros that have had go to 223 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,910 Hermosillo to die, who have suffered a lot. 224 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:14,690 We have asked migrants to come. 225 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:18,490 When 11 million undocumented immigrants are here, it's not 226 00:12:18,490 --> 00:12:20,445 because we have a generous immigration policy. 227 00:12:20,445 --> 00:12:22,470 It's not because we give welfare. 228 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:26,550 It's not because the roads are paved with gold and 229 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:28,680 everything's wonderful. 230 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:31,860 We have evidence, and you can look it up in the 231 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:35,560 congressional record and other places, we have records of 232 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:39,850 companies advertising throughout Mexico to come and 233 00:12:39,850 --> 00:12:43,970 work in the United States. 234 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:47,620 People say, what don't you get about illegal? 235 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:53,140 I submit to you that Mexicano immigrants in particular have 236 00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:55,300 answered our call. 237 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:57,620 They have been following our rules, the rules of a 238 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:02,290 capitalist system, with supply and demand and all of it. 239 00:13:02,290 --> 00:13:06,840 We are addicted to cheap labor as we are addicted to drugs. 240 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,840 And then we penalize them, privatize, and 241 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,700 look what we have. 242 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,600 And I'll talk a little bit more about the drugs. 243 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,740 And so I don't want to talk too much about the history, 244 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:21,930 but in the mid '80s we begin to see the 245 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:23,730 economic forces are changing. 246 00:13:23,730 --> 00:13:27,910 Immigration sensibilities are changing, at least on the 247 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:29,190 governmental level. 248 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:33,100 And we begin to see the growth of a different kind of system 249 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:37,960 along the border, a border that is essentially open. 250 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,940 And I don't see that to scare you. 251 00:13:39,940 --> 00:13:44,310 I say that to tell you that's been the reality. 252 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:51,020 That has been our reality with Mexico, Mexico who so many 253 00:13:51,020 --> 00:13:51,840 people hate. 254 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,110 You say Mexico, and you see people cringe. 255 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:58,100 And they think it's violence and drugs and everything, and 256 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:02,070 not really understanding, in my estimation, how fortunate 257 00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:04,590 we are to have Mexico as a neighbor. 258 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:06,310 So we've had good neighbor policies. 259 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:09,400 And in the '80s we begin to see a shift. 260 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,750 Lupe Castillo and I started to talk about this militarization 261 00:14:12,750 --> 00:14:13,510 of the border. 262 00:14:13,510 --> 00:14:16,500 People would roll their eyes at us that we 263 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:17,830 would say such a thing. 264 00:14:17,830 --> 00:14:20,080 And what do we have now? 265 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,760 President Reagan issued a very, very important speech 266 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:31,670 when he was president, and it really began to 267 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:33,470 bring what we now have. 268 00:14:33,470 --> 00:14:36,340 He said, "This country has lost control of its borders, 269 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:40,810 and no country can maintain that position." So I believe 270 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:44,770 it's the beginning of this military political control, 271 00:14:44,770 --> 00:14:48,280 using low-intensity warfare strategies that were 272 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,330 previously utilized in Central America and others, and citing 273 00:14:52,330 --> 00:14:56,380 as their justification immigration, drugs, and then 274 00:14:56,380 --> 00:14:59,420 terrorism, which really ratcheted up things in 275 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:00,780 a huge, huge way. 276 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:04,570 In the mid 1990s we began to see this merging. 277 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:07,890 Now everybody thinks Homeland Security-- nobody thinks twice 278 00:15:07,890 --> 00:15:10,910 whether it's involved in civil or what area. 279 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,530 Is it Department of Defense? 280 00:15:12,530 --> 00:15:13,510 Is it military? 281 00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:14,360 Is it civil? 282 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,090 We began to see this merging with the Department of 283 00:15:18,090 --> 00:15:21,040 Justice, INS, and Department of Defense with 284 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,140 Joint Task Force 6. 285 00:15:23,140 --> 00:15:24,700 That is in El Paso. 286 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:27,650 I don't know if you recall, but in 1997 a young US 287 00:15:27,650 --> 00:15:30,580 citizen, Chicano Esequiel Hernandez, who wanted to be a 288 00:15:30,580 --> 00:15:34,890 Marine, 19 years old, was shot and killed by a Marine unit of 289 00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:36,720 the Joint Task Force 6. 290 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,380 And even Lamar Smith, who is our enemy, had 291 00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:42,870 scathing things to say. 292 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:45,110 And so let's move forward. 293 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:50,110 And we know what happened after 9/11, that immediately 294 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:51,200 we had a Patriot Act. 295 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,690 We immediately saw in Tucson that they were going to up the 296 00:15:54,690 --> 00:15:59,860 money for the Criminal Alien Program, trying to focus on 297 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:02,070 people who had already been deported. 298 00:16:02,070 --> 00:16:04,360 And it was hard to get any traction with people. 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,180 And now we can see the reality. 300 00:16:07,180 --> 00:16:10,550 In April of 2003, like I said, the Department of Homeland 301 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:14,510 Security collapsed like 22 federal agencies, including 302 00:16:14,510 --> 00:16:17,320 INS and the Border Patrol. 303 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,010 And it's really had the worst impact for all of us. 304 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:25,780 The Border Patrol strategy measures rely exclusively on 305 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:29,770 police, military-type force, incarceration, deportation, 306 00:16:29,770 --> 00:16:32,870 criminalization, discrimination, actual 307 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:37,020 militarization of the border as the solutions to the 308 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:42,710 complex issues of migration, trade, human rights, civil 309 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:47,800 rights, and ignore the really destructive impacts to society 310 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,610 that we know. 311 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:52,980 Is migration really a law enforcement issue? 312 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:58,220 Is migration a Homeland Security issue? 313 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:03,410 Why do we have record migration around the world, 314 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:05,410 not just in the United States? 315 00:17:05,410 --> 00:17:08,839 Most Americans think that all immigrants come 316 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:10,030 to the United States. 317 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:15,040 We only see a percentage of all migrants in transition. 318 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,150 It is worldwide, especially with the changing of basic 319 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:23,560 economic structures, as we've seen through free trade 320 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,630 policies and on. 321 00:17:25,630 --> 00:17:29,950 When my father was a union organizer, capital had to have 322 00:17:29,950 --> 00:17:31,200 some respect for labor. 323 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,010 It was a concession. 324 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:35,890 They organized, and now what do we have? 325 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:39,610 All of these shops have gone abroad. 326 00:17:39,610 --> 00:17:40,710 And we don't want that. 327 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:43,720 And people are telling us that we've got to get 328 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,630 them to come back. 329 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:48,740 The reality that they don't tell you is we have to agree 330 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:52,180 to $4-an-hour jobs if we want them to come 331 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:53,450 back, or maybe $2. 332 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:55,174 That's what they want to come back. 333 00:17:55,174 --> 00:18:00,480 So we began, then, to see the impact. 