1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,730 2 00:00:07,730 --> 00:00:09,380 Jim Key: Yesterday, you voted to place 3 00:00:09,380 --> 00:00:12,790 three actions of immediate witness on today's agenda. 4 00:00:12,790 --> 00:00:16,610 Today we will take up each of the three items. 5 00:00:16,610 --> 00:00:18,930 According to the rules we adopted on Wednesday, 6 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:23,230 we will have up to 20 minutes of debate for each AIW. 7 00:00:23,230 --> 00:00:24,800 The mini assembly to offer amendments 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,030 was held yesterday morning, so let 9 00:00:27,030 --> 00:00:36,670 me once again turn to Susan Goekler. 10 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:38,170 Susan Goekler: Thank you. 11 00:00:38,170 --> 00:00:41,300 On behalf of the Commission on Social Witness, 12 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:46,280 I make a motion to adopt proposed action 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,560 of immediate witness A, entitled Support the, 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,520 quote, "Pray for Relief," unquote Faith 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,050 Summit on Stopping Deportations, as revised. 16 00:00:58,050 --> 00:01:06,520 And you will find it in a copy of your pink handout. 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,170 Jim Key: Thank you. 18 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:11,190 Remind you that before allowing any amendments, 19 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:14,570 we'll have at least 12 minutes of time 20 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:17,380 to debate before we are open for amendments 21 00:01:17,380 --> 00:01:20,230 to this particular action. 22 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:24,010 I recognize the delegate at the pro microphone. 23 00:01:24,010 --> 00:01:25,890 Wendy Von Zirpolo: Thank you, Moderator Key. 24 00:01:25,890 --> 00:01:28,690 I'm Wendy von Zirpolo, proud to serve our congregation 25 00:01:28,690 --> 00:01:30,830 in Marblehead, Massachusetts. 26 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:33,400 I'm further proud to be part of a faith that 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,620 takes showing up seriously. 28 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:41,190 I'm aware of how easy it is to do one of two things-- 29 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:44,050 participate in a large action and consider 30 00:01:44,050 --> 00:01:48,000 our contribution complete, or determine that nothing can 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,490 be done because the opposition is so strong, so 32 00:01:51,490 --> 00:01:54,260 powerful, and so well-funded. 33 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:56,990 I have prayed and prayed still that this is not 34 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:59,660 who we are and stand proud today because here we 35 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:05,100 are talking about immigration once again and poised to act. 36 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:08,520 Last night at the Ware Lecture, Sister Simone Campbell 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,420 called upon us to walk toward trouble. 38 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:17,590 When minor children are being warehoused and talked about as 39 00:02:17,590 --> 00:02:21,240 if they were things or animals, trouble. 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,410 When people who are black and brown, citizen or not, 41 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:27,980 are routinely detained at our borders for hours, 42 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:30,860 the borders of their lives, communications, and bodies 43 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:32,870 violated, trouble. 44 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:37,090 When children live in fear of a knock on the door 45 00:02:37,090 --> 00:02:39,920 or the door being torn entirely from its hinges, 46 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:43,020 meaning another parent taken, trouble. 47 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:46,820 Fellow delegates, here and online, please, please 48 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:50,190 vote in affirmation of this action of immediate witness. 49 00:02:50,190 --> 00:02:53,500 It provides a way for each of us to act, come join us 50 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:56,520 at the summit or support the summit by raising awareness 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,940 in your congregation and communities, 52 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:01,650 or by writing, calling, and visiting reps. 53 00:03:01,650 --> 00:03:03,950 I believe Sister Simone mentioned 54 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:07,620 even putting Speaker Boehner on speed dial. 55 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:12,860 Do one thing, or do it all, but start by voting for this AIW. 56 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:13,620 Thank you. 57 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:19,220 Jim Key: Thank you. 58 00:03:19,220 --> 00:03:22,230 I can't help but notice there's nobody at the con microphone. 59 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:24,550 Let me check with Tom, see if we have any amendments. 60 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:25,930 We do not have any amendments. 61 00:03:25,930 --> 00:03:28,010 It looks like we're ready to vote. 62 00:03:28,010 --> 00:03:29,380 Am I reading the-- 63 00:03:29,380 --> 00:03:30,430 Tom: We do. 64 00:03:30,430 --> 00:03:36,880 Jim Key: Do we have an amendment? 