334 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:08,240 In 1994, we begin on the border policies called 335 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,822 Prevention Through Deterrence. 336 00:18:09,822 --> 00:18:11,270 I don't know if you've heard them. 337 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:16,160 Eventually became Operation Blockade in El Paso, and that 338 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,290 was too rough of a word. 339 00:18:17,290 --> 00:18:21,330 So it was changed to Operation Hold the Line, started by 340 00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:24,970 Sylvester Reyes, who was a Border Patrol sector chief, 341 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:28,770 and Johnny Williams who was in California. 342 00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:33,250 They began this policy that has resulted in the death of 343 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:34,670 almost 10,000 people. 344 00:18:34,670 --> 00:18:38,170 We don't know how many, but over a 6,000 deaths have been 345 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:41,700 documented along the border because of these policies. 346 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,210 We have Operation Gatekeeper, Operation Rio Grande, 347 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:46,980 Operation Hold the Line. 348 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:51,370 And in Arizona, where we see the majority of all the deaths 349 00:18:51,370 --> 00:18:55,660 across the country every year, more people die than the 350 00:18:55,660 --> 00:19:00,780 entire Berlin Wall experience in one year. 351 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:02,830 And no one knows about it. 352 00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:06,290 And in Arizona we have Operation Safeguard. 353 00:19:06,290 --> 00:19:08,210 Safeguard what? 354 00:19:08,210 --> 00:19:12,910 We know at the time that we were going to see 355 00:19:12,910 --> 00:19:14,420 an influx of migrants. 356 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:20,210 Just as Senator McCain was debating me on national TV, he 357 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:24,310 was saying that NAFTA was going to solve all our 358 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:26,570 immigration problems. 359 00:19:26,570 --> 00:19:27,850 That's what they said. 360 00:19:27,850 --> 00:19:29,640 Jim Colby said that. 361 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,450 Where is our collective memory not to counter them and say, I 362 00:19:34,450 --> 00:19:37,990 thought you said that NAFTA would solve 363 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:38,930 our immigration problems? 364 00:19:38,930 --> 00:19:40,160 You know what has happened. 365 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,690 According to the United Nation, 6 million people in 366 00:19:43,690 --> 00:19:49,680 Mexico, workers, working related to agriculture, have 367 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:55,960 left since NAFTA, crossing unlawfully into the United 368 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,140 States, or with another kind of visa and violating the 369 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:01,270 agreements there. 370 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:06,300 Mexico fed its people badly, but corn and beans-- everybody 371 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:08,290 could have corn tortillas and beans. 372 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:12,060 And Mexico exported a multitude of 373 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:14,040 agricultural products. 374 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,140 Where is Mexico today? 375 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:18,940 Importing these products. 376 00:20:18,940 --> 00:20:21,780 Importing corn, for god's sake. 377 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:22,530 Corn. 378 00:20:22,530 --> 00:20:25,240 We are the people of the maize. 379 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:31,130 But their technocrats and their elite do not care about 380 00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:34,800 el maize and the corn, not just as a commodity and how 381 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,910 they have survived. 382 00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:39,890 But it is a sacred part of our culture. 383 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:40,840 And they don't know it. 384 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,450 I had an exchange with their secretary of state when I was 385 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:48,820 in President Fox's committee of 100 people to tell Mexico 386 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:50,400 what the situation was. 387 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,850 And when I told him about Mexico doing this shameful 388 00:20:55,850 --> 00:21:02,650 thing of allowing Monsanto corn that's destroying native 389 00:21:02,650 --> 00:21:08,400 seeds and all in letting the US sell it for a cheaper price 390 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,570 and undercutting-- 391 00:21:09,570 --> 00:21:13,250 and as part of NAFTA they had to change their constitution 392 00:21:13,250 --> 00:21:15,590 to do away with the ejido system, which is why the 393 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:20,650 Zapatistas rose up in rebellion, if you will recall. 394 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:24,330 He said to me before I could even get the words out of my 395 00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:27,930 mouth, he said, I think it's good that Mexico can buy 396 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:31,130 cheaper corn from the United States. 397 00:21:31,130 --> 00:21:35,860 I was more Mexican being six generations in Arizona, US 398 00:21:35,860 --> 00:21:38,110 citizen and proud. 399 00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:42,710 I was more Mexican the Secretary of State for Mexico. 400 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:46,070 And then his next breath, because I said, I see a lot of 401 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:48,620 people in [INAUDIBLE] and all their job-- 402 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:49,610 it's done away with. 403 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:50,680 They've had to escape. 404 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,460 He said, do you think those people are too stupid to do 405 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:55,590 anything than farm work? 406 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:58,470 So that tells you the mentality of 407 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:59,610 those in the elite. 408 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:00,960 And then he talked about where his 409 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,200 daughters would go to college. 410 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,480 One wants to go to Paris. 411 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,200 One wants to go to San Francisco or New York-- 412 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,680 in the same conversation where we're talking about migrants 413 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,680 risking their lives as we speak this very minute. 414 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,060 So in the mid 1990s we began NAFTA, and we 415 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:23,580 began building walls. 416 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:26,220 Why would we build walls if we really thought the migration 417 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,130 problem would be solved, right? 418 00:22:28,130 --> 00:22:29,750 They knew that wasn't the situation. 419 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:31,900 They knew that more migrants would become. 420 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,470 And the government has become more of gatekeepers for 421 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:35,220 corporations. 422 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:37,530 Let's face it, that's what's going on along the 423 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:38,910 border in many ways. 424 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,630 But we didn't want to stop all migration, because you know 425 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:43,550 what, we need migration. 426 00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:46,220 We're not reproducing at the same rate. 427 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:48,460 There's all these things that have been-- 428 00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:49,840 we need migrants. 429 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,230 That's been the other secret. 430 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:55,730 Not only is the border open, but don't tell anybody, but we 431 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:57,180 need migrants. 432 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:01,810 And so we began to close off the traditional crossing areas 433 00:23:01,810 --> 00:23:02,920 for all migrants. 434 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,960 And we funneled them through the Arizona border. 435 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,130 52% of all migrants then in the peak 436 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:14,320 coming through Arizona. 437 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,090 And now I say at the peak because the 438 00:23:18,090 --> 00:23:21,000 migration has plummeted. 439 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,010 Plummeted. 440 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:27,500 And yet you're hearing for more calls for more agents, 441 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:29,560 for more security, and all of that. 442 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,910 And I'll talk a little bit about that. 443 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:34,710 So we closed up all the areas and left Arizona open. 444 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:35,780 Why Arizona? 445 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:36,820 I'll tell you this quickly. 446 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:37,880 This is my belief. 447 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Arizona's always been very conservative. 448 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,830 At the time, for 10 years, 11 years it was the 449 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,570 fastest-growing state. 450 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:47,690 It's not the migrants that were coming from the south. 451 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:51,020 It's the migrants that were coming from Minnesota, 452 00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:55,720 California, New York retiring generally equating to more 453 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,350 conservative. 454 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:59,140 Number one, conservative state. 455 00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:02,600 Number two, and very critical, and you will see now as we 456 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,890 speak how important, the border of Arizona could 457 00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:14,280 sustain 15 years of funneling people as they wanted. 458 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,790 I believe it's all intentional. 459 00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:16,590 They could funnel. 460 00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:17,230 Why? 461 00:24:17,230 --> 00:24:22,350 Because the border is owned by the federal government, state 462 00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:27,160 government, the Tohono O'odom Nation, who we buy, we 463 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,630 manipulate, we work with sometimes. 464 00:24:31,630 --> 00:24:34,390 We treat them as a welfare state sometimes. 465 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:38,310 The Tohono O'odom Nation and handful, just a handful 466 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:41,110 really, of private property owners. 467 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:41,960 Why is that critical? 468 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Look at what happened to Texas, people said 469 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,660 to me at the time. 470 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:46,350 No, Texas is really conservative. 471 00:24:46,350 --> 00:24:47,620 It's a big state. 472 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:48,960 They could do it through there. 473 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,490 Look what happened to Chertoff when he was DHS secretary. 474 00:24:54,490 --> 00:24:57,470 He started building a wall and the entire 475 00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:59,130 community came after him. 476 00:24:59,130 --> 00:25:00,630 They weren't ready yet. 477 00:25:00,630 --> 00:25:02,520 They weren't poisoned like we were. 478 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,990 They started a campaign against Chertoff, black, 479 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:07,290 brown, white. 480 00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:12,430 Law enforcement, officials of every kind, Indian nations, 481 00:25:12,430 --> 00:25:14,650 universities did a fight back. 482 00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:16,110 What happens in Arizona? 483 00:25:16,110 --> 00:25:18,350 It's owned by the federal government. 484 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,030 Why? 485 00:25:19,030 --> 00:25:21,700 Because we are the home to some incredible 486 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,010 environmental treasures. 487 00:25:23,010 --> 00:25:25,570 As hot as it seems outside and that it's 488 00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:27,620 desolate, it is beautiful. 489 00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:31,650 Our border is absolutely beautiful, home to wildlife 490 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:35,470 areas, Organ Pipe National Monument, San Pedro Rio 491 00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:39,570 riparian area, Buenos Aires wilderness 492 00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:41,890 area, the entire border. 493 00:25:41,890 --> 00:25:44,480 Did you see what was introduced and passed in the 494 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,570 House yesterday? 495 00:25:46,570 --> 00:25:51,390 Bishop's bill from Utah that Border Patrol can have full 496 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:55,420 operational access and control for the first 100 497 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:56,670 miles of the border. 498 00:25:56,670 --> 00:26:00,300 That includes Tucson, includes part of Pinal County, and the 499 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:01,610 Canadian border south. 500 00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:05,940 100 miles full in operational control because the claim by 501 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:11,630 the politicians, generally Republican, in DC are that the 502 00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:14,660 land managers care too much about the land and not about 503 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,590 our security. 504 00:26:16,590 --> 00:26:18,990 Where is our security? 505 00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:21,830 So we funneled people. 506 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:26,450 And we had the media as complicit partners, every day 507 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:31,140 announcing the sayings of the vigilantes and all the 508 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:32,030 anti-immigrants. 509 00:26:32,030 --> 00:26:34,430 Remember, we're the home to a whole bunch 510 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:35,360 of vigilante groups. 511 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,290 I can't even remember all the names. 512 00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:39,585 But you will recall-- or you should recall-- that in April 513 00:26:39,585 --> 00:26:45,040 of 2005, the Minutemen formed here at the border, about 100 514 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080 middle-aged men that came to the border. 515 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,310 And we were there. 516 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:52,620 And I saw hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of media 517 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:53,940 representatives. 518 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:57,070 And we knew that would be bad news, because they would take 519 00:26:57,070 --> 00:26:58,220 that message. 520 00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:01,990 And soon after that, anti-immigrant packs formed 521 00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:05,850 all over your communities in this country, which then was 522 00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:09,960 laying the fertilization and foundation for what was then 523 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,270 coming in Arizona. 524 00:27:11,270 --> 00:27:16,850 Once we poisoned the narrative against immigrants here in 525 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:21,180 Arizona, we as voters passed four anti-immigrant measures. 526 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:25,570 Actually, the first one in 2004, Prop 200, that attempted 527 00:27:25,570 --> 00:27:29,400 to strip immigrants of certain rights that they already 528 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,770 didn't have under the law. 529 00:27:30,770 --> 00:27:35,310 And then in November of 2006, the voters of Arizona voted 530 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:39,300 for four anti-immigrant measures, two of them amending 531 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:43,220 our Constitution, including the right to bail. 532 00:27:43,220 --> 00:27:46,400 The notion of you're innocent until you're proven guilty is 533 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,450 so critical in our system, more than anything else. 534 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:52,262 And now I see it with the growth of the police state is 535 00:27:52,262 --> 00:27:54,990 that being free from police detention 536 00:27:54,990 --> 00:27:56,860 is absolutely critical. 537 00:27:56,860 --> 00:28:00,360 So bail is denied in this state if you're an 538 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:04,950 undocumented immigrant and are simply accused of a felony-- 539 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,780 simply accused of a felony. 540 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:12,380 We also amended the Constitution that if I have a 541 00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:15,990 roof that caves in on me and I'm undocumented, I can only 542 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:20,240 gain compensatory damages, no punitive damages-- 543 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,410 even though my lawyer can prove that this company knew 544 00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:25,230 this was all defective, they had hurt other 545 00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:26,680 people in other states. 546 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,870 You're an undocumented immigrant, you cannot get 547 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:30,760 punitive damages. 548 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,650 And of course that was a big sell here. 549 00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:35,300 First of all it's, how dare you come into our country 550 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,580 unlawfully and then think that we're going to pay you 551 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:38,670 punitive damages. 552 00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:41,060 Or how dare you think you're accused of a crime. 553 00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:42,700 You should be held without bond-- 554 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:48,210 not understanding that we've allowed a foot in the door, 555 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:51,070 first of all for corporations who want to do away with 556 00:28:51,070 --> 00:28:52,110 punitive damages. 