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,370 Melissa Carvill-ziemer: Mister Moderator-- 66 00:03:40,370 --> 00:04:00,120 Jim Key: One moment. 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,370 Does someone wish to bring an unincorporated amendment 68 00:04:02,370 --> 00:04:04,320 to the floor? 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,330 Melissa Carvill-ziemer: Yes, Mister-- I'm still not on. 70 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:09,380 Jim Key: I recognize the delegate 71 00:04:09,380 --> 00:04:11,062 at the amendment microphone. 72 00:04:11,062 --> 00:04:13,520 Melissa Carvill-ziemer: My name is Melissa Carville-Ziemer. 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,540 I'm the minister of the Unitarian Universalist 74 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:17,240 Church of Kent in Ohio. 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,270 I'd like to move to incorporate unincorporated amendment A. 76 00:04:22,270 --> 00:04:24,480 Jim Key: Do we have a second? 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,096 We do. 78 00:04:26,096 --> 00:04:27,470 Do we have the language up there? 79 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:31,636 Can everybody see it? 80 00:04:31,636 --> 00:04:38,556 Does anybody wish to speak against that language? 81 00:04:38,556 --> 00:04:41,570 Are we ready to vote on accepting that amendment? 82 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:45,040 Has everybody had time to read it? 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,770 Is that a no? 84 00:04:45,770 --> 00:05:15,130 I'll give you a moment. 85 00:05:15,130 --> 00:05:19,390 Let me read it for you so we all know the amended language they 86 00:05:19,390 --> 00:05:22,150 we're voting for. 87 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:25,730 Line 30, delete "seek out ways" and insert 88 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:29,490 "to promote education within their congregations 89 00:05:29,490 --> 00:05:33,210 and communities by using resources 90 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:37,950 provided by organizations including NDLON," 91 00:05:37,950 --> 00:05:41,090 and it shows the website, "We Belong Together," 92 00:05:41,090 --> 00:05:44,780 and it shows the website, "and Not One More Deportation," 93 00:05:44,780 --> 00:05:45,900 with the website. 94 00:05:45,900 --> 00:05:48,640 And the CSW reasoning-- well, you can read that. 95 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Education is only one of many ways 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,170 people can respond to the crisis. 97 00:05:53,170 --> 00:05:54,820 So how do we feel about this amendment? 98 00:05:54,820 --> 00:05:58,640 Or is there anybody who wants to speak against it? 99 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,220 Are you ready to vote on this amendment? 100 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:04,570 All those in favor of accepting this amendment, 101 00:06:04,570 --> 00:06:07,040 raise your cards. 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,550 Down. 103 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:10,900 Opposed to this amendment? 104 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:12,450 The amendment clearly carries. 105 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:16,736 So we have an amended AIW. 106 00:06:16,736 --> 00:06:20,070 Do we have other amendments? 107 00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:22,750 No. 108 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:28,950 So now we return to voting for the amended ASW. 109 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:32,400 So all those in favor of this amended ASW, 110 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,750 please raise your cards. 111 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:37,020 Those opposed. 112 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:40,280 The amended ASW clearly passes. 113 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,720 Thank you. 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:51,320 [APPLAUSE] 115 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,936 Susan Goekler: On behalf of the Commission on Social Witness, 116 00:06:54,936 --> 00:07:00,640 I make a motion to adopt proposed AIW C, entitled 117 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,170 Affirming Congregation Commitment to Gun Violence 118 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:11,380 Prevention, as revised. 119 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:12,170 Jim Key: OK. 120 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:16,890 Do we have anybody who wishes to speak pro or con to that? 121 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:19,780 Is there anybody in the offsite queue? 122 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:23,206 Am I reading you right that you're ready to vote that one? 123 00:07:23,206 --> 00:07:26,860 There's somebody at the amendment mic. 124 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:30,156 Are you moving to include an unincorporated amendment? 125 00:07:30,156 --> 00:07:31,530 David Keppel: Yes, Moderator Key. 126 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:32,820 I am. 127 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:34,900 My name is David Keppel. 128 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:38,400 And I'm with Unitarian Universalist Church 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,190 of Bloomington, Indiana. 130 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:45,900 First of all, I'm sorry no one was here 131 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:49,320 to speak for the basic proposal, which 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,060 is superb and very important. 