557 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:56,170 Many of you know that punitive damages is why some of our 558 00:28:56,170 --> 00:28:58,180 products are very safe. 559 00:28:58,180 --> 00:28:59,840 Because companies are afraid. 560 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,090 And they've been fighting punitive damages. 561 00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:06,090 And at the time, who's falling off roofs and getting hurt? 562 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:07,420 Many Mexican immigrants. 563 00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:09,090 Do you think they sue? 564 00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:11,100 No they don't. 565 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,100 So we were poisoned. 566 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:18,860 And then eventually we elected all the anti-immigrants, the 567 00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:20,830 Minutemen in suits. 568 00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:24,640 And we elected them, began to churn out anti-immigrant 569 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,020 measures one at a time. 570 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:28,860 You wouldn't believe some of the sessions that we passed in 571 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:29,850 the past few years. 572 00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:34,750 2006, 2007, 2008, 49 measures being introduced, all 573 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:35,940 anti-immigrant-- 574 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:39,640 nasty anti-immigrant measures that it's unbelievable, some 575 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,020 of the things that they want to do, many of them being 576 00:29:42,020 --> 00:29:44,750 discussed in hearings, some passing on committees, some 577 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:46,290 not passing the full House. 578 00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:49,830 But you already know that we have passed some of the most 579 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:51,230 anti-immigrant legislation. 580 00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:54,950 Did you know that an undocumented worker, many of 581 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:59,050 them utilize a fictitious Social Security number? 582 00:29:59,050 --> 00:30:01,410 Do you think they use it to set up a credit 583 00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:04,400 card and steal money? 584 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,820 No. 585 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:08,120 In fact, a case that I did and we did in 2008, the Panda 586 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,030 Express case in 2000, they charged them with aggravated 587 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:12,670 identity theft. 588 00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:16,590 So I step beyond myself. 589 00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:22,620 So we, in 2007, enacted legislation to make it a Class 590 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:24,210 IV felony-- 591 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:25,630 serious felony-- 592 00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:29,190 if you use fictitious information or false 593 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:31,290 information of a personal nature. 594 00:30:31,290 --> 00:30:33,770 And they even included in parentheses, even of a 595 00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:35,236 fictitious person. 596 00:30:35,236 --> 00:30:43,040 Even if it's a Joe weird last name that doesn't exist. 597 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,430 The Social Security number doesn't match to anybody. 598 00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:50,080 Even that is covered under this criminal statute. 599 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,010 And instead of creating a brand new statute to 600 00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:56,640 criminalize immigrants who work under a fictitious Social 601 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,310 Security, they were genius. 602 00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:59,210 What did they do? 603 00:30:59,210 --> 00:31:03,850 They added it to the existing statute for aggravated 604 00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:05,500 identity theft. 605 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,020 In other words, you're charged. 606 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:10,230 And that way the perception is that people 607 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:11,320 are stealing money. 608 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,250 In this case that we handled, the auditor of the Social 609 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:19,280 Security suspense fund at that time said, it 610 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,110 is over $200 billion. 611 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:24,350 And the vast majority of that money, where did that come 612 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:25,480 from, we asked him. 613 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600 He said, undocumented immigrants who have been 614 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,290 paying to the system. 615 00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:31,480 So now we charge them with a Class IV felony. 616 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,340 We also enacted, even though we have a federal 617 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:35,890 anti-smuggling statute-- 618 00:31:35,890 --> 00:31:39,160 and believe me, they prosecute-- 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,770 we enacted a state smuggling statute. 620 00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:43,890 Well, we hate smugglers, right? 621 00:31:43,890 --> 00:31:45,000 Or so we think we do. 622 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,420 Really, was there any difference between the 623 00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:52,410 contratistas in [INAUDIBLE], labor contractors as there are 624 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:55,430 to the smugglers of today? 625 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:58,210 It's what people do when people need to come in. 626 00:31:58,210 --> 00:32:02,460 So the smugglers that we all love to hate, we thought, OK, 627 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:05,640 well there's a statute now to penalize them. 628 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,530 Well guess who's being charged under the statute here in 629 00:32:08,530 --> 00:32:10,450 Phoenix, Arizona by the hundreds? 630 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:14,420 Hundreds have been prosecuted and sentenced and will now 631 00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:17,710 have a criminal record and can never come back to the United 632 00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:20,410 States, regardless of any of these other policies 633 00:32:20,410 --> 00:32:21,770 that are going on. 634 00:32:21,770 --> 00:32:25,110 Because now they're being found guilty of being a 635 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:28,500 co-conspirator to their own smuggling. 636 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,290 And the Ninth Circuit has upheld that notion, that you 637 00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:34,880 can be found guilty-- and the short title to it, if you look 638 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,890 at an NCIC list, it says, "smuggling." So you'll always 639 00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:42,670 be tagged as a smuggler, even though you are part of a load 640 00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:44,880 of 50 people that had been brought to a 641 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,830 safehouse here in Phoenix. 642 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:52,010 And they can't ever catch a real smuggler, just like we 643 00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:55,330 can never catch a true drug dealer. 644 00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:56,950 I'm a criminal defense attorney. 645 00:32:56,950 --> 00:33:01,150 I think I've seen in my lifetime just generally likes 646 00:33:01,150 --> 00:33:06,330 three real drug dealers prosecuted and convicted. 647 00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:09,660 Yet there's thousands and thousands and thousands and 648 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,300 thousands and thousands incarcerated. 649 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,060 In my office alone, every morning in morning court we 650 00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:20,170 have a dozen guys, easily, sent off to prison for having 651 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:24,800 50 pounds of pot, for bringing in $10 of pot. 652 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,960 Whatever it is, they're going to prison. 653 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,340 Yet did you know that last year Wachovia Bank entered 654 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:34,700 into a really cozy deal, a diversion agreement with the 655 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:39,680 US government to pay $111 million fine-- 656 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,530 which is a little, tiny fraction of their 657 00:33:41,530 --> 00:33:43,047 profits in one year-- 658 00:33:43,047 --> 00:33:44,480 for what? 659 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,080 For-- 660 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,250 this should blow you off your seat-- 661 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:57,770 for laundering $378.5 billion for the drug cartels. 662 00:33:57,770 --> 00:34:01,016 Are we really against drugs? 663 00:34:01,016 --> 00:34:03,260 Are we really against drugs? 664 00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:05,870 They didn't even name them in the diversion agreement. 665 00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:09,969 And it's in file in the Southern District in Florida. 666 00:34:09,969 --> 00:34:13,000 Wachovia Bank tries to hide it, and so then they were 667 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,090 bought out by Wells Fargo. 668 00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:19,489 And now isn't it interesting that Wells Fargo has a major 669 00:34:19,489 --> 00:34:25,019 investment in the private detention centers. 670 00:34:25,019 --> 00:34:25,949 GEO Group-- 671 00:34:25,949 --> 00:34:26,650 did you know that? 672 00:34:26,650 --> 00:34:31,080 There's a wide movement for divestment urging Wells Fargo 673 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,010 to divest from the GEO Group, from CCA. 674 00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:38,310 Corrections Corporation of America is doing our 675 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:42,280 deportations at a huge profit. 676 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,850 In Tucson, Arizona we have not only the criminalization of 677 00:34:46,850 --> 00:34:49,060 the state that I just described to you, and 678 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:52,190 eventually we went to 1070, and I'll talk about that, but 679 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:55,760 what people ignore is that we have a federal site. 680 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,540 And it makes it complicated. 681 00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:03,230 Obama and his administration and many of our police chiefs 682 00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:06,910 and others were against 1070. 683 00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:14,200 However, they're happy with the mass not only deportation, 684 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,760 mass criminalization of immigrants before they are put 685 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,920 in the deportation process. 686 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,080 People are making billions of dollars with the 687 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,680 militarization of our border. 688 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,720 And where is our security? 689 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,680 Again, if you go to Tucson, Arizona-- 690 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,860 I invite you to go-- 691 00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:37,230 go to the US District Court. 692 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:40,420 And you look up at this monstrous building that cost 693 00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:45,730 over $25 million a month to operate. 694 00:35:45,730 --> 00:35:47,660 And you go in there. 695 00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:49,850 And because they've grown so much, I guess it's even more. 696 00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:54,430 But now 86% all of the business in the US District 697 00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:56,630 Court in Tucson is about what? 698 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:58,380 You wouldn't guess it. 699 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:03,156 Criminal cases against immigrants for what? 700 00:36:03,156 --> 00:36:04,810 This is mind-boggling. 701 00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:09,000 Illegal entry and entry after you've been deported, 702 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,200 which is the worst. 703 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,430 That's to two to 20 years. 704 00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:13,380 Every day. 705 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:16,070 Some of the lawyers in the convention we're telling me, 706 00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:17,610 yes I'm still doing federal court. 707 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:22,080 And they get really mad at me that they have to do 48 708 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,290 months, just for being found. 709 00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:28,350 They were found in Las Vegas in a restaurant, were US 710 00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:31,480 citizen children, wife and whatever, and I heard him 711 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,150 pleading to the judge, this is-- 712 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:36,740 you can't come back here, 48 months. 713 00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:41,360 We pay CCA, Corrections Corporation of America, which 714 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,470 is part of our Border Security measures-- remember this; this 715 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:48,050 is what it looks like-- 716 00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:53,760 we pay CCA a check of $17 million-plus, because it's 717 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,170 growing every month. 718 00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:59,350 17 million times 12. 719 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:01,020 Per month. 720 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:05,780 Per month we pay them $17 million to incarcerate just 721 00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:09,240 those folks, incarce criminalized in our US 722 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,930 District Court for the grand crimes of illegal entry and 723 00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:15,920 illegal reentry, short term for that. 724 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,430 Does that make you feel more secure, too? 725 00:37:18,430 --> 00:37:20,620 17 million to CCA. 726 00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:21,760 Is that a good use? 727 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,850 In Tucson, Arizona they are closing out post office that 728 00:37:25,850 --> 00:37:31,140 cost $14 million a year to run, employs hundreds of 729 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:36,980 people, provides vital service to us, and is a lifeblood of 730 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:41,940 the small businesses that use the postal services for a 731 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:45,170 cheap flyer kind of system. 732 00:37:45,170 --> 00:37:51,030 $14 million a year, and we're closing it down. 733 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:53,490 Our mail is going to all have to come to Phoenix. 734 00:37:53,490 --> 00:37:57,930 Yet we can pay $17 million a month just to a private 735 00:37:57,930 --> 00:38:02,690 corporation, not to mention the $25 million it cost us to 736 00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:06,730 run the court and the millions that they've yet to answer us 737 00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:11,080 about the defense cost and the prosecution cost. 738 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,880 If you went to Tucson, Arizona and went to see how we treat 739 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,340 the misdemeanors-- 740 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:20,900 in other words, people that were only 741 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,791 going to get 180 days-- 742 00:38:23,791 --> 00:38:27,890 but just to see how we're beginning to normalize-- 743 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:32,300 remember, immigrants are used to normalize violations for 744 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,820 every one of us. 745 00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:37,920 The labor unions are attacked because we allowed the attacks 746 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,760 on immigrants. 747 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,050 Attacks on everybody, a result because we permit the attacks 748 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:47,700 on the LBGT community. 749 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,310 So it goes on and on. 750 00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:54,090 And so here at this federal court when you're treated as a 751 00:38:54,090 --> 00:39:00,320 misdemeanor, now we've normalized this mass, gross 752 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,350 simplification and streamline it. 753 00:39:02,350 --> 00:39:04,450 They call it Operation Streamline. 754 00:39:04,450 --> 00:39:06,680 They don't like it, but it's stuck now, Operation 755 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,250 Streamline. 756 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:10,270 A criminal process has a process. 757 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:11,930 You have an initial appearance. 758 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:15,430 You have certain rights there to bail, to lawyers, and it 759 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:18,160 has a process. 760 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,650 All of that is done away with. 761 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:22,880 And when you're in Operation Streamline and you're one of 762 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,070 the lucky ones that's just being charged with illegal 763 00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:29,050 entry, you get 70 people crammed with chains. 764 00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:32,950 Imagine heavy chains on your ankles to your waist and to 765 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:33,820 your wrist. 766 00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:38,540 Every single day in Tucson in the court, 70 people chained, 767 00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:41,350 and en masse. 768 00:39:41,350 --> 00:39:46,610 In one hour they come out a criminal for the grand crime 769 00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:47,420 of illegal entry. 770 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:50,160 And in fact, the judge says, you came in here without a 771 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,700 criminal record, you now have a criminal record. 772 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:55,330 And you're now going to be deported. 