133 00:07:52,060 --> 00:07:54,730 But I think it's very important also 134 00:07:54,730 --> 00:07:58,180 that an Action of Immediate Witness 135 00:07:58,180 --> 00:08:03,400 helps our congregation with concrete ways to take action. 136 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,730 And the purpose of this unincorporated amendment 137 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:10,350 is to suggest things that we might do, 138 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:14,820 both policies we might advocate, such as gun safety, background 139 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:19,195 checks, ban on assault weapons, and ways 140 00:08:19,195 --> 00:08:24,360 we might work towards that, such as working with public health 141 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,210 professionals, et cetera. 142 00:08:26,210 --> 00:08:30,670 So I move this unincorporated amendment 143 00:08:30,670 --> 00:08:34,549 in the spirit of making this very worthy Action of Immediate 144 00:08:34,549 --> 00:08:38,240 Witness more helpful to congregations 145 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,341 in their implementation of it. 146 00:08:40,341 --> 00:08:40,840 Thank you. 147 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,679 Jim Key: Is there a second to that? 148 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,970 Yes, OK. 149 00:08:44,970 --> 00:08:47,570 Before we vote, I have a question at the procedure mic. 150 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:48,850 Jim Krawarik-graham: Moderator Key, my name is Jim-- 151 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:49,641 Jim Key: Excuse me. 152 00:08:49,641 --> 00:08:51,040 You're not quite on yet. 153 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,464 Try again. 154 00:08:52,464 --> 00:08:54,130 Jim Krawarik-graham: Jim Krawarik-Graham 155 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:55,838 from the Church of the Larger Fellowship. 156 00:08:55,838 --> 00:08:58,060 I would just like, for the benefit of the delegates, 157 00:08:58,060 --> 00:09:00,150 for the gentleman at the amendment microphone 158 00:09:00,150 --> 00:09:04,210 to please say which unincorporated amendment he 159 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:04,840 is moving. 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,290 David Keppel: Indeed. 161 00:09:06,290 --> 00:09:08,400 Excuse me, an excellent point. 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,270 The first one listed on your purple sheet, line 43. 163 00:09:13,270 --> 00:09:16,870 "Be it further resolved that the 2014 General 164 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:20,370 Assembly encourages member congregations to take 165 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:26,350 action, such as-- one, encourage the CDC to study and publish 166 00:09:26,350 --> 00:09:31,630 data on gun violence; two, work for gun safety, background 167 00:09:31,630 --> 00:09:35,960 checks, and a ban on assault weapons on a national, state, 168 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,210 and municipal level; three, reach out 169 00:09:39,210 --> 00:09:43,180 and partner with interface groups and community activists; 170 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:47,240 four, dialogue with police, local public health 171 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,520 professionals, elected officials, and candidates 172 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:56,830 for office; and five, speak out in local forums, town meetings, 173 00:09:56,830 --> 00:09:59,530 and media." 174 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:03,100 Jim Key: Are we ready to vote on that amendment? 175 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:04,480 David Keppel: I'm informed I have 176 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,400 to say this is unincorporated amendment A. 177 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,320 Jim Key: Noted. 178 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,480 All those in favor of incorporating this amended CSW, 179 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,440 please raise your cards. 180 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,650 You can lower them. 181 00:10:18,650 --> 00:10:20,690 Opposed? 182 00:10:20,690 --> 00:10:21,240 All right. 183 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,020 So noted. 184 00:10:22,020 --> 00:10:24,100 The amendment is included in the motion 185 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:26,090 that you will now vote on on the CSA. 186 00:10:26,090 --> 00:10:28,930 Are we ready to vote on this CSW? 187 00:10:28,930 --> 00:10:32,590 All those in favor, raise your cards. 188 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:34,500 You can lower them now. 189 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:36,470 All those opposed? 190 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:37,740 CSW passes. 191 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:38,584 Thank you. 192 00:10:38,584 --> 00:10:42,850 [APPLAUSE] 193 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:45,910 Jim Key: AIW, excuse me. 194 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:48,400 I had a little trouble with language 195 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,780 in the first and second grade. 196 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:58,800 Susan? 