773 00:39:55,330 --> 00:39:58,490 We've already streamlined the deportation arsenal. 774 00:39:58,490 --> 00:40:02,030 And it's not people come to me and say, oh my god, Obama's 775 00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:05,260 very anti-immigrant, because he's deported more immigrants 776 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:06,660 than anybody else. 777 00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:07,300 No. 778 00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:08,970 He's not more anti-immigrant. 779 00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:11,980 It's that every single administration that I can 780 00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:17,990 think of, Democrat or Republican, has continued to 781 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:23,660 finance and resource this monster we have created, the 782 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,130 Border Patrol. 783 00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:28,390 And now they've got customs and border inspection. 784 00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:29,610 We have ICE. 785 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:31,880 We've created this monster. 786 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,410 Do you feel, really, more secure? 787 00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:35,560 Security. 788 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,760 That's what we're talking about when we 789 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,680 talk about the border. 790 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,910 Everybody talks, we have to secure the border first. 791 00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:42,320 We need to have border security. 792 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,270 What does that mean? 793 00:40:44,270 --> 00:40:47,880 We can tell you what it means and what it looks like. 794 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,370 And this is what it looks like. 795 00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:53,300 We have a federal administration that was 796 00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:54,710 against 1070. 797 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:57,570 And right before signing it-- she signed it on April the 798 00:40:57,570 --> 00:41:02,040 23rd of 2010-- 799 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,630 Obama's administration, Janet Napolitano who was a governor 800 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:08,680 here, militarized part of that border, too. 801 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080 But what did they do? 802 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,140 They sent 800 federal agents to the state of Arizona on 803 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,720 April the 15th of 2010. 804 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,150 My mother's neighborhood was surrounded. 805 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:23,390 There was helicopters. 806 00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:25,300 There were guys covered up. 807 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,350 They did an incredible exercise. 808 00:41:27,350 --> 00:41:32,190 They tried to then later say, we came to do a crackdown on 809 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:36,000 the shuttle buses who are really located 810 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,340 right close to my mother. 811 00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:40,100 On 12th Avenue there's a lot of shuttle companies. 812 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,950 They take people from Nogales to Tucson 813 00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:46,000 to Phoenix to Flagstaff. 814 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,635 And they focused in on these little mom and pop, what, that 815 00:41:49,635 --> 00:41:51,350 are supposed to ask for documents? 816 00:41:51,350 --> 00:41:52,430 But nothing ever came. 817 00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:53,940 The media let it go. 818 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,810 Yet 800 agents came into our communities and assaulted us. 819 00:41:57,810 --> 00:42:02,020 Together, in my opinion, I think they did it as an 820 00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,410 exercise, a live exercise. 821 00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:09,780 Because they brought together every single agency you can 822 00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:16,790 imagine, every police agency, DEA, ATF, Customs, Santa Cruz 823 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:20,260 County police, Nogales city police, 824 00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:22,670 Tucson, all way through-- 825 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:26,790 The Pima Community College campus police, 826 00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:29,280 U of A campus police. 827 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,970 And they did a massive exercise, with 800 agents, 828 00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:39,660 allegedly for 40 people that they wound up arresting. 829 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:41,850 And have we really heard anything what happened to 830 00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:42,720 their cases? 831 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:43,750 Absolutely not. 832 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:46,220 This was the federal government. 833 00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:48,160 It's very difficult. 834 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,010 Because we have Obama being against 1070. 835 00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:53,710 However, the federal government creating this 836 00:42:53,710 --> 00:42:57,070 incredible apparatus that is really taking 837 00:42:57,070 --> 00:42:59,650 away from real security. 838 00:42:59,650 --> 00:43:02,350 Because you and I know what real security is. 839 00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:04,370 It's having a house. 840 00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:08,990 It's having a job and food, health care, infrastructure, 841 00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:12,560 good streets, good education. 842 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,110 Do we have that? 843 00:43:15,110 --> 00:43:15,600 No. 844 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,330 Many of us do not. 845 00:43:17,330 --> 00:43:22,140 Teachers are being fired as we speak, and yet my cousin's 846 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:24,510 son, who's a Border Patrol agent-- and now they don't 847 00:43:24,510 --> 00:43:27,510 tell me much-- but three years ago was 848 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:30,600 earning $83,000 a year. 849 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,920 And we start our teachers here at $30,000? 850 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,420 And we demand everything from our 851 00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:38,300 teachers, and it's $30,000. 852 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:40,510 And now even they are being fired. 853 00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:42,910 Do we really love our children? 854 00:43:42,910 --> 00:43:47,490 And yet we can spend this kind of money for things that bring 855 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:49,932 total insecurity. 856 00:43:49,932 --> 00:43:53,020 They bring death. 857 00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:55,610 Derechos Humanos in Tucson, we're involved in this 858 00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:58,430 horrific work that we never imagined ourselves to be 859 00:43:58,430 --> 00:43:59,930 involved in-- 860 00:43:59,930 --> 00:44:04,240 identifying the dead, identifying the missing. 861 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:05,220 We get photos. 862 00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:06,290 We get dental records. 863 00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:08,910 We have to work with the Office of Medical Examiners. 864 00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:11,800 We have to talk to women to say, yes, it is your husband. 865 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,310 He died. 866 00:44:12,310 --> 00:44:13,230 Or, no it's not. 867 00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:14,830 You think it is, but it's not. 868 00:44:14,830 --> 00:44:19,330 This horrific work, does this sound like security to you? 869 00:44:19,330 --> 00:44:24,260 People did not die before we began the militarization of 870 00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:27,000 this border. 871 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,930 And yet they tout it in order to save deaths sometimes. 872 00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:35,330 When I was arguing and fighting with Mexico, I saw 873 00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:37,370 where they entered into agreements with the United 874 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:42,560 States to build more walls to prevent death, when it's the 875 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,010 growth of the military kind of structure along the border 876 00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:47,050 that is causing death. 877 00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:50,980 And now not only that, it has become internalized. 878 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,230 We are seeing it on the streets. 879 00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:59,630 We knew that we would come to a point where local law 880 00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:04,450 enforcement would be in total collaboration with the federal 881 00:45:04,450 --> 00:45:05,170 government. 882 00:45:05,170 --> 00:45:11,060 And that's what this court appears-- 883 00:45:11,060 --> 00:45:13,730 it appears will be their decision. 884 00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:16,980 I believe that they will strike down the portion that 885 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,150 makes it a crime. 886 00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:21,360 And really, practically speaking, think about it. 887 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,120 Of course they're going to do that. 888 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,000 If we permitted 1070 as it is, we would have absolutely no 889 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,750 money for anything else. 890 00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:34,020 Because there's a mandatory provision that says, the 891 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:36,420 police officer must ask you. 892 00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:39,120 And if you don't have your documents, if you're 893 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,130 undocumented, you will be charged with a criminal 894 00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:44,680 offense of being a person without documents. 895 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640 That's why police chiefs were against it. 896 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,056 Our police chief was against it. 897 00:45:50,056 --> 00:45:52,580 But he likes secure communities. 898 00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:54,450 And he likes 287(g). 899 00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:55,070 That's what I'm saying. 900 00:45:55,070 --> 00:45:56,330 It's very complicated. 901 00:45:56,330 --> 00:46:02,140 Our sheriff was against 1070, but then on national TV said, 902 00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:06,930 we should not make police officers do that. 903 00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:09,790 What we should do is check children's 904 00:46:09,790 --> 00:46:12,120 status at the schools. 905 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,655 So it's complicated. 906 00:46:13,655 --> 00:46:15,260 Who are our friends? 907 00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:18,240 And what about ourselves? 908 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,040 Wonderful, good people that I know asked me 909 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,580 after 1611 was defeated-- 910 00:46:25,580 --> 00:46:28,900 1611 was the one that was going to do everything else 911 00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,640 bad that needed to be done to immigrants that we hadn't done 912 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,720 before in Arizona, plus the bill that said, you're not a 913 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,370 US citizen, we're not going to give you a birth certificate. 914 00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:42,700 It was about to be signed. 915 00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:43,800 And why wasn't it signed? 916 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,240 Because the night before it was going to be signed, 60 917 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:52,030 CEOs sent an emergency letter to all the Republicans and 918 00:46:52,030 --> 00:46:54,560 said, stop. 919 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,440 The boycott has hurt our economy. 920 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,430 Your antics and the boycott has hurt this state. 921 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:07,300 That's what stopped-- make no mistake about it. 922 00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,740 I know there's a lot of problems with boycotts and the 923 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:11,690 debate about it. 924 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:14,910 But that's what stopped us from becoming even more 925 00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:17,090 anti-immigrant. 926 00:47:17,090 --> 00:47:20,410 One of the only tools that our people have, that people have, 927 00:47:20,410 --> 00:47:22,700 all people, and that is to boycott-- 928 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:27,110 not to spend your money somewhere, to make them hurt, 929 00:47:27,110 --> 00:47:30,400 that's what stopped it. 930 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,450 And so now we are in this 1070 limbo. 931 00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:37,440 And it looks like they're going to allow the portion 932 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,030 that says a police officer can ask you for 933 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:44,270 your documents if-- 934 00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:46,570 this is this great quote that we've lived 935 00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:47,870 under for a long time. 936 00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:49,030 We didn't need 1070. 937 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:50,840 This is the law in Tucson. 938 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,750 TPD policy is that in the course of stopping you for a 939 00:47:55,750 --> 00:48:00,600 broken windshield or whatever it is, you have a reasonable 940 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,190 suspicion that the person's in violation of federal 941 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:06,560 immigration laws. 942 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,990 You know how complicated the federal immigration laws are? 943 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:14,090 My professor in tax said the next most complicated set of 944 00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:17,800 laws are in the immigration arena, because it's so 945 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,140 codified in codes versus just statute. 946 00:48:21,140 --> 00:48:23,220 And yet the police all believe-- 947 00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:24,600 and they've told me to my face. 948 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,690 The assistant police chief told me in Tucson, you're 949 00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:31,340 either legal or you're not. 950 00:48:31,340 --> 00:48:35,290 You have somebody saying, what's reasonable suspicion? 951 00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:41,220 Well, he answered, she didn't have a US driver's license. 952 00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:43,110 And she spoke Spanish. 953 00:48:43,110 --> 00:48:44,690 That's reasonable suspicion? 954 00:48:44,690 --> 00:48:46,980 And that's coming from them. 955 00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:47,990 How are we going-- 956 00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:50,580 and people say, OK, well let's train them properly. 957 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:52,860 What kind of training are we going to do? 958 00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:54,660 It is racial profiling. 959 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:56,370 Make no mistake about it. 960 00:48:56,370 --> 00:48:59,600 We are about to legalize discrimination. 961 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,900 We're about to legalize racial profiling. 962 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:05,560 And I'm telling you, there will be resistance. 963 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,210 And you will help us resist. 964 00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:09,560 I know you will help us resist. 965 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,980 Because we cannot have this. 966 00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:15,830 And the youth of today, the young immigrant, the dreamers 967 00:49:15,830 --> 00:49:21,550 that they call them, are our real hope. 968 00:49:21,550 --> 00:49:26,180 They provide me with the hope that I don't have in other 969 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:28,780 sectors, that I've lost trust in. 970 00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:33,710 And immigrant-friendly national organizations that 971 00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:38,020 still sometimes make me cringe when they say things that are, 972 00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:41,380 well, not the criminals-- 973 00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:42,920 pitting us between the good 974 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,320 immigrant and the bad immigrant. 975 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,750 When are we going to stop that, the good human being 976 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:50,000 versus the bad human being kind of thing? 977 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,250 And that's what's going on. 978 00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:56,885 And the young people of today are the people that grew up. 979 00:49:56,885 --> 00:49:58,820 I know them. 980 00:49:58,820 --> 00:50:02,180 I grew up with their 17-year-old 981 00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:04,130 older brother deported. 982 00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:07,980 Can never come back because he was found smoking a marijuana 983 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:10,090 joint with another friend in a high school. 984 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:12,070 Deported for life. 985 00:50:12,070 --> 00:50:15,210 The kids who can't go see their grandmother just across 986 00:50:15,210 --> 00:50:16,870 in Nogales Sonora. 987 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:18,050 It's an everyday thing. 988 00:50:18,050 --> 00:50:19,780 They cannot join families. 989 00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:24,490 We have policies that are so anti-family in the area of 990 00:50:24,490 --> 00:50:29,990 immigration that we should be ashamed, the kind of brutality 991 00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:33,060 that we do to the family structure. 992 00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:35,060 And it's these young people-- they have not 993 00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:37,360 grown up with hate. 994 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,920 They've grown up with a real road and vision for justice. 995 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,130 They really have. 996 00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:47,810 Most of them don't even know that they're such leaders. 997 00:50:47,810 --> 00:50:53,870 But you give them a mic, and they never hurt another group. 