197 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Susan Goekler: On behalf of the Commission on Social Witness-- 198 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,690 which is CSW-- 199 00:11:04,690 --> 00:11:06,340 Jim Key: Thank you. 200 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:13,530 Susan Goekler: --I move to adopt proposed AIW F, entitled 201 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:18,830 UUA Support for Uganda New Underground Railroad 202 00:11:18,830 --> 00:11:28,550 to safely extract LGBTQ people from persecution in Uganda. 203 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:30,040 Jim Key: Thank you, Susan. 204 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,227 I recognize the delegate at the pro microphone. 205 00:11:33,227 --> 00:11:34,310 Kay Wilkins: Good morning. 206 00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:36,350 My name is Kay Wilkins. 207 00:11:36,350 --> 00:11:40,060 I'm a proud member of UU Ellsworth, 208 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:44,470 Maine, a mighty congregation. 209 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:49,190 My friend Elizabeth Sprague is a Quaker. 210 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:52,160 Right before I came to General Assembly, 211 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,970 she told me about the horrible situation of LGBT people 212 00:11:57,970 --> 00:12:01,620 in Uganda but shared the hopeful news 213 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:05,740 that courageous Quakers have once again stepped forward, 214 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:08,980 starting what they know so well to do, 215 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:14,080 an underground railroad to take people out of harm's way. 216 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,810 They are moving LGBT people to safehouses and then 217 00:12:17,810 --> 00:12:21,630 to Kenya, where there is a strong Quaker presence, 218 00:12:21,630 --> 00:12:24,550 and then to receiving countries in Europe, where 219 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:26,920 they have been offered asylum. 220 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,640 As of mid-June, about 100 people have been moved to safety. 221 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,570 Currently, there is a waiting list 222 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:36,410 of 90 people, including 17 hiding 223 00:12:36,410 --> 00:12:39,790 in a garage in deplorable conditions. 224 00:12:39,790 --> 00:12:43,750 The situation grows worse daily. 225 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:47,200 Granted, the New Underground Railroad 226 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,660 does not solve the larger problems of extreme homophobia 227 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:54,950 in Uganda and the contribution to the hatred 228 00:12:54,950 --> 00:12:57,750 made by American evangelicals. 229 00:12:57,750 --> 00:13:01,920 However, can we set aside those larger issues 230 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,150 and join quickly in the effort to save lives? 231 00:13:06,150 --> 00:13:10,250 I encourage everyone here to stand on the side of love 232 00:13:10,250 --> 00:13:14,340 with the Quakers and join the Presbyterians who 233 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:18,100 just met in their General Assembly and on June 17 234 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:21,130 took action similar to this proposal. 235 00:13:21,130 --> 00:13:24,070 Both as individuals and as congregations, 236 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:28,310 I urge you to support the actions described in this AIW-- 237 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:31,280 most importantly to provide financial assistance 238 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,810 to the railroad. 239 00:13:32,810 --> 00:13:35,370 Jim Key: Thank you. 240 00:13:35,370 --> 00:13:37,629 I recognize the delegate at the procedure microphone. 241 00:13:37,629 --> 00:13:39,170 Jan Taddeo: Thank you, Moderator Key. 242 00:13:39,170 --> 00:13:40,900 My name it Jan Taddeo. 243 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:43,480 It is my privilege to serve our Unitarian Universalist 244 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,430 congregation of Gwinnett in Lawrenceville, Georgia. 245 00:13:46,430 --> 00:13:50,550 I am asking if you might give us information 246 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:53,930 about how our offsite delegates are voting. 247 00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:55,480 Jim Key: I do not have the data. 248 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,380 I'm trying to find that as we speak. 249 00:13:58,380 --> 00:13:59,895 They voted overwhelmingly in favor. 250 00:13:59,895 --> 00:14:01,520 But I can't give you the exact numbers. 251 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,855 But I will try to find out. 252 00:14:02,855 --> 00:14:03,520 Jan Taddeo: It would be helpful to just 253 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,270 be reminded that they're there and voting. 254 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:06,686 Jim Key: Absolutely, in fact, I've 255 00:14:06,686 --> 00:14:08,284 got somebody in the procedures mic. 256 00:14:08,284 --> 00:14:09,200 Jan Taddeo: Thank you. 257 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Jim Key: Thank you. 258 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,820 The delegate recognizes the offsite delegate 259 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:18,772 at the procedure mic. 260 00:14:18,772 --> 00:14:26,549 Sally Gellert: [INAUDIBLE]. 261 00:14:26,549 --> 00:14:28,090 Jim Key: Let me interrupt you and see 262 00:14:28,090 --> 00:14:31,220 if we can correct our speaker problem here in the hall, 263 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:32,710 because you're breaking up. 264 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:33,880 Hold on just a moment. 265 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Can we help? 266 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,015 Let's try it again, Sally. 267 00:14:39,015 --> 00:14:40,955 Sally Gellert: Yes, hi. 268 00:14:40,955 --> 00:14:45,320 I thank the onsite delegates for recognizing us. 269 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,984 I wondered if we had time for discussion 270 00:14:47,984 --> 00:14:49,672 of any of these amendments. 271 00:14:49,672 --> 00:14:54,318 Our tech guys have been having trouble getting our votes up 272 00:14:54,318 --> 00:14:56,910 in time because you're going through these so fast, 273 00:14:56,910 --> 00:15:00,380 and I don't know whether other folks on the floor 274 00:15:00,380 --> 00:15:03,369 would like to speak to some of these. 275 00:15:03,369 --> 00:15:04,160 Jim Key: Thank you. 276 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,660 Sally Gellert: [INAUDIBLE]. 277 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:05,219 Thank you. 278 00:15:05,219 --> 00:15:06,010 Jim Key: Thank you. 279 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:07,093 You're absolutely correct. 280 00:15:07,093 --> 00:15:10,390 We're moving way too fast for the offsite delegates. 281 00:15:10,390 --> 00:15:14,210 And I'll try to be more attentive to that. 282 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:16,840 We do not have anybody at the con mic. 283 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,470 We have an unincorporated amendment 284 00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:21,830 that has been proposed and seconded. 285 00:15:21,830 --> 00:15:26,420 Are we ready to vote on that? 286 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:33,750 No, no, no, the crowd-- huh? 287 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:35,150 Ah, OK. 288 00:15:35,150 --> 00:15:40,600 So are there any amendments for this AIW? 289 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,160 A as in Able, I as in India, W as in Work. 290 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,120 No? 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,910 Are we ready to vote? 292 00:15:48,910 --> 00:16:08,600 Coming forward. 293 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,410 Dave Reno: My question is-- 294 00:16:13,410 --> 00:16:15,594 Jim Key: While we're waiting for that, let me-- 295 00:16:15,594 --> 00:16:17,552 Dave Reno: This is an unincorporated amendment. 296 00:16:17,552 --> 00:16:24,350 Do we say this-- OK, I have a question. 297 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:25,610 Jim Key: Wait a minute. 298 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:28,190 I recognize the delegate at the procedure microphone. 299 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:30,350 Dave Reno: Dave Reno from First Church Now. 300 00:16:30,350 --> 00:16:32,610 Did I understand that we did or did not 301 00:16:32,610 --> 00:16:35,100 have a proposed unincorporated amendment? 302 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:37,830 Because there are two unincorporated amendments 303 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:38,430 at the bottom. 304 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:40,760 Did you say we do not or we did? 305 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Jim Key: We are about to hear whether we do. 306 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Dave Reno: Oh, OK. 307 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,376 Thank you. 308 00:16:45,376 --> 00:16:46,750 Jim Key: I recognize the delegate 309 00:16:46,750 --> 00:16:48,280 at the amendment microphone. 310 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Jackie Trimble Shapiro: Good morning. 311 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,230 I'm Jackie Trimble Shapiro from the Unitarian 312 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:53,370 Society of Hamden. 313 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:55,840 And I'm not quite sure of this language. 314 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,010 But I would like to make a motion that we accept 315 00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:06,400 unincorporated amendment B, which 316 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:13,535 deletes lines 48 and 49 and then the concluding line would read, 317 00:17:13,535 --> 00:17:17,859 "Therefore be it resolved that the 2014 General Assembly 318 00:17:17,859 --> 00:17:21,920 encourages us to join with the Quakers in this movement." 319 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,599 I think that says everything it needs, and as it states, 320 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,750 this concluding statement is consistent with the 2014 321 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:59,630 General Assembly from which this AIW comes. 322 00:17:59,630 --> 00:18:00,880 Jim Key: Is everybody with us? 323 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:07,906 It's on line 48 and 49 on page six. 324 00:18:07,906 --> 00:18:09,880 Can you see it up there? 325 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,690 The proposal is to delete those two lines, starting with "what" 326 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:16,110 and ending with "railroad." 327 00:18:16,110 --> 00:18:18,860 Is there a second to that amendment? 328 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:19,710 Thank you. 329 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:24,990 We're ready to vote on the amendment. 330 00:18:24,990 --> 00:18:28,360 So let me give the offsite delegates some time to vote. 331 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,670 All those in favor-- oh, we have a con statement. 332 00:18:31,670 --> 00:18:32,760 Excuse me. 333 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Jim Krawarik-graham: Hi. 334 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,218 Jim Krawarik-Graham from the Church 335 00:18:35,218 --> 00:18:37,440 of the Larger Fellowship. 336 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,180 Contrary to what the person at the amendment mic said, 337 00:18:41,180 --> 00:18:45,680 that would remove the grounding in what we're doing here 338 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,590 at General Assembly if we deleted those two lines. 339 00:18:48,590 --> 00:18:51,000 This General Assembly has been about reaching out 340 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,840 in love in all the ways that we can, 341 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,800 and this Action of Immediate Witness does exactly that. 342 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,660 I would encourage us to keep those two lines in. 343 00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:03,070 I think they add value and clarity of purpose 344 00:19:03,070 --> 00:19:06,630 around what this Action of Immediate Witness involves. 345 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:08,420 Jim Key: Thank you. 346 00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:11,064 I recognize the delegate at the procedure microphone. 347 00:19:11,064 --> 00:19:12,980 Dave Reno: OK, David Reno, First Church again. 348 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:14,330 I was a little confused. 349 00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:19,460 I would like-- since unincorporated amendment B has 350 00:19:19,460 --> 00:19:22,430 been included, I would like unincorporated amendment A 351 00:19:22,430 --> 00:19:24,030 included. 352 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:26,230 You'll have to come over to the amendment microphone 353 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:29,280 and make that request to bring that onto the floor for debate. 354 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,600 Thank you. 355 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,890 So are we now ready to vote to incorporate 356 00:19:34,890 --> 00:19:37,490 this amendment or not? 357 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:41,990 All those in favor of accepting the unincorporated amendment, 358 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:43,695 which is deleting two lines-- are 359 00:19:43,695 --> 00:19:49,110 we understanding this-- raise your card in favor aye. 360 00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:51,504 Let's see what the offsite delegates are doing. 361 00:19:51,504 --> 00:19:52,670 We'll wait for them to vote. 362 00:19:52,670 --> 00:19:59,410 You can lower your cards here in the house. 363 00:19:59,410 --> 00:20:00,620 We need some music. 364 00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:06,130 You can lower your cards. 365 00:20:06,130 --> 00:20:06,630 I know. 366 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:11,950 All those opposed? 367 00:20:11,950 --> 00:20:13,980 The motion to amend is clearly defeated. 368 00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,790 Thank you. 369 00:20:15,790 --> 00:20:16,290 All right. 370 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:17,373 We have another amendment. 371 00:20:17,373 --> 00:20:20,796 Dave Reno: I would like to include-- I would like to-- 372 00:20:20,796 --> 00:20:22,504 Jim Key: I recognize the delegate 373 00:20:22,504 --> 00:20:23,670 at the amendment microphone. 374 00:20:23,670 --> 00:20:24,410 Dave Reno: OK. 375 00:20:24,410 --> 00:20:25,400 I'm still David Reno. 376 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,440 I'm still from First Church. 377 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,470 And I would like unincorporated amendment A 378 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:35,970 to be included to give some perspective as to history, 379 00:20:35,970 --> 00:20:39,830 since we sometimes build monuments to people 380 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:42,290 and forget exactly what they did. 381 00:20:42,290 --> 00:20:45,930 And let us remember the past is not past. 382 00:20:45,930 --> 00:20:47,954 It is also present. 383 00:20:47,954 --> 00:20:50,120 Jim Key: Let me read that to you, those in the hall, 384 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,703 but you can also see it on the screen. 385 00:20:51,703 --> 00:20:53,420 It's on the bottom of page six. 386 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,570 Unincorporated amendment A, line 47, 387 00:20:55,570 --> 00:20:58,510 insert, "A century ago, Harriet Tubman 388 00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:00,610 ran an Underground Railroad. 389 00:21:00,610 --> 00:21:04,100 Her passengers gave valuable intelligence to the Union Army. 390 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,870 Harriet Tubman was given a pension for life of $20 391 00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:10,020 a year in 1865 dollars. 392 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:16,600 If each UU contributed $20 each, she would be honored." 393 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,660 So do we have a second to accept that amendment? 394 00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:24,960 I hear a second. 395 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,370 Yes. 396 00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:27,980 Got the card. 397 00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:29,350 OK. 398 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:32,940 I see nobody at the con microphone. 399 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:36,009 I recognize the delegate at the con microphone. 400 00:21:36,009 --> 00:21:37,800 Jim Krawarik-graham: Moderator Key, my name 401 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,390 is again Jim Krawarik-Graham from the Church of the Larger 402 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:41,510 Fellowship. 403 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:45,400 I am standing in opposition to adding these lines 404 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,470 to this Action of Immediate Witness. 405 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:51,060 I think A, it distracts from what 406 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:54,650 this Action of Immediate Witness is intended to accomplish. 407 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:58,610 B, although I have great regard for Harriet Tubman, 408 00:21:58,610 --> 00:22:03,060 I think that this is in a way tokenizing. 409 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:06,520 And I think it, at the end of the day, 410 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,940 distracts completely from what the AIW is 411 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:10,320 intended to accomplish. 412 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,700 Jim Key: Thank you. 413 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:17,009 [APPLAUSE] 414 00:22:17,009 --> 00:22:18,550 Jim Key: I think we're ready to vote. 415 00:22:18,550 --> 00:22:19,390 Are we not? 416 00:22:19,390 --> 00:22:22,124 Since we have nobody at the pro microphone. 417 00:22:22,124 --> 00:22:24,540 Do we have somebody at the procedure microphone attempting 418 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:25,220 to get there? 419 00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:31,650 Hold one moment. 420 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:33,860 I recognize the delegate at the procedure mic. 421 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:37,690 Bill Curtis: I am Bill Curtis from the Unitarian Universalist 422 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:41,580 Church of Annapolis, Maryland, which 423 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:45,350 of course is in Annapolis, Maryland. 424 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:48,680 Well, that's what they always ask-- where is it-- afterwards. 425 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:55,790 My question is, I would like to honor Harriet Tubman. 426 00:22:55,790 --> 00:22:57,950 But I believe she's dead. 427 00:22:57,950 --> 00:23:01,390 And what does the $20 that I would contribute go to 428 00:23:01,390 --> 00:23:03,257 is what I want to know. 429 00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:04,840 Jim Key: You'd have to figure that out 430 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,465 when you got back to your congregations 431 00:23:06,465 --> 00:23:07,810 in response to this. 432 00:23:07,810 --> 00:23:10,480 The actual question of procedure is out of order. 433 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,360 If you want to vote against it, you should be in the con line. 434 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,235 Bill Curtis: I don't want to vote against it. 435 00:23:15,235 --> 00:23:16,930 I just want to know what it is. 436 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:19,150 Jim Key: I don't think we can answer that today. 437 00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:20,920 Bill Curtis: Nobody knows where my money is going to go? 438 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,260 That's kind of silly, isn't it, if I'm going to give money-- 439 00:23:23,260 --> 00:23:24,260 Jim Key: Thank you, sir. 440 00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:27,685 Thank you, sir. 441 00:23:27,685 --> 00:23:31,100 Thank you. 442 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:38,510 Are we ready to vote on the amended AIW? 443 00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:40,582 No. 444 00:23:40,582 --> 00:23:41,290 On the amendment. 445 00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:42,850 On the amendment, excuse me. 446 00:23:42,850 --> 00:23:54,740 Are we ready to vote on the proposed amendment to AIW A? 447 00:23:54,740 --> 00:23:57,810 I see nobody that wants to speak at the pro or the con, 448 00:23:57,810 --> 00:24:05,710 so all those who are voting for amending it, raise your cards. 449 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:09,210 Opposed. 450 00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:10,550 It clearly carries. 451 00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:18,790 Let me see how our offsite delegates are voting. 452 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:20,380 The negative defeats the amendment. 453 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:23,640 I'm tongue tied this morning. 454 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,240 So now are you ready to vote on the AIW, 455 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,920 or do we have some other amendment, 456 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,470 people in the queue offsite? 457 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:33,420 No more amendments. 458 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:39,020 OK, are we ready to vote on this AIW? 459 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:42,230 All those in favor, raise those cards. 460 00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:44,780 All those opposed. 461 00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:47,480 We clearly accept that AIW. 462 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,660 Thank you very much. 463 00:24:49,660 --> 00:24:54,714