998 00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:56,630 When 9/11 happened there were some immigrant groups that 999 00:50:56,630 --> 00:51:00,200 said, oh, yeah, we're not the Arabs. 1000 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,370 We're not the Muslims-- 1001 00:51:02,370 --> 00:51:04,810 hurting each other. 1002 00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:06,810 And the young people of today don't. 1003 00:51:06,810 --> 00:51:14,040 At the border we see the impact first-hand. 1004 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,480 We've been working with environmental groups for a 1005 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,430 very long time, and we have some very, very strong people 1006 00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:24,670 defending immigrant rights because they've been involved. 1007 00:51:24,670 --> 00:51:27,570 But look at the piece of legislation that was just 1008 00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:30,070 approved by the House. 1009 00:51:30,070 --> 00:51:33,600 If you would see the destruction of our fragile 1010 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,170 ecosystem there, not by immigrants who come through 1011 00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:39,700 and are made to drop their trash. 1012 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:43,740 What they see as trash and ugly, some of us look as-- 1013 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:46,260 we cry with the garbage that we see. 1014 00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:48,870 And it's an easy cleanup. 1015 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:52,440 But the kind of damage that's done by the Border Patrol, you 1016 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,450 would not believe. 1017 00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:55,880 The Tohono O'odom against the wall have 1018 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,780 pictures of Camp Grip. 1019 00:51:57,780 --> 00:52:00,360 They have photographs that document they've been 1020 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,130 violating federal laws intended to protect our 1021 00:52:05,130 --> 00:52:06,100 environment. 1022 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,120 They don't care about flora and fauna. 1023 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,340 And they scare us into thinking we must use every 1024 00:52:12,340 --> 00:52:15,850 element to safeguard our borders. 1025 00:52:15,850 --> 00:52:19,341 And we have all this violence in Mexico. 1026 00:52:19,341 --> 00:52:22,540 Why are we having the violence in Mexico? 1027 00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:26,840 It's because we love drugs. 1028 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,160 In this country we consume more drugs than anybody else. 1029 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,300 We love our drugs. 1030 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:37,790 We have issues with drugs. 1031 00:52:37,790 --> 00:52:40,050 We have medical issues. 1032 00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:41,300 It's a medical issue. 1033 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,300 It's an education, medical issue. 1034 00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:48,440 It certainly isn't just a law enforcement issue. 1035 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,780 And what have we done? 1036 00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:51,990 We have criminalized it just like we've 1037 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:52,880 criminalized people. 1038 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,640 We've criminalized our addictions. 1039 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,570 We're addicted to cheap labor, and we're 1040 00:52:56,570 --> 00:52:57,680 addicted to cheap drugs. 1041 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,100 Now, the drug war, how many billions have we spent? 1042 00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,460 Have we even made a dent? 1043 00:53:03,460 --> 00:53:04,200 Nothing. 1044 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,770 We have more drugs, cheaper drugs, and purer drugs. 1045 00:53:07,770 --> 00:53:11,970 And now we have taken our war on drugs into Mexico, and it's 1046 00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:15,680 cost over 60,000 lives in Mexico. 1047 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,420 Javier Sicilia will come through beginning August the 1048 00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:20,840 12th throughout the country with his caravan-- 1049 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,270 the poet who lost his son to this drug violence, an 1050 00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:28,090 innocent bystander who lost his life. 1051 00:53:28,090 --> 00:53:30,270 He was a Pulitzer Prize poet. 1052 00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:32,550 And he said, this world deserves no 1053 00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:33,680 more words, or something. 1054 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,130 He issued a beautiful poem. 1055 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:39,600 And he's done two caravans in Mexico and one that's coming 1056 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,460 through in the United States. 1057 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:47,590 We are going to also see an influx of migrants fleeing the 1058 00:53:47,590 --> 00:53:50,000 violence in Mexico. 1059 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,480 Are we in a national security threat state? 1060 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,330 No. 1061 00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:57,520 But we've created Mexico to be in a situation where they are 1062 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,750 facing a national security threat. 1063 00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:04,810 And so when we talk about the border and you go back to your 1064 00:54:04,810 --> 00:54:10,010 communities, I really urge you to try to give them a picture 1065 00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:12,730 of what border security measures look like. 1066 00:54:12,730 --> 00:54:14,475 Because it's their money being spent. 1067 00:54:14,475 --> 00:54:16,160 It's my money being spent. 1068 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,120 It's your money being spent. 1069 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,100 And is there any security that is resulting from 1070 00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,000 any of these policies? 1071 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,720 I submit to you it is not. 1072 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,390 We are growing an apparatus out of control. 1073 00:54:31,390 --> 00:54:34,350 And it's not just a call for legalization. 1074 00:54:34,350 --> 00:54:37,020 People say to me, if we just got all legalized. 1075 00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:45,150 Well, African American youth are citizens and yet are being 1076 00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:46,422 trampled upon. 1077 00:54:46,422 --> 00:54:48,910 Is it really papers? 1078 00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:54,020 Carlos Lamadrid, a young Chicano was killed in Douglas 1079 00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:55,440 by a Border Patrol agent. 1080 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,220 Shot three times in the back. 1081 00:54:57,220 --> 00:55:00,790 They refuse to give us any answers yet. 1082 00:55:00,790 --> 00:55:05,190 Bennett Patricio, a Tohono O'odom young man that was run 1083 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:09,780 over by Border Patrol agents under some terrible conditions 1084 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:12,180 and situations-- 1085 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:14,160 is that really what we want? 1086 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,650 Yes, an immigrant will say, yes I want a paper, but why? 1087 00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:22,420 Our number one demand, whether we're immigrant or not, brown 1088 00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:26,750 or white, is we want to be left alone from unreasonable 1089 00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:28,800 searches and seizures, because we are 1090 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,430 becoming a police state. 1091 00:55:30,430 --> 00:55:33,000 And with technology and the increase, we are 1092 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,630 all subject to it. 1093 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:39,010 You will not have a reprieve from these measures. 1094 00:55:39,010 --> 00:55:43,835 Immigrants are simply utilized to normalize this violation. 1095 00:55:43,835 --> 00:55:46,320 Oh, I don't care, I'm not an illegal alien. 1096 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,660 We only have one Constitution, and it protects all of us. 1097 00:55:49,660 --> 00:55:51,000 We don't have a Constitution for 1098 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,160 immigrants and one for citizens. 1099 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,220 It's for all of us. 1100 00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:58,840 And so we have to keep that in mind, that if we think of the 1101 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,826 people dying at the border with the billions being spent, 1102 00:56:03,826 --> 00:56:08,900 but the love of their families to compel them to cross this 1103 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:13,850 hostile border, if we got into their state of mind and that 1104 00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:20,110 kind of humanity, then I think we will reach a just United 1105 00:56:20,110 --> 00:56:21,050 States and a just world. 1106 00:56:21,050 --> 00:56:22,680 And I'm out of time. 1107 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,520 Thank you very much. 1108 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,130 I really, really appreciate you. 1109 00:56:25,130 --> 00:56:30,530 [APPLAUSE] 1110 00:56:30,530 --> 00:56:48,830 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1111 00:56:48,830 --> 